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[Deleted member 126221]

Raising your culture above others and trying to force it on others while forcing other cultures out is bad to me.

That's... a different thing than being proud of your culture, you know right? Aren't you proud of some parts of canadian culture?

 

[BigJonsson]

Pollster Nik Nanos ‏@niknanos 29s30 seconds ago

Libs hit 39% on Sunday @niknanos @ctvnews @globeandmail tracking #canpoli

 

[Tiktaalik]

Mulcair campaigned on a balanced budget no matter what, in the face of obvious recession. That's right wing economic policy.

Trudeau campaigned on spending into deficit on infrastructure during recession. That's left wing economic policy.

I don't think you can do social left wing on a right wing economic policy. Those social programs are going to kick into high gear during recessions and cause budget deficits. And they should, it helps stimulate depressed economies.

So yeah, I certainly think Trudeau is running to the left of Mulcair.

Deficits and spending has nothing to do with political idiology. What if a party went into deficit to give tax cuts to the rich for example?

Infrastructure is non-idiological. What is left wing or right wing about building a highway? Depending on the type of infrastructure it can either increase or narrow the divide between rich and poor.

Tommy Douglas implemented Medicare in Saskatchewan while balancing budgets. Was Tommy Douglas following a right wing agenda by not running deficits?

 

[Walpurgis]

https://youtu.be/01C4o4DcNK4

Guy probably rebels by heating up a glass of milk.

I do that. Cold milk hurts my teeth.

That's... a different thing than being proud of your culture, you know right? Aren't you proud of some parts of canadian culture?

It's the kind of nationalism that I am talking about.

The part of Canadian culture that makes me proud is multiculturalism, tolerance and acceptance. I also liked the culture of helping other countries in trouble and anti-war but the CPC has eroded that. I don't have this strange notion of Canadian values or Manitoban values and get mad at people from different cultures.

 

[DopeyFish]

final nanos

Liberal 39.1
Con 30.5
NDP 19.7
BQ 5.5
Green 4.6

 

[Mailbox]

That's... a different thing than being proud of your culture, you know right? Aren't you proud of some parts of canadian culture?

What is "Canadian culture"?

I honestly want to know.

 

[TheRealTalker]

final nanos

Liberal 39.1
Con 30.5
NDP 19.7
BQ 5.5
Green 4.6

 

[bardia]

You're gonna be making $200k out of school?

I have a feeling that you're not, in which case your taxes are actually going to be less under the Liberals. Don't buy into the Conservative misleading talking point.

I work in healthcare (spent the last 8 years in university) and will be making well above the 200K threshold.

However, that's only the really big negative thing I see with the Liberals (as well as the small business tax increase), so I'm still looking for convincing that voting Liberal's will have more overall positive outcomes than voting for Conservatives

 

[Deleted member 126221]

It's the kind of nationalism that I am talking about.

The part of Canadian culture that makes me proud is multiculturalism, tolerance and acceptance. I also liked the culture of helping other countries in trouble and anti-war but the CPC has eroded that.

So we agree that nationalism is not inherently right wing? Glad we can agree on something for once.

 

[Mr.Sumal]

Pollster Nik Nanos ‏@niknanos 29s30 seconds ago

Libs hit 39% on Sunday @niknanos @ctvnews @globeandmail tracking #canpoli

HOT DAMN!

most pollsters are converging to lib majority ( cmon ekos)

 

[Deleted member 126221]

What is "Canadian culture"?

I honestly want to know.

"Culture" is a pretty large term.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture

 

[lupinko]

I really don't think they can get away with that one and I think that Trudeau sincerely wants it. Didn't he smoke weed before?

It's not that he smokes it, he's from BC, he knows what many people in BC know and that weed should be legal.

All the things he said about it are true.

BC Bud is the top marijuana in the world, and is often traded for weapons or harder narcotics by BC organized crime.

Marijuana is easier for youth to get than cigarettes or alcohol.

Canada's medical marijuana industry is expected in a couple of years to earn $1.3 billion annually.

But, BC's current not legal marijuana industry brings in $6 billion annually NOW.

