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Canadian General Election (OT) - #elxn42: October 19, 2015

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Any actual examples of these 'Rabble-esque' statements or are you setting up a straw-man?

After the prominently publisher-pushed Conservative wankery in 90% of Canadian mainstream media over the past week I wonder why posters still keep discounting independent journalists networks like Rabble. What are your news sources?

...reading Rabble? I'd never paid any attention to it until this election, but reading those message boards is like journeying down an insane rabbit hole. The Canadian media landscape is far from perfect, but I don't think a left-wing echo chamber where the only guiding principle is "Liberal, Tory, same old story) is the answer.

I think the conservatives and ndp are going to be both up a point or two on election day which will definetiely prevent the liberals from getting a majority

I'm starting to think the opposite: I think the NDP vote may collapse tomorrow. It looked like they'd hit their floor in the 22-23 range, but now we're starting to see them fall into the teens. I don't know if the Liberals will benefit from that enough to get a majority, but if it happens, by prediction of 125-130 seats for the LPC may end up being too low.

Looking at the regional breakdowns, if they seriously get to 60% in Atlantic Canada I may have to revise my estimates of how many seats they're going to win.

Wait, how many more seats can they win out there? I think they come out of Atlantic Canada with all but 4-5 seats. Even in a best case scenario for the Liberals, I think they've reached a point where they're just getting Conservative-in-Alberta-size wins. Adding 3-4 more seats shouldn't impact their final total that much!
 

SRG01

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I'm starting to think the opposite: I think the NDP vote may collapse tomorrow. It looked like they'd hit their floor in the 22-23 range, but now we're starting to see them fall into the teens. I don't know if the Liberals will benefit from that enough to get a majority, but if it happens, by prediction of 125-130 seats for the LPC may end up being too low.

A total collapse for the NDP seems impossible, unless the majority of NDP supporters were actually swing voters...
 

Fou-Lu

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Canada Poligaf - Return of the Liberals
Canada Poligaf - Legacy of the Trudeaus
Canada Poligaf - We've Made it to the Sunrise

If Conservatives pull out a win:

Harperland Poligaf - Hey! Why is Everyone Moving to Sweden?

If NDP came out of nowhere:
Canada Poligaf - Like a Snake in the Grass
 

Sean C

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Wait, how many more seats can they win out there? I think they come out of Atlantic Canada with all but 4-5 seats. Even in a best case scenario for the Liberals, I think they've reached a point where they're just getting Conservative-in-Alberta-size wins. Adding 3-4 more seats shouldn't impact their final total that much!
If they hit 60%, I think Saint John and perhaps even Tobique fall into their laps, as well as Halifax. Jack Harris and Peter Stoffer are probably safe, and Godin, fils, as well as the Tories in Fundy Royal and New Brunswicks Southwest. So that would be 27 Liberals.

As for titles:

Canada Poligaf - The Liberals Strike Back
 
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did you watch that episode of Tout le Monde en Parle? Did you find those questions about "authenticity" to be acceptable?
Didn't watch it.

oh yeah, Thomas Mulcair. Mulcair made fun of Jean Chrétien's English in the House of Commons. Mulcair is a dick for making fun of Chrétien's accent
That's the only time someone made fun of a francophone having some trouble with their english? Stop trolling please.
 
The old OT was called Canada Poligaf - The Wrath of Harperland. What should the new one be called?

I'm thinking Canada Poligaf - Nice Hairdeu.

Canada Poligaf - What gutter_trash said was Trudeau

Edit: Started celebrating legal weed early and forgot I was reading back in the thread.

Further edit: Apparently not that far back. Thus we see the full terrible consequences of the demon weed.
 

SRG01

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Canada Poligaf - Return of the Liberals
Canada Poligaf - Legacy of the Trudeaus
Canada Poligaf - We've Made it to the Sunrise

If Conservatives pull out a win:

Harperland Poligaf - Hey! Why is Everyone Moving to Sweden?

Oh, I got it: Canada Poligaf - Red like our flag

edit: For the NDP: Canada Poligaf - Orange Crushed
 
Didn't watch it.


That's the only time someone made fun of a francophone having some trouble with their english? Stop trolling please.

no Canadian should be made fun of for their accent, period. It's hard to learn a language. both French and English Canadians should be more understanding about each other's efforts

Dutrizac is a dick
 

Walpurgis

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the sad part is that French talk radio and French language television have grilled him for making mistakes when he speaks French

it's not his fault though, his mom spoke English, his dad spoke both.

