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Canadian PoliGAF - 42nd Parliament: Sunny Ways in Trudeaupia
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Killa Sasa
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I should read it in context because hopefully it contextualizes what is on the surface a dumbass statement.
If it is still dumb - I've been wrong before - then way to delegitimize yourself. They should own it on an individual level.
If it is still dumb - I've been wrong before - then way to delegitimize yourself. They should own it on an individual level.
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Trust me, it doesn't.
matthewwhatever
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Really? What kind of context would make it sound not-insane?
It honestly comes across as a badly thought out "PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEE!" statement.
Black relations aren't in as dire straights here as they are in the US, so the issue gets ignored a lot.
This image encapsulates everything that is wrong with 21st century partisan politics. People are more attached to their ideologies than actual solutions.
Inspired by the thread about why more people don't invest expendable income, I looked up how the CPP fund is doing. It's at $300 billion CAD as of September 30, 2016. There's a bunch of info on the site, but here's some cool charts.
Killa Sasa
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I honestly haven't been able to look but maybe she said something beforehand like "if I wanted to sound like a jackass, here is what I would say: [og quote]".
This is what I think is most likely and why I'm leaning towards jackassery.
firehawk12
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BLM Toronto seems to have a lot of mixed priorities, but they do get attention. Like I get the point that Black history in Canada is invisible - certainly it was completely ignored during my public education in Ontario, and it took me basically becoming a grad student and stumbling on people like Lawrence Hill to understand that Canada wasn't a utopia for freed American slaves that we like to think it is. The fact that Nova Scotia took decades to apologize for Africville only shows that historical progress is slow.
I treat this like the BLM movement protesting Sanders speeches, or doing simple things like occupying restaurants in NYC. Making people uncomfortable is the only way to be heard, because we're at a point where even shouting gets ignored.
Oof, BLM is quite a mixed bag (as should be expected of any non-centralized group) but I can't name anything good the Canadian chapter has done, from banning police at pride to this nonsense.
tbf, the members of pride voted for it in pretty large numbers. It's not like BLM forced them to ban it.
firehawk12
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Yeah, it was at the AGM. Although I guess it depends who was there to actually vote I suppose.
Nobody that would oppose that vote was there because it wasn't supposed to even be on the docket. That's on Pride's leadership for allowing to be bullied like that though.
Police in uniform, and especially carrying weapons or driving in armored vehicles is absolutely something that should be questioned and probably not allowed at pride. I absolutely think raising that issue was a good and important thing to do and I hope my own city follows suit. They drove an APC in our parade a few years back and it was gross.
The only way to do it would be to put it into some historical context with Trudeau as the current leader of a country founded on repressing and systemically removing indigenous people. But that's stretching things to an extreme degree where the term she used is basically inaccurate (beyond it being used at all)
Eg trudeau is the latest in a long line of white leaders who repressed indigenous peoples
Killa Sasa
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So I watched it.
Who needs Reed Richards with these fucking reaches re: Trudeau as a white supremacist. Shit, the womp womp trombone should've played.
There's something to be said for "look at me," but they're not supposed to completely undercut your message. That doesn't do away with the very real discrimination at play in Canada -- we are not immune -- but I feel that BLM TO sometimes loses the message in their work. They get lost sometimes especially compared to a few of their US counterparts. Hopefully they find their way because they've taken up the name of a vital cause.
Try again Yus.
Who needs Reed Richards with these fucking reaches re: Trudeau as a white supremacist. Shit, the womp womp trombone should've played.
There's something to be said for "look at me," but they're not supposed to completely undercut your message. That doesn't do away with the very real discrimination at play in Canada -- we are not immune -- but I feel that BLM TO sometimes loses the message in their work. They get lost sometimes especially compared to a few of their US counterparts. Hopefully they find their way because they've taken up the name of a vital cause.
Try again Yus.
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TheQueen'sOwn
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This is terrible. He's now playing it off as a joke but Erin O'Toole should be ashamed.
https://twitter.com/ErinOTooleMP/status/828405944367403008
https://twitter.com/ErinOTooleMP/status/828405944367403008
gutter_trash
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if O'Leary becomes leader, it's 100% the media's fault.
because the party apparatus , the weight of the ridings should favor Bernier as it stands
"Trump will never get past the primaries, now back to covering Ben J. Ghazi... because both sides."
Obviously it's difficult to gauge how much support O'Leary has compared to Chong, Raitt and Leitch but let's not pretend like O'Leary shouldn't be seeing the scrutiny that Drumpf should have received from the very beginning. In some respects, he has with pieces about his lies and bad business dealings, not to mention a former Dragon's Den host, Arlene Dickinson, calling him out,not to mention coverage of O'Leary giving a rather demeaning and sexist response about her being "emotional" or the infamous gun video being posted on the same day as the funeral of one of Quebec's worse mass shootings in history. Them giving his asinine antics the attention they deserve is their job.