If you watched that Vice story with BC legal growops (currently only for medical usage) you'll know that a legalized and regulated industry would bring prices down, make it safer to purchase for adults, harder for kids, and also have standards for better product for weed smokers at the end of the day.

Why would anyone want something from some ghetto basement when one could get higher quality stuff from a high tech operation?

I don't do weed, but I do support legalization full stop.

Also I'm a person of quality, and the operations in BC that are getting ready for legalization are space age out of this world stuff when it comes to producing and quality control.

 

[jstripes]

Final Forum poll. Liberals are gonna be happy with this.

Stephen... did you eat all the cookies?

HOT DAMN!

most pollsters are converging to lib majority ( cmon ekos)

As a Leafs fan, I've learned to temper my optimism.

We'll see when it's over.

 

[Buba Big Guns]

Yea, Trudeau's rallies are insane. Feels like Obama 08 levels sometimes.

Also, Harper is fucked with immigrants. What the CPC were thinking no one fucking knows. They deserve an ass beating.

Lets hope the polls are right.

 

[gutter_trash]

HOT DAMN!

most pollsters are converging to lib majority ( cmon ekos)

those NDP numbers, yikes

Yea, Trudeau's rallies are insane. Feels like Obama 08 levels sometimes.

Also, Harper is fucked with immigrants. What the CPC were thinking no one fucking knows. They deserve an ass beating.

Lets hope the polls are right.

All the work Jason Kenny did to get those votes in 2011 have been tossed into the trash. What a dumb dumb strategy the Cons did to play the Old Stock Canadian card because demographically the cities carry weight, a big weight and there is not enough rural ridings to counter the totality of the city vote

 

[SilentMatthew]

Just y'all wait and see the Tories do some mario kart nonsense like in the UK election.

 

[Walpurgis]

It's not that he smokes it, he's from BC, he knows what many people in BC know and that weed should be legal.

All the things he said about it are true.

BC Bud is the top marijuana in the world, and is often traded for weapons or harder narcotics by BC organized crime.

Marijuana is easier for youth to get than cigarettes or alcohol.

Canada's medical marijuana industry is expected in a couple of years to earn $1.3 billion annually.

But, BC's current not legal marijuana industry brings in $6 billion annually NOW.

If you watched that Vice story with BC legal growops (currently only for medical usage) you'll know that a legalized and regulated industry would bring prices down, make it safer to purchase for adults, harder for kids, and also have standards for better product for weed smokers at the end of the day.

Why would anyone want something from some ghetto basement when one could get higher quality stuff from a high tech operation?

I don't do weed, but I do support legalization full stop.

Also I'm a person of quality, and the operations in BC that are getting ready for legalization are space age out of this world stuff when it comes to producing and quality control.

I agree and what I meant was that I feel Trudeau sincerely wants it legalised. Marijuana being illegal never made sense. I honestly feel like it's kind of racist that Europeans could keep their alcohol but Aboriginals couldn't keep their marijuana.

Stephen... did you eat all the cookies?

He's probably been in his office crying and stuffing his face with ice cream. Man's been getting thick.

 

[firehawk12]

So what's the generally accepted narrative for why the Conservative numbers started to slide? Niqab niqab niqab?

 

[GSG Flash]

I work in healthcare (spent the last 8 years in university out of high school) and will be making well above the 200K threshold.

However, that's only the really big negative thing I see with the Liberals (as well as the small business tax increase), so I'm still looking for convincing that voting Liberal's will have more overall positive outcomes than voting for Conservatives

So you will be making $200k+ right out of college? Or are you talking about a hypothetical salary down the road? Either way, as Maharg said, you'll be fine

And, like the NDP, the Liberals want to cut the small business tax from 11% to 9%. I'm not sure where you're getting your information from, but it's not a reliable source.

 

[gutter_trash]

So what's the generally accepted narrative for why the Conservative numbers started to slide? Niqab niqab niqab?

simple regime change

circle of life

 

[lupinko]

Yea, Trudeau's rallies are insane. Feels like Obama 08 levels sometimes.

