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Canadian General Election (OT) - #elxn42: October 19, 2015

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Azih

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elty said:
Personal wish:
Liberal majority
MMPR
NDP kept most of their seat in Quebec
Bloc got shut out
Conservative got split into three parties: a racist one, a big corporation one, and a progressive one
Harper and his senior staff got convicted for voter fraud.
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Change that to a Liberal minority and that's my wish list. A majority gives the Libs amble opportunity to kill voting reform dead.
 
TheStruggler

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FreeQuebec86 said:
Hey ! This seem to be the place to post this!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cF2Xnde1aw

I made the 4 majors party leader and make them fight in WWE 2k15 !!!

My english is REALLY bad i think... But i wanted to do it in english, because Canada's majority is english

I hope you might like it! If you hate my voice, just turn off the sound xD.

Good election day people ! And i'm open to feedback, good or bad!
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holyyyyyy fuck lmao
 
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matthewwhatever

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firehawk12 said:
I would assume nothing short of a formal powersharing agreement with NDP members of cabinet would have to be offered, something that the Liberals will NEVER give the NDP.


I mean, what's the alternative? People seem really optimistic that even though they are losing seats, the NDP are still doing fine. For me, I see them sliding into irrelevancy in the next decade - especially if no form of PR is implemented by the next cycle.
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Winning?

I get your point, but I still think it would be a disaster for the NDP to prop up a Conservative minority, regardless of who the PM is. It would demoralize their supporters, and make it really difficult to campaign against the Conservatives in the next election. Aligning with the CPC so closely would hasten their demise, not stave it off.
 
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Buba Big Guns

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Azih said:
Change that to a Liberal minority and that's my wish list. A majority gives the Libs amble opportunity to kill voting reform dead.
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Did Justin ever say anything about a time frame of when he wants to implement reform?

All I remember is him saying this will be the last election with fptp.
 
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firehawk12

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matthewwhatever said:
Winning?

I get your point, but I still think it would be a disaster for the NDP to prop up a Conservative minority, regardless of who the PM is. It would demoralize their supporters, and make it really difficult to campaign against the Conservatives in the next election. Aligning with the CPC so closely would hasten their demise, not stave it off.
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Let's face it, the NDP will never win. lol
Ontario is dead to them, especailly with the further marginalization of unions. The best they can hope for is the kingmaker role while the Conservatives lick their wounds and gear up for the next election.

Mysterious said:
What do you mean by this?
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Why would the Liberals implement something that would cause them to lose the next election?
 
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Mimosa97

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FreeQuebec86 said:
Hey ! This seem to be the place to post this!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cF2Xnde1aw

I made the 4 majors party leader and make them fight in WWE 2k15 !!!

My english is REALLY bad i think... But i wanted to do it in english, because Canada's majority is english

I hope you might like it! If you hate my voice, just turn off the sound xD.

Good election day people ! And i'm open to feedback, good or bad!
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Hahahah très bon j'ai bien ri :D
 
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Razorskin

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Aim_Ed said:
Dumb question: can I vote if I'm not in my home city?
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Tiktaalik

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Expect every party to work with every other party on an issue by issue basis.

We're not going to see a Liberal/NDP enlightened left wing coalition government. The Liberals will use the NDP to pass legislation when it serves them, and the Conservatives in other situations when the NDP balks at support.

Similarly at some point I'd expect the NDP to team up with the Conservatives to put the pressure on a Liberal government on something or other.
 
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Pedrito

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Tasha Kheiriddin ‏@TashaKheiriddin 3 hil y a 3 heures
bread and circuses for all, sigh

It's gonna be a long day for Tasha.
 
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sikkinixx

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Tiktaalik said:
Expect every party to work with every other party on an issue by issue basis.

We're not going to see a Liberal/NDP enlightened left wing coalition government. The Liberals will use the NDP to pass legislation when it serves them, and the Conservatives in other situations when the NDP balks at support.

Similarly at some point I'd expect the NDP to team up with the Conservatives to put the pressure on a Liberal government on something or other.
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While all sides try to take credit for everything that passes and scream bloody murder when the other two join up to pass a bill. Minority governments smh
 
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firehawk12

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Tiktaalik said:
Expect every party to work with every other party on an issue by issue basis.

We're not going to see a Liberal/NDP enlightened left wing coalition government. The Liberals will use the NDP to pass legislation when it serves them, and the Conservatives in other situations when the NDP balks at support.

Similarly at some point I'd expect the NDP to occasionally team up with the Conservatives to put the pressure on a Liberal government on something or other.
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I expect the NDP and Conservatives will feel no reservation voting down bills that won't trigger any kind of confidence motion.

That said, if it's a majority, then it doesn't matter. Any NDP MPs that survived from last term should just be glad that they have enough tenure to collect a pension and spend the rest of the time planning their next careers. lol
 
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Buba Big Guns

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FreeQuebec86 said:
Hey ! This seem to be the place to post this!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cF2Xnde1aw

I made the 4 majors party leader and make them fight in WWE 2k15 !!!

My english is REALLY bad i think... But i wanted to do it in english, because Canada's majority is english

I hope you might like it! If you hate my voice, just turn off the sound xD.

Good election day people ! And i'm open to feedback, good or bad!
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LOOOL that was great
 
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trifelife

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Vancouver Granville is going to be interesting with Leadnow trying to fuck the game up with their sham NDP endorsement. I'd vote Green but the riding's going to be too tight.

Alright let's do this.
 
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Azih

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Mysterious said:
What do you mean by this?
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There's a million and one different ways to ignore your election promises if you have full power for four years or, more likely, pretend to do something by instituting a process that's designed to fail.
Read what happened to voting reform in BC and ON.
In BC the first time voting reform actually got something crazy like 58+% support in a referendum but since it didn't go above the arbitrary bullshit 60% threshold the BC libs had set that died.
In Ontario the citizen's assembly that designed the system begged for more time to open the system up but they didn't get it and then the process of actually telling people what they were voting for was complete and total bullshit.
 
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Tiktaalik

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firehawk12 said:
I expect the NDP and Conservatives will feel no reservation voting down bills that won't trigger any kind of confidence motion.

That said, if it's a majority, then it doesn't matter. Any NDP MPs that survived from last term should just be glad that they have enough tenure to collect a pension and spend the rest of the time planning their next careers. lol
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For some concrete examples:

The Liberals could suggest some changes that increase oversight and make C-51 better, and the NDP could say they don't go far enough. The Conservatives would probably step in here to support the Libs.

My prediction on voting reform is that the Liberals will propose AV, and the Conservatives and NDP won't support it and will vote against it (for different reasons). It won't be in a budget bill and it'll just be allowed to die and the Liberals will go "welp we tried u guys."
 
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firehawk12

Subete no aware
Azih said:
There's a million and one different ways to ignore your election promises if you have full power for four years or, more likely, pretend to do something by instituting a process that's designed to fail. Read what happened to voting reform in BC and ON. In BC the first time voting reform actually got something crazy like 58+% support in a referendum but since it didn't go above the arbitrrary bullshit 60% threshold the BC libs had set that died. In Ontario the citizen's assembly that designed the system Ontario begged for more time to open the system up but they didn't get it and then the process of actually telling people what they were voting for was complete and total bullshit.
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I could see them drafting a voting reform bill that's so shit that the NDP would vote it down.
 
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