98.5's Benoit Dutrizac never held any punches to make fun of Trudeau when he speaks French. Always making fun of him.

Plus when Trudeau showed up on Tout Le Monde en Parle, they grilled him about what language he speaks to his children and that nonesense. Trudeau said that his wife Sophie is a francophone and that they speak French with their kids.

When it comes to nationalists, you always have to prove to be "good enough" for them to accept you
Wow, that is screwed up.

I'm sure no francophone quebecer was ever made fun of for his mistakes in english however.
That's not socially acceptable. Actually, it's considered racist to make fun of a non-native English speaker's accent. I don't know if it's happened on TV though.
If Conservatives pull out a win:

Harperland Poligaf - Hey! Why is Everyone Moving to Sweden?

I kind of want Harper to win so we get that title.
 

mo60

Member
Does anyone have an example of a party that won one majority while they were government and lost it in the next election because the conservatives will also be making history in a bad way if they lose power on monday.
 
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no Canadian should be made fun of for their accent, period. It's hard to learn a language and both French and English Canadians should be more understanding about each other's efforst

Of course, I'm not arguing the opposite. I just wanted to clarify that, once again, what you accuse francophones of doing exclusively happens all the time from anglophones too.
 
Canada Poligaf - Return of the Liberals
Canada Poligaf - Legacy of the Trudeaus
Canada Poligaf - We've Made it to the Sunrise

If Conservatives pull out a win:

Harperland Poligaf - Hey! Why is Everyone Moving to Sweden?

If NDP came out of nowhere:
Canada Poligaf - Like a Snake in the Grass
Canada Poligaf - Justin, Justin, Justin, That Boy's Up To Something
 
Of course, I'm not arguing the opposite. I just wanted to clarify that, once again, what you accuse francophones of doing exclusively happens all the time from anglophones too.

the media have been really hard on him big time; calling out his "authenticity" because he grew up in BC with an English speaking mom
 

Walpurgis

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no Canadian should be made fun of for their accent, period. It's hard to learn a language. both French and English Canadians should be more understanding about each other's efforts

Dutrizac is a dick
I didn't know that Mulcair did that. It's an ass move. Maybe he gets a free pass because he's from Quebec.
 

EvilMario

Will QA for food.
I've been living in Canada for 10 years and I've been a citizen for 4 years, so I've known nothing Harper. It'll be so nice saying good bye to that shit-show.. I hope.

Liberal win:
Canada Poligaf - He's Ready

Conservative win:
Canada Politigaf - Now with more racism

Canada Poligaf - Ready, or not; Here they come.
 

SickBoy

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I voted Green, since they're the only party that's pushing for a Guaranteed Income Supplement. I'm in Edmonton-Whitemud (or was it Riverbend?) so it's pretty much a lock for the CPC.

I loved living in ridings that were slam dunks... I've voted for my favorite local candidate (usually), the party I felt was most important (sometimes)... basically based on whatever criteria seemed to matter most at the time. There were times when I voted for the wiener candidate just as a protest vote when the majors were all terrible.

Living in those types of ridings is one reason I'm a big fan of electoral reform.

This year my riding is maybe in play, so I'm voting for one of the contenders. Fortunately, he's my preferred candidate.
 

Mailbox

Member
Oh, I got it: Canada Poligaf - Red like our flag

I like that.

Here are mine:

Canada Poligaf - Out with the old, in with the.... wait how old is he?
Canada Poligaf - Fabulous hair for our fabulous country
Canada Poligaf - Red, white and red again.
 

Kinsei

Banned
This has been my first federal election that I've paid attention to (mostly due to it being the first I'm eligible to vote in) and it sure has been interesting. Here's hoping for a Liberal minority.

John Oliver just had a segment on the Canadian election, so good

I was hoping he would. Can't wait for it to be uploaded to Youtube.
 

NYR

Member
Liberal Win:
Canada Poligaf - The Liberal Force Awakens

PC Win:
Canada Poligaf - The Empire Strikes Back
 

Mailbox

Member
Tory win:

Harperland Poligaf - Really? Again?
Harperland Poligaf - CanadaGaf's mass extinction

Lib win:

Canada Poligaf - We were drowning for 10 years, and now the sun rises.
Canada Poligaf - :D

NDP win:

Canada Poligaf - D...Did that just happen?
Canada Poligaf - Angry Tom's Canada
 

mo60

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I'm starting to think the opposite: I think the NDP vote may collapse tomorrow. It looked like they'd hit their floor in the 22-23 range, but now we're starting to see them fall into the teens. I don't know if the Liberals will benefit from that enough to get a majority, but if it happens, by prediction of 125-130 seats for the LPC may end up being too low.

