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Canadian PoliGAF - 42nd Parliament: Sunny Ways in Trudeaupia
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Trudeau kissing Trump ass is no surprise.
The new trade agreement with the EU is even more important now. Canada needs to separate itself from the US as much as possible. More trade options with the rest of the world is critical. The less we can be tied to the unstable american economy the better it will be for Canada.
gutter_trash
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what do you want him to do? get into a Twitter war with the next President?
Like it or not, they are our biggest trading partner and it is reality of it all.
Americans have decided to shit their bed, we stuck with smelling it all the way across the fence
Best thing to do is to keep our sanity and decency on our side while dealing with foreign assholes.
If you think that's ass kissing then you don't know what ass kissing looks like. He might have to do some ass kissing on behalf of every Canadian later when Trump will be holding scissors over NAFTA (and you will be glad that he did). But what he said now was just a benign congratulation and nothing more.
Personally I think we should look into changing our constitution for making our military for defense purposes only, like Japan.
Loosen our immigration policies. A lot of talent will look to leave the states and a lot of highly qualified immigrants will be looking for different countries to immigrate to... And start building houses/apartments/whatever at a high rate. Lower our minimum wage to attract corporations and manufacturing. Regulate housing to push prices downwards.
Let's kick our growth into overdrive and make ourselves as neutral as possible.
Plus get the voting reform through ASAP.
Loosen our immigration policies. A lot of talent will look to leave the states and a lot of highly qualified immigrants will be looking for different countries to immigrate to... And start building houses/apartments/whatever at a high rate. Lower our minimum wage to attract corporations and manufacturing. Regulate housing to push prices downwards.
Let's kick our growth into overdrive and make ourselves as neutral as possible.
Plus get the voting reform through ASAP.
Simon Belmont
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Going to guess you're not working one of those jobs.
This does not serve our interests whatsoever.
Oh good it's starting already
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/...y-websites-strewn-around-vernon-b-c-1.3842149
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/...y-websites-strewn-around-vernon-b-c-1.3842149
You only have to spend 5 minutes on r/Canada to see that it's already here and will only grow.
We thought Trump support was mostly online, but alas...
Our society has to stamp that out like a fly whenever it creeps by. I hope we're better than that but Kellie Leitch's endorsement will just empower the fringes once again.
Is this a joke? Don't underestimate the same shit that Trump sold to the rust belt working here to a degree. White Disillusionment real or perceived is a hell of a thing.
Leitch went full evil. I don't think it'll work because we're basically the US if the US was 80% Chicago, Seattle, New Orleans, and Dallas. But we're not immune to anything. Trump is Rob Ford on a much much larger scale.
We also can't sneer at and mock Leich's supporters. That is a failed strategy.
Who are her supporters primarily?
We also can't sneer at and mock Leich's supporters. That is a failed strategy.
Who are her supporters primarily?
TheRealTalker
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maybe we can sucker Trump to sell Alaska ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
of course maybe, somehow advertise a way to get all the right wingers in our country to also move to the US
of course maybe, somehow advertise a way to get all the right wingers in our country to also move to the US
Canada can take advantage of the american political situation in some spots, suffer in others. Considering all the problems with NAFTA, Trump wanting to dissolve that might be a good thing for Canada.
I think it's critical that Canadian trade becomes much more diversified. Handcuffed to the US for trade agreements has been largely dependent on geography and economics, but the world economy is evolved enough now that intercontinental trade is much easier.
We'll always have to suffer the consequences of being the neighbor to the US, but when that neighbor becomes insane, it's better to separate from that as much as possible.
Well, I intended to say most of the housing i'd want to be built would be crown owned, leverage those for manufacturing to increase GDP by allowing manufacturing workers live rent free.
$5/hr with rent free is better than $11 with rent in TO.
However I just realized automation exists and is becoming much more prevalent so this concept won't work for long.
PumpkinSpice
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No.
If you want to argue that we never should have gotten into NAFTA or the original US/CAN FTA in the first place, fine. But it ending after being status quo for 23 years will be a disaster for us.
