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[Divvy]

Hasn't the Globe always endorsed the Conservatives? Or am I remembering poorly?

 

[GG-Duo]

Not too surprising, NDP is popular in our age group.

Things like TFSA and incoming splitting also benefit young couples, especially those of us who are living in Vancouver or Toronto. So those who are more economically-minded prefer the Cons.

 

[BigJonsson]

Hasn't the Globe always endorsed the Conservatives? Or am I remembering poorly?

They endorsed Mulroney, Chretien, and Martin before

 

[matthewwhatever]

They endorsed Mulroney, Chretien, and Martin before

Though not exactly in the most glowing terms:

2004 – Paul Martin: Therefore, we urge a Liberal vote Monday — not because they’ve earned the right to re-election but because, at the very least, we can count on them to do little harm and, at best, the near-death experience might help the old Paul Martin find himself and lead Canada more confidently into the future.

2000 – Jean Chretien: Mr. Chrétien has to go. He has become a one-man band, loving power for its own sake (witness his premature election call), terrorizing backbench MPs who might seek an independent voice when confidence isn’t at stake, shrugging off the sloppy record-keeping and politically charged grants of Human Resources Development, dismissing the ethical problems of his intercession with the Federal Business Development Bank, and in general treating his position as lord of a fief rather than as a public trust.

Paul Wells just shared an email the former E-in-C of the Globe wrote to him, about the editorial he would've written:

Prime ministers do not have to be eminently likeable if they are sufficiently competent and inspiring. But to demonstrate qualities of meanness with a scent of pouting in the air makes the wheels on the luggage squeak. Who but the deeply petulant would forbid his entire parliamentary caucus from speaking to the former Progressive Conservative prime minister of Canada on ethereal grounds?

Indeed, who is allowed to speak to Canadian voters themselves in Stephen Harper’s caucus — you know, the voters who hired them? Empty chairs at public forums, gag orders on ministers of the crown, refusals to respond to media enquiries evince deep contempt for the democratic process at its most intensive phase.

 

[Stet]

The McCallion effiect!

So has anyone actually seen the email from Gagnier to Transcanada? Because...wow, I take back anything I even said about the optics being bad. It's a civics lesson. It's about as scandalous as a high school class that teaches you how government functions. Anyone saying it's evidence of "business interests" having a backdoor to the Liberal Party is, quite frankly, an idiot.

Yeah. Media reaction has been pathetic and uninformative.

 

[BigJonsson]

Is Mainstreet ever going to release their final poll?

 

[Walpurgis]

Lol at this Globe & Mail thing. How did that even happen? Is Globe & Mail owned by a CPC supporter who made him do it? The tone from the Facebook posts suggests that the writer thinks it's stupid too.

 

[Azih]

Yeah it's like the order come from on high to support the Cons and the editorial staff had to beg and plead to modify it to "Support the Cons but insist Harper resign".

 

[TheRealTalker]

Is Mainstreet ever going to release their final poll?

still waiting

 

[gutter_trash]

i have feeling we will be up all night until Tuesday morning with these polls tightening up.

 

[Zombie James]

The McCallion effiect!

So has anyone actually seen the email from Gagnier to Transcanada? Because...wow, I take back anything I even said about the optics being bad. It's a civics lesson. It's about as scandalous as a high school class that teaches you how government functions. Anyone saying it's evidence of "business interests" having a backdoor to the Liberal Party is, quite frankly, an idiot.

That's exactly why this story keeps getting buried on Reddit. It's a non-issue.

 

[mo60]

still waiting

They are releasing the poll in the next day or two.

 

[dragonfart28]

Is this legit?

Watch Conservative campaign workers take down NDP and Liberal signs

http://www.meettheharpergang.com/bl...ervative-campaign-workers-take-down-ndp-signs

 

[maharg]

Though not exactly in the most glowing terms:

These kinds of editorials are basically just endorsements of eternal one-party rule. They're not so much about endorsing a candidate as about endorsing a kind of undemocratic stability. It's very familiar as an Albertan, and disturbing to see gaining traction as a sentiment at the national level.

 

[Willectro]

Olivia Chow thinks if she's in enough elections, eventually she will get elected to do something. Doesn't seem to matter where or which level of government.

 

[jstripes]

Is this legit?

Watch Conservative campaign workers take down NDP and Liberal signs

http://www.meettheharpergang.com/bl...ervative-campaign-workers-take-down-ndp-signs

Is this really surprising?

Last election, some people in Toronto who had Liberal signs on their lawns had their tires slashed.

 

[gutter_trash]

Olivia Chow thinks if she's in enough elections, eventually she will get elected to do something. Doesn't seem to matter where or which level of government.

probably spend time talking about the need to have Daycare programs then vote against a budget that includes a Daycare program

 

[Popstar]

The McCallion effiect!

