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Canada says "nein!" to missile defense

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darscot

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I forgot North Korea is the new Iraq set to attempt to destroy the US with WMD. Watch out for Iran and the massive list of coutnries that are capable of building or already have Nukes. What's next all of us up here in Canada. We have the technology and natural resources to build WMD. How will you defend yourselves from us. Maybe build a big wall or trench along the 49th just in case. Aren't you guys are doing just that with Mexico?

LOL, is there ever a moment were you dont think people are out to get you?
 

NLB2

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darscot said:
I forgot North Korea is the new Iraq set to attempt to destroy the US with WMD. Watch out for Iran and the massive list of coutnries that are capable of building or already have Nukes. What's next all of us up here in Canada. We have the technology and natural resources to build WMD. How will you defend yourselves from us. Maybe build a big wall or trench along the 49th just in case. Aren't you guys are doing just that with Mexico?

LOL, is there ever a moment were you dont think people are out to get you?
It must be nice to wallow in mediocrity :p. Nobody really gives a shit about Mexicans except for dumbasses. Mexicans do work for under minimum because its better than what they'd get in Mexico. All of us nonidiots love Mexican labor.
 

Memles

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Socreges said:
Did your brother decide to ignore the wink, too? The fact that it was obviously just a poke at Boogie? Good times, indeed!

He just caught a glimpse of it and got all indignant...I found it quite funny. My post was just as sarcastic, as I believe it was taken. Good times, indeed...indeed.
 
darscot said:
The thing that I find so laughable is even if they perfect the Missle Defense system so it guantees the US cannot be hit with a missle. What's stoping a someone from sending a nuke FedX? Or any of the million other ways to get a nuke on target. This makes about as much sense as wearing a bullet proof vest in a boxing ring.

I suppose we should also only use our seatbelts when accident does happen right?
 

Phoenix

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Anthropic said:
It should be noted that the current Russian missile defense system works by using nuclear-tipped interceptors. In order to use it, you have to use nuclear weapons over your own soil. The U.S. developed such a system in the late 1970s and the cost as well as the thought of detonating nuclear weapons over our own soil led to it's cancelation.

You're about a decade late. Russian ABMs stopped using nuclear tipped warheads in the late 90s beginning in 1998. Russian ABM-3s and 4s use a conventional high fragmentation warhead.
 

darscot

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Sokar said:
I suppose we should also only use our seatbelts when accident does happen right?

You totally missed my point. It's like wearing your seatbelt in a plane crash in the northern Atlantic. Were the seatbelt cost you a million dollars.
 

Phoenix

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darscot said:
The only defense from a nuke is peace and MAD. You can convince yourself all you want that this will save lifes but it is a waste of money. Spend a fraction of this on peace and the US would save ten times the lives.

Nice. What's the going rate on global peace these days and who does one write their check out to?
 

darscot

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I can't believe some many of you fail to see the obvious. This is a bullet proof window that opens from the outside.
 
NLB2 said:
Hey, if they weren't Mexican and working for under minimum wage, would they need less medical care?
Perhaps. Two reasons I have on hand:
1. Unhealthy diet. They oftentimes want meat, but they may only afford some of the cheaper cuts. Thus, we've seen households where the elders and the children eat extremely fatty cuts of meat. Sure the older ones work in the fields, but an unhealthy diet isn't going to help.
2. They are also less likely to seek Western preventive care because of the cultural barriers and the lack of health insurance. Thus, problems that could have been solved less expensively earlier end up being solved later. You also have the problem of people going to the ER for a cold because they know that they will get some kind of treatment either way. Not an efficient way of healthcare. Sure there are herbal medicine places and curanderas, but I'm not too sure about their efficacy.
 
Vibri said:
Everyone hates America, let them pay for their own defense. Why the hell should Canada care?

America has done some bad thigns but they have also helped many countries, why does everyone hate them? It pisses me off! IN ww2 we saved many countrys lifes
 

darscot

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BooM235689 said:
America has done some bad thigns but they have also helped many countries, why does everyone hate them? It pisses me off! IN ww2 we saved many countrys lifes

And yet another perfect example of why other countries hate the US. During WW2 the US sat home for years while men died fighting for what was right.
 

Loki

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NLB2 said:
Ok, 3700 km range. Glad I don't live in Hawaii :lol.

Cheap labor > extra medical costs. IMO, at least. I doubt there are any numbers.

Actually, there are numbers. A recent CIS (Center for Immigration Studies) report, seen here, concluded that illegal immigrants cost the US roughly $10 billion per year-- and this is after taking into account the "good" they do, such as providing "cheap labor."


Further, it concluded that "amnesty" is not the answer, as the costs incurred by society would actually increase to roughly $30 billion if amnesty were granted. From that same report:

If illegal aliens were given amnesty and began to pay taxes and use services like households headed by legal immigrants with the same education levels, the estimated annual net fiscal deficit would increase from $2,700 per household to nearly $7,700, for a total net cost of $29 billion.


Anyone interested can read the study proper for a discussion on its methodology. I don't really want to get involved in such a discussion, but I cannot stand it when people assert that illegal immigration is somehow "benign" (never mind that little "breaking the law" thing), or that somehow the benefits outweigh the costs. This is false. Entire states and sectors of our economy are in dire straits due to the burden that illegals place on the system. Anyone who champions illegal immigration is either a tool, or hasn't looked closely enough at both the ethical and financial realities of the situation. Period.
 

Phoenix

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darscot said:
And yet another perfect example of why other countries hate the US. During WW2 the US sat home for years while men died fighting for what was right.

Damned if you do fight, and damned if you don't fight. Guess that's why the adminstration could give a rats ass what people think.
 

Saturnman

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Phoenix said:
Damned if you do fight, and damned if you don't fight. Guess that's why the adminstration could give a rats ass what people think.

But they do. That's why Bush is in Europe right now. It's not to say "who needs you anyway?" It's to mend fences, find common points and beg a little for help.
 

darscot

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This really is a whole other topic for a whole other thread. But anyway, I think it's the idea that the US seem to be only concerned for there own interests. People can be being slaughtered and the US will stand by and watch. It's not untill it hits the US wallet or Americans die do they seem to care.
 

Phoenix

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Saturnman said:
But they do. That's why Bush is in Europe right now. It's not to say "who needs you anyway?" It's to mend fences, find common points and beg a little for help.

Yes, no, kinda. Yes we want to be liked and have a nice relationship with the rest of the world, but when push comes to show - they really don't care what you think.
 

Saturnman

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They can act like they don't care, but many of the things they do require the help of other countries.

America also finances propaganda radio/tv radio stations around the world, it's not just about overthrowing dictators (that they don't like), it's all about winning the hearts and minds of people abroad since it can mean support for policies requiring help from those same countries.
 
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