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Since it's quite possible, even probable, he'll be Tory leader because of morons, never let him live down the fact he believes this:
Kevin O'Leary says 3.5 billion people living in poverty is 'fantastic news'
Kevin O'Leary says 3.5 billion people living in poverty is 'fantastic news'
WTF. He's trying to pass this off as a campaign video? No one at his camp told him this was just terrible? You can't just say Trudeau "is secretly rooting for fellow celebrity" with no actual facts to prove that.
BLM Toronto has yet to impress me and appear as more than a group of raving wackos.
The cause of BLM overall is a good one, but this chapter has some real nutters in it that are destroying their image. Trudeau as a white supremacist being the latest blow.
Can anyone point to positive things that BLM Toronto has done? Stuff like this just makes them look insane and counterproductive.
The cause of BLM overall is a good one, but this chapter has some real nutters in it that are destroying their image. Trudeau as a white supremacist being the latest blow.
Can anyone point to positive things that BLM Toronto has done? Stuff like this just makes them look insane and counterproductive.
There's a petition going around for the electoral reform, with over 63 000 signatures so far apparently
https://petitions.parl.gc.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-616
https://petitions.parl.gc.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-616
Good Canadian boys don't throw games to get a match-up in the playoffs!
It's not terrible, it's alt-fantastic.
killer rin
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Speaking of Electoral Reform, I got another personalized email back from my Liberal MP. I'm now 3/4 on personalized replies. I'm also going to take advantage of one of the town-halls she is putting on at the schools campus to talk to her in person about it.
You know, for a good solid couple of weeks I thought that O'Toole was just slang to make fun of O'Leary.
Trudeau will (maybe?) ignore it but I'll sign it anyways.
Man, I support BLM and agree that we need to teach more about the treatment Canada's black community in school (good, bad and ugly) but statements like these hurt the cause. Stephen Bannon is the one she should be calling a white supremecist.
TheRealTalker
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thanks for the link
It's a legit petition, though.
Ok, I'm going to try to stay optimistic! Hopefully Nathan Cullen really highlights this petition, nice to see him as the sponsor.
gutter_trash
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I love Melanie Joly
If anyone is interested, O'Leary did an ama on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/5smi2e/im_kevin_oleary_and_im_running_for_leadership_of/ and with some pretty shitty answer, most of which were "economy" and "I will beat Trudeau", not really answering the harder questions.
On, nice little tidbit, as soon as he started to run, he expects people to not take what he said beforehand as himself but as his dragon persona. Fuck this piece of shit
On, nice little tidbit, as soon as he started to run, he expects people to not take what he said beforehand as himself but as his dragon persona. Fuck this piece of shit
Honestly, I thought that was to be expected. Among conservative-leaning folks I know, most seem to see him as "that tough, super successful guy from Dragon's Den" instead of "the Canadian Donald Trump" in spite of the media coverage of his antics like the aforementioned gun video.
this is completely inaccurate. My girlfriend has way longer hair than that.
TheRealTalker
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lol I love her reaction
silence for a bit and then "really?"
sometimes some people need to stop... reflect on what they just said and wonder what purpose does making shit up serve
emotion sometimes claims are reason and because of it we eventually become more focused on the anger and criticism and less about the deductions and solutions
Emperor Bohe
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signed. thanks!
gutter_trash
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Canada's population surpasses 35 million
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-2016-census-population-1.3970314
Census 2016 fun time!!! numbers!!!
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-2016-census-population-1.3970314
Census 2016 fun time!!! numbers!!!
Actually, it's probably more like 34,999,999. Pretty sure my friend/tenant got counted twice.
Slow but steady. I'll take it. That's what you get when vast amounts of your real estate are wolf and polar bear hunting grounds.
That's been a rumor for some time now, i'm surprised you haven't heard it sooner.
I lived a much happier life before finding this out, even if it is a rumor. I never want that woman in this country in any form
We're probably counting them towards the population count. Respect Wolf-Canadians and Polar-Canadians please.
Well heck, if we're going that far, let's not forget them wolverines. They're the only ones that got a super-hero named after them.
Logan-Canadians
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Canada's population growth is not slow, it's the highest in the G7. 5 percent in 5 years is a tonne for a first-world country, even if it's less growth than 2011.
gutter_trash
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http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/p...-un-discours-devant-le-parlement-europeen.php
Trudeau to address EU parliament, officially as leader of the free world
(Trump eats Putin)
Trudeau to address EU parliament, officially as leader of the free world
(Trump eats Putin)
Well, Australia did grow faster.
I favour more open borders, but I don't have any particular preference for a larger or smaller population. Although we should probably try to not let our median age get too high.
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