Also, Harper is fucked with immigrants. What the CPC were thinking no one fucking knows. They deserve an ass beating.

Lets hope the polls are right.

Nah just immigrants, also children of immigrants, or basically any Canadian (regardless if they were born in Canada) that has pathway to easily acquire or has already acquired citizenship elsewhere.

Look, the CPC even contemplated what I've said all along in my numerous tirades bashing C-24.

http://youtu.be/hyelb_RohHY

CPC racism and discrimination is not even a white vs minority thing, they actually found a way to be even more hatefilled and fascist.

 

[Walpurgis]

Just y'all wait and see the Tories do some mario kart nonsense like in the UK election.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite...ction,_2015#Final_predictions_before_the_vote
It looks like it was dead even before that election. I can't see the CPC getting a majority tomorrow. Even CPC staff and campaign workers have said as much.

 

[Tiktaalik]

Those nanos numbers are a bit scary for those of us that are hoping for a Liberal minority.

It's ironic I'm relying on the flaws of FPTP to preserve NDP seats so that the Liberals can be held to their promise of getting rid of FPTP...

 

[Mr.Mike]

I work in healthcare (spent the last 8 years in university out of high school) and will be making well above the 200K threshold.

However, that's only the really big negative thing I see with the Liberals (as well as the small business tax increase), so I'm still looking for convincing that voting Liberal's will have more overall positive outcomes than voting for Conservatives

With the Liberals you get.

1. A much more pro-science government (I'm guessing you're a fan of science)
2. The return of the long-form census and more data-driven and technocratic governance
3. Greater spending on infrastructure
4. Increased CPP contributions (this is a bit of a far off one, but if we don't force people to save enough for retirement then eventually we'll be forced to pay to take care of them, at least this way they'd be paying into their own retirement, and you'll at least also get more CPP benefits)
5. Legal weed
6. A much more serious effort towards reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
7. A party that might actually be able to get rid of some of the trade barriers between provinces.
8. The Liberals will let you dip into your RRSP for a downpayment on a house more than once.

 

[Mr.Sumal]

As a Leafs fan, I've learned to temper my optimism.

We'll see when it's over.

the best part of this nanos evening poll was that it wasn't a 3 day rolling poll. All i have to do now is to vote tomorrow and watch the election results

 

[Walpurgis]

I work in healthcare (spent the last 8 years in university) and will be making well above the 200K threshold.

However, that's only the really big negative thing I see with the Liberals (as well as the small business tax increase), so I'm still looking for convincing that voting Liberal's will have more overall positive outcomes than voting for Conservatives

Use this. It should be helpful.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/election/platforms

 

[whitehawk]

Pollster Nik Nanos ‏@niknanos 29s30 seconds ago

Libs hit 39% on Sunday @niknanos @ctvnews @globeandmail tracking #canpoli

final nanos

Liberal 39.1
Con 30.5
NDP 19.7
BQ 5.5
Green 4.6

Oh my god.

Tomorrow is going to be something.

 

[ivysaur12]

Pollster Nik Nanos ‏@niknanos 29s30 seconds ago

Libs hit 39% on Sunday @niknanos @ctvnews @globeandmail tracking #canpoli

 

[Mr.Mike]

Just remember to actually vote guys, nobodies won anything yet. At the end of the campaign we actually hold the election for a reason

 

[MMarston]

 

[exYle]

The pictures the Liberals have been tweeting out for the last two days have been insane:



Some of those shots are from Calgary and Edmonton. A Liberal leader in Alberta on the day before a close election!

I was at the Edmonton rally this morning. Pretty dense turnout. Waited in line for an hour just to get in.

 

[Blackhead]

A Liberal majority will be as bad as a Conservative majority.

No.

This is one of those Rabble-esque statements that's so self-evidently absurd, it doesn't even deserve to be refuted. It's just wrong.

Any actual examples of these 'Rabble-esque' statements or are you setting up a straw-man?

After the prominently publisher-pushed Conservative wankery in 90% of Canadian mainstream media over the past week I wonder why posters still keep discounting independent journalists networks like Rabble. What are your news sources?