So has anyone actually seen the email from Gagnier to Transcanada? Because...wow, I take back anything I even said about the optics being bad. It's a civics lesson. It's about as scandalous as a high school class that teaches you how government functions. Anyone saying it's evidence of "business interests" having a backdoor to the Liberal Party is, quite frankly, an idiot.

Yeah I read it last night and had the exact same reaction.

It reads like a teacher's handout. "Remember we'll be having a short quiz about what happens when the incumbent loses on Thursday!"

 

[Firestorm]

https://twitter.com/TorontoRobFord/status/655076230157475840

Rob Ford Verified account
‏@TorontoRobFord
Monday I'm voting for fiscal responsibility, a strong economy, & a leader that will save Canadians 000's of dollars - @pmharper #elxn42

With endorsements like these who needs attack ads?

 

[Stet]

https://twitter.com/TorontoRobFord/status/655076230157475840With endorsements like these who needs attack ads?

Literally zeros of dollars!

 

[mo60]

i have feeling we will be up all night until Tuesday morning with these polls tightening up.

Unless the Liberals crush the Conservatives in Ontario we will up until tuesday morning. I don;t think they will take Quebec at this point because I think it will stay with the NDP while BC is a bit of an unknown since it could go either way, but it won;t give them a big boost if they barely win BC since it may be a 1-3 seat difference for all three parties at this point.

 

[Zombie James]

https://twitter.com/TorontoRobFord/status/655076230157475840With endorsements like these who needs attack ads?

I'd love to save zeros of dollars.

 

[TheRealTalker]

Zeros I say ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS

 

[Dr.Acula]

Paul Wells just shared an email the former E-in-C of the Globe wrote to him, about the editorial he would've written:

This best part of that piece is the preamble!

I am on a list of people who receive periodic emails from William Thorsell, who was the Globe and Mail’s editor-in-chief from 1989 to 2000 and the CEO of the Royal Ontario Museum for a decade after. William sends out occasional thoughts on events, design, urban life and other preoccupations.

Now that's a mailing list I'd subscribe to!

 

[TheRealTalker]

I wonder if this Ford endorsement was a panic plan by the CPC after Crosby ditched them

 

[Willectro]

https://twitter.com/TorontoRobFord/status/655076230157475840With endorsements like these who needs attack ads?

I gotta say, Harper's strategy (if you can call it that) to even be seen with the Fords is so crazy, it makes me wonder if the whole thing is a conspiracy to throw the election. He may gain 1 riding's support (Ford Nation) at the cost of the rest of Canada. If I was Harper, I would have stayed far away from the Ford bros and probably would just mock anything they said about the election. Maybe say something like "Doug will never be successful in politics" just to solidify my stance. Crazy.

 

[matthewwhatever]

Is Mainstreet ever going to release their final poll?

Saturday, according to their guy's Twitter.

We have an Angus Reid poll, though!

Their findings for age groups are the opposite of Ekos':

And just as a reminder, I don't think they were even asking about the possibility of a Liberal minority at the beginning of the campaign, yet here we are now:

 

[Zombie James]

I wonder if this Ford endorsement was a panic plan by the CPC after Crosby ditched them

Who else would Ford endorse, though? There's only one federal crazy party.

 

[gutter_trash]

Unless the Liberals crush the Conservatives in Ontario we will up until tuesday morning. I don;t think they will take Quebec at this point because I think it will stay with the NDP while BC is a bit of an unknown since it could go either way, but it won;t give them a big boost if they barely win BC since it may be a 1-3 seat difference for all three parties at this point.

too much vote splitting in Quebec to be able to tell how it goes outside of the Greater Montreal Area

Cons vs Bloc
Bloc vs NDP
NDP vs Liberals
Bloc vs NDP vs Liberal vs Independant guy
Liberals vs Consevatives vs NDP

all over

 

[TheRealTalker]

Who else would Ford endorse, though? There's only one federal crazy party.

did Ford go to them or did they go to Ford

 

[maharg]

Considering the Fords keep talking about running for the leadership of the CPC, I imagine they were basically begging for a photo op with Harper.

 

[LurkerPrime]

Is this legit?

Watch Conservative campaign workers take down NDP and Liberal signs

http://www.meettheharpergang.com/bl...ervative-campaign-workers-take-down-ndp-signs

That's sad more than anything. (Assuming it's real. ...Y'never know.)

 

[TheRealTalker]

Considering the Fords keep talking about running for the leadership of the CPC, I imagine they were basically begging for a photo op with Harper.

A Ford run CPC would be amusing to watch

 

[maharg]

I think it would have to split the party. The Fords are a joke out west and among what's left of the PC wing of the party.

 

[eBay Huckster]

Sherbrooke Deckaration and 1995 YES voters running as candidates?

NON MERCI

No, you're right: just keep the electoral system in place that's forcing them to pander to bloquistes in Quebec and tack toward the centre outside, that'll surely solve your issue with there being two centrist parties.

 

[firehawk12]

Do endorsements even matter in 2015? Like who cares.