Simon Belmont
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We're a country, not a cruise ship
I know most of us in the thread are worried about NAFTA and the short term problems that may come out if him dissolving it if that happens because the economy is important to or day to day lives. I'm a little more concerned looking in the long term if he wants to mess with NATO. If he starts demanding every NATO country pays in full or threatens to leave, where does that leave us.
Oh yah. I haven't forgotten about NATO and the USs involvement in Asia pacific. The whole world is watching this...
Yes, and we need to protect ourselves from the coming shitstorm.
People don't realize everything we stand for and everything we have fought for is at huge risk.
Our way of life is not going to last much longer.
pr0cs
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Hopefully, it's a shame this country couldn't get their shit together on the pipelines issue. Hopefully the great big orange can finally push things through.
PumpkinSpice
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NATO requirements for military expenditure could be fiddled with. We could spend money to hire people for military positions and just have them do local community service. Would actually be a decent stimulus spending.
I doubt he'd leave such vague loopholes in such negotiations, but then I don't see him succeeding since his NATO arguments aren't well thought out anyway. There are reasons certain NATO countries to have small militaries. Abe of Japan would love to have this talk though. Probably drooling over the thought
It's definitely growing. Just take for example the anti left anti pc support thats come from Professor Jordan Peterson at the University of Toronto.
PumpkinSpice
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Yeah I don't want to get too much into the mind of a madman but the NATO requirement to have 2% of GDP in military spending is what he supposedly meant, not just hitting up allies for cash.
I think we'll be fine, though he may try to stick us with the F35.
gutter_trash
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so America's loss can be a Canada win if Keystone XL is back in play.
I don't want to sound cynical but we heavily rely on our energy sector economically.
As long as it's done environmentally friendly, Keystone XL is an economic positive for Canada
I don't want to sound cynical but we heavily rely on our energy sector economically.
As long as it's done environmentally friendly, Keystone XL is an economic positive for Canada
TheRealTalker
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it is less about the pipeline that people are rioting about but more so the whole idea of fracking and tar-sands
To me the fracking is definitely a problem, not the pipeline
TheRealTalker
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indeed, if there was a better method to extract that oil then there would be less opposition
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I hope this election lets our government and people shore up against the threat of the alt-right and fundamentalist right. Justin, be my hero.
How environmentally friendly are the Trudeau Liberals when push comes to shove, because the pres-elect has already said he'd basically kill the EPA. I don't know if this'll be as big an issue as we'd hope
Fracking is not that bad, most of the problems are local and are improving due to increased regulation (although, that might go out the window now) so it won't affect us.
I mean, I wish we would move away from oil much faster altogether, but there are worse problems.
I mean, I wish we would move away from oil much faster altogether, but there are worse problems.
That's definitely my greatest anxiety. NATO, Syria and Russia.
killer rin
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Now more than ever we need to be pushing for Electoral Reform. That is the only way we can safeguard our country in the long-term
TheRealTalker
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yeah like coal or what not
but fracking also puts chemicals into the ground that are hard to breakdown
again if they find some method that is less harmful for our lands then go ahead and do it is what I say
This is inevitable. People will try to follow Trump's path and strategy. We can only hope Canadians aren't as easily deluded.
How does a former Minister for the Status of Women" from the previous Conservative government play the outsider card?
I do hope both the country, but also the Cons as a party reject her bullshit and anything else she picks up from Trump.
He's at least been a sitting politician, and the son of the country's most well known/[loved?] PM. Anyone who sees him only as a celeb should be happy it's not Mulroney's kid running for office.
Exactly. I hope Trudeau is legit shook enough to get the ball rolling on electoral reform.
gutter_trash
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Canada's advantage is the we have 3 years left to witness Trump implode and fail.
Brexit and Trump were less than 6 months apart.
3 years is an eternity and enough time for Trump to get impeached, indicted or implode
pr0cs
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Won't happen in our lifetime. Contrary to popular belief, at least on this forum, oil is used by a LOT of industry outside of vehicles.
We are tied to oil for the foreseeable future.
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