 

[pinsomniac]

What's the best way to stay on top of live coverage & returns from the US? It's been fascinating to follow this thread, and would love to watch tomorrow play out in real-time.

 

[Minus_Me]

I agree and what I meant was that I feel Trudeau sincerely wants it legalised. Marijuana being illegal never made sense. I honestly feel like it's kind of racist that Europeans could keep their alcohol but Aboriginals couldn't keep their marijuana.

He's probably been in his office crying and stuffing his face with ice cream. Man's been getting thick.

Cannabis did not exist here until the Columbian exchange.

 

[Walpurgis]

What's the best way to stay on top of live coverage & returns from the US? It's been fascinating to follow this thread, and would love to watch tomorrow play out in real-time.

http://www.cbc.ca/includes/federalelection/dashboard/index.html

Cannabis did not exist here until the Columbian exchange.

Really? I figured that it was always here since I believe it is used in some Aboriginal ceremonies. Maybe that was some other plant.

 

[Slime]

Holy crap, that poll!

I wish my vote was worth something. My riding is pretty dire.

 

[explodet]

I'm working super late tomorrow so I've gotta vote first thing in the morning, going to hang outside my election office before they open, hope there's not a big line. Good thing it's in my building.

My 3DS is charged and ready.

 

[BigJonsson]

What's the best way to stay on top of live coverage & returns from the US? It's been fascinating to follow this thread, and would love to watch tomorrow play out in real-time.

CBC.ca

 

[gutter_trash]

What's the best way to stay on top of live coverage & returns from the US? It's been fascinating to follow this thread, and would love to watch tomorrow play out in real-time.

http://www.cbc.ca/includes/federalelection/dashboard/index.html

does this work for you?

yes, they have a tablet version, so I can sit on my sofa and switch between CTV, CBC and TVA (yes TVA, I want to see the reaction of Mario Dumont and company)


*edit, I just discovered there is a Live Stream below mid page. Hey Peter Mansbridge

 

[MMarston]

What's the best way to stay on top of live coverage & returns from the US? It's been fascinating to follow this thread, and would love to watch tomorrow play out in real-time.

I'm guessing the CTV News and CBC News websites got you covered

 

[Perfect Blue]

Insanity. I'm going to cry if those results come to fruition

 

[gutter_trash]

fun fact: you can walk from Gilles Duceppe's to Thomas Mulcair's to Justin Trudeau's ridings on foot

 

[ivysaur12]

American here. Can't wait to watch along with everyone tomorrow.

What times do the first ridings close?

 

[Tiktaalik]

I'm kind of intrigued by this VICE livestream. It's going to have Doug Ford.

http://en.daily.vice.com/page/election-circus-2015?utm_source=vicetwitterca

 

[firehawk12]

American here. Can't wait to watch along with everyone tomorrow.

What times do the first ridings close?

7:30 EST. I expect coverage to start around 6 because it's free ratings. lol

 

[udiie]

gonna be following along at work all night tomorrow
kind of excited for this

 

[23qwerty]

https://www.votetogether.ca/riding/59020/north-okanaganshuswap/

So a couple weeks ago it looked like NDP was the one to vote for but Liberals have a huge surge which isn't too surprising. Wondering if Liberal's gonna be the one to vote for now? Is there a more up to date intent poll?

 

[mo60]

Those nanos numbers are a bit scary for those of us that are hoping for a Liberal minority.

It's ironic I'm relying on the flaws of FPTP to preserve NDP seats so that the Liberals can be held to their promise of getting rid of FPTP...

I think the conservatives and ndp are going to be both up a point or two on election day which will definetiely prevent the liberals from getting a majority

 

[Perfect Blue]

Stressing over the Jays game + election results won't be good for my heart

 

[Walpurgis]

fun fact: you can walk from Gilles Duceppe's to Thomas Mulcair's to Justin Trudeau's ridings on foot

Quebec has too much power over federal politics. We should start a party that represents Canada's views and values so that we can separate from that place. We'll call it the Canadian Bloc.