 

[gutter_trash]

A TVA pundit repeated twice that Charest is salivating at taking on the leadership of the Conservatives.

Charest has lots of work because Harper scrapped the Progressive out of the PC Reform merger. Not much P left in that party now.

 

[GuessMyUserName]

Not much P left in that party now.

*giggles*

 

[gutter_trash]

*giggles*

Unless it's in a cup







LOL

 

[Buba Big Guns]

PCs taking over the CPC + PR is the best possible scenario for Canada.

 

[mo60]

too much vote splitting in Quebec to be able to tell how it goes outside of the Greater Montreal Area

Cons vs Bloc
Bloc vs NDP
NDP vs Liberals
Bloc vs NDP vs Liberal vs Independant guy
Liberals vs Consevatives vs NDP

all over

I think the NDP will be able to win almost all the bloc and conservative fights besides maybe around Quebec City and the areas were the bloc is strong which is probably not many at this point. The Liberals are probably to weak outside of the Greater Montreal Area and some of their other strongholds this election to pose a challenge to the NDP. I can see the ndp getting anywhere from 35-50 seats in Quebec on election day at this point.

Also, the last time charest took over federal party he did not help them a lot. In the one election he took part in he only boosted his party's seat count from 2 to 20.I don't think he will be an amazing leader for the CPC.

 

[dragonfart28]

Fuck the Jays.

http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/politics/canada-election-2015-blue-jays-play-on-election-night-1.3272898

 

[Apathy]

The McCallion effiect!

So has anyone actually seen the email from Gagnier to Transcanada? Because...wow, I take back anything I even said about the optics being bad. It's a civics lesson. It's about as scandalous as a high school class that teaches you how government functions. Anyone saying it's evidence of "business interests" having a backdoor to the Liberal Party is, quite frankly, an idiot.

I want to see the people from yesterday saying it was a huge deal eat crow and acknowledge this today. Like we said yesterday, no big deal. but sure, NDP supporters, keep slinging that mud, works great for the Cons

 

[firehawk12]

Fuck the Jays.

http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/politics/ca...ight-1.3272898

This seems like someone gave an intern a story to write because they weren't doing anything today. lol

I wonder if you could find a similar article about the NHL playoffs and election night.

I want to see the people from yesterday saying it was a huge deal eat crow and acknowledge this today. Like we said yesterday, no big deal. but sure, NDP supporters, keep slinging that mud, works great for the Cons

Why is he giving any advice at all?

 

[matthewwhatever]

I think it would have to split the party. The Fords are a joke out west and among what's left of the PC wing of the party.

A TVA pundit repeated twice that Charest is salivating at taking on the leadership of the Conservatives.

Charest has lots of work because Harper scrapped the Progressive out of the PC Reform merger. Not much P left in that party now.

I don't think the Fords would have to worry about the PCers, since they're basically non-existent non. And even if they're a joke, Conservatives have generally shown they have no problem rallying around anyone who carries the Conservative banner. If they won the leadership, I'm sure CPC supporters would fall in line.

Charest, on the other hand, has no chance. Even if he hadn't identified as a Liberal (provincially, true, but still), I'd bet there are all kinds of skeletons in his closet. Remember those corruption probes?

 

[maharg]

I don't think the Fords would have to worry about the PCers, since they're basically non-existent now.

In the apparatus and among caucus? Sure. Among voters? Still lots of those left. There's only so long you can hold your nose.

 

[firehawk12]

As far as I know, neither Ford (presumably it'd be Doug who would run) even speaks French, so it's really not going to be an issue anyway.

 

[matthewwhatever]

Woah.

CANADALAND has learned that though Coyne the editor has signed off on an official National Post Harper endorsement, Coyne the columnist planned to endorse a different candidate under his own byline in the paper tomorrow.

But the National Post won't run it.

In the apparatus and among caucus? Sure. Among voters? Still lots of those left. There's only so long you can hold your nose.

These voters baffle me. How can any of them stay in a party that has zero connection to their beliefs? I know the PCs too often stood for not-Liberal over anything else, but I can't believe that thinking takes precedence. I take your word they're there, especially in Alberta, but that doesn't make it any less incomprehensible.

 

[firehawk12]

Woah.

It would be a mixed message if the paper says one thing and it's most prominent political editor says another.

These voters baffle me. How can any of them stay in a party that has zero connection to their beliefs? I know the PCs too often stood for not-Liberal over anything else, but I can't believe that thinking takes precedence. I take your word they're there, especially in Alberta, but that doesn't make it any less incomprehensible.

The fact that Scott Brison kept his seat long after his "defection" is probably a sign that many PC/soft-CPC voters went Liberal a long time ago.

 

[SRG01]

The fact that Scott Brison kept his seat long after his "defection" is probably a sign that many PC/soft-CPC voters went Liberal a long time ago.

I would say that would be as far back as the Chretien era Liberals.

edit: And yes, I'm well aware that his defection was quite some time afterward...