I think the ndp vote is going to be efficient enough they do a bit better than expected. I expect them to get seats in places no one expects which will push them most likely over 70 seats.

Also, what will have if a regional protest party(like the bloc) forms government eventually?I think it's impossible but you never know in Canada.
 

exYle

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:lol Edmontonians popping up all over the thread :) This was the Millwoods rally with Amarjeet Sohi, right? What are the prospects of him winning the riding?

Can't say for sure, I'm not familiar with Mill Woods' voting past. But he's an East Indian man in a pretty East Indian neighbourhood, so maybe?
 

23qwerty

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I think the ndp vote is going to be efficient enough they do a bit better than expected. I expect them to get seats in places no one expects which will push them most likely over 70 seats.

Also, what will have if a regional protest party(like the bloc) forms government eventually?I think it's impossible but you never know in Canada.

Who would vote for BQ outside of Quebec?
 
If the anyone but conservative sentiment is so strong why are they breaking up their votes into two factions. Makes no sense.

Right now, seems like a vote for NDP is a vote for Harper.
 

Pedrito

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I still don't want to get my hopes up so I'm gonna go with a conservatives minority.

If the polls hold up, I'm okay with Trudeau as PM. As cheesy as it sounds, I think he has a good heart, which is a pretty damn good start. Hopefully he manages to suround himself with competent people.

The orange crash is disappointing but a big swing in favor of the liberals or the NDP in the end was always going to happen with so many ABC voters. With the 10% drop in Québec post-Niqab and Ontario's obsessive fear of the NDP, the crash was unavoidable.
 
If they hit 60%, I think Saint John and perhaps even Tobique fall into their laps, as well as Halifax. Jack Harris and Peter Stoffer are probably safe, and Godin, fils, as well as the Tories in Fundy Royal and New Brunswicks Southwest. So that would be 27 Liberals.

Hmm...for what it's worth, I ran the numbers through Hill & Knowlton's Election Predictor, and they still had the other parties winning all those ridings with the Liberals at 60.

Does anyone have an example of a party that won one majority while they were government and lost it in the next election because the conservatives will also be making history in a bad way if they lose power on monday.

Do you mean going from a majority on one side to a majority on the other? Or do you mean a one-and-done majority? The former has happened a whole bunch, most recently in 1988-1993 (Conservative majority leading into a Liberal majority). The latter is a little more rare:

1874: Liberals win a majority; 1878: Conservatives win a majority (voters turfed Macdonald from office because of scandal the first time around, then realized they missed him by the next election)
1930: Conservatives win a majority; 1935: Liberals win a majority (the Great Depression got the Conservatives in, and then it swung them back out)
1980: Liberals win a majority; 1984: Conservatives win a majority (this doesn't really count though, since the Liberals had governed from 1963 to 1979, and were only out of office for about nine months during Joe Clark's brief government)
 

Walpurgis

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If the anyone but conservative sentiment is so strong why are they breaking up their votes into two factions. Makes no sense.

Right now, seems like a vote for NDP is a vote for Harper.

It's more complicated than that. There are 308 elections going on at once around the country. They are called ridings. My riding has historically been NDP but the Conservatives won last election. My only choice to stop the Conservatives is to vote for the NDP. The Liberals in my riding have never had a chance. However, now that the Liberals are winning nationally, there will be people in my riding who vote Liberal. This is where the vote will split and it is how I will end up stuck with my baboon MP.
 

mo60

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Hmm...for what it's worth, I ran the numbers through Hill & Knowlton's Election Predictor, and they still had the other parties winning all those ridings with the Liberals at 60.



Do you mean going from a majority on one side to a majority on the other? Or do you mean a one-and-done majority? The former has happened a whole bunch, most recently in 1988-1993 (Conservative majority leading into a Liberal majority). The latter is a little more rare:

1874: Liberals win a majority; 1878: Conservatives win a majority (voters turfed Macdonald from office because of scandal the first time around, then realized they missed him by the next election)
1930: Conservatives win a majority; 1935: Liberals win a majority (the Great Depression got the Conservatives in, and then it swung them back out)
1980: Liberals win a majority; 1984: Conservatives win a majority (this doesn't really count though, since the Liberals had governed from 1963 to 1979, and were only out of office for about nine months during Joe Clark's brief government)

One and done majority.Searching through wikipedia I found no elections were a one and done majority occurred.
 
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