Capcom teases new PS4 game

Take DMC4's combat engine and infuse everything else with what made DMC3 great. Problem solved. (I know it's not that easy).
Most of what made DMC3 great was the combat and DMC4 has that already. The enemy/level design they need to be taking cues from DMC1. Story and character strength they can take from DMC3 (aka bring Vergil da gawd back) but that's about it.

My point is that they should be using DMC5 to improve upon the actual faults of the series. Deliver better enemy AI for god's sake. Please rid us of the PS2 era level designs. The combat in a DMC game isn't dated but a lot of other things are. DmC tried to rectify some problems, they were able to fix the camera and basic Dante jump controls but didn't fix stuff like enemy AI or the PS2 era level design (hell DmC is even more linear than fucking DMC1).

And please no god damn backtracking. At least DmC got that right.
 
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this pleaseeeeeeeeeee, i think its time for anew DMC (no ninja theory pls)
 
Most of what made DMC3 great was the combat and DMC4 has that already. The enemy/level design they need to be taking cues from DMC1. Story and character strength they can take from DMC3 (aka bring Vergil da gawd back) but that's about it.

My point is that they should be using DMC5 to improve upon the actual faults of the series. Deliver better enemy AI for god's sake. Please rid us of the PS2 era level designs. The combat in a DMC game isn't dated but a lot of other things are. DmC tried to rectify some problems, they were able to fix the camera and basic Dante jump controls but didn't fix stuff like enemy AI or the PS2 era level design (hell DmC is even more linear than fucking DMC1).

And please no god damn backtracking. At least DmC got that right.

Unless you wanted to 100% the game, of course.

I'm honestly okay with backtracking if it makes sense. DMC3 got away with it because the whole game takes place in one giant tower.
 
Capcom could make this announcement so excited for everyone, they have so many IPs that can break down Gaf in seconds when they announce it, yet they never do that anymore (recently).
 
Real talk - as much of a Platinum fanboy as I am I'd rather see Itsuno's Capcom team handle DMC5 over Platinum. I prefer Itsuno's DMC over Kamiya's DMC
and Bayonetta
.

Platinum needs to stay free to make Metal Gear Rising 2 anyway.

I'm a PG fanboy, i agree that Itsuno's DMC > Kamiya's DMC (but not really Bayonetta :P)

Also it would take a boatload of money and a line of seppukus from Capcom to cleanse their shame and make PG work with Capcom again XD
 
Unless you wanted to 100% the game, of course.

I'm honestly okay with backtracking if it makes sense. DMC3 got away with it because the whole game takes place in one giant tower.
It made sense in DMC4 too (you were playing different character) but it's still awful. The parts you backtracked in DMC3 were the weakest parts in the game... the act between the 2nd Vergil fight and the Doppelganger fight which is objectively the worst act in DMC3. DMC3 got away with it because it was a godly game with a godly opener and ender but let's not pretend the game's campaign was without faults.

Get rid of that shit please.
 
Real talk - as much of a Platinum fanboy as I am I'd rather see Itsuno's Capcom team handle DMC5 over Platinum. I prefer Itsuno's DMC over Kamiya's DMC
and Bayonetta
.

Platinum needs to stay free to make Metal Gear Rising 2 anyway.

What about Hashimoto, though? Bayonetta 2 improved upon all the flaws 1 had.
 
It made sense in DMC4 too (you were playing different character) but it's still awful. The parts you backtracked in DMC3 were the weakest parts in the game... the part between the 2nd Vergil fight and the Doppelganger fight which is objectively the worst act in DMC3.

Get rid of that shit please.

Absolutely, there is no need for it.
 
It made sense in DMC4 too (you were playing different character) but it's still awful. The parts you backtracked in DMC3 were the weakest parts in the game... the act between the 2nd Vergil fight and the Doppelganger fight which is objectively the worst act in DMC3. DMC3 got away with it because it was a godly game with a godly opener and ender but let's not pretend the game's campaign was without faults.

Get rid of that shit please.

I didn't mind those parts (hell I don't mind DMC4's backtracking since it's entirely Dante showing up everyone), but I wouldn't shed a tear if they were gone and replaced with something better.

What about Hashimoto, though? Bayonetta 2 improved upon all the flaws 1 had.

100% agree. Bayo 2 is superior in pretty much every way.
 
Hashimoto's Bayo wouldn't exist without Kamiya's Bayo and Bayo 2 mechanically didn't add much to the table... it was just a highly polished sequel (which is no easy feat still in this industry).

Hashimoto would've been ideal for DMC2 or even right after DMC3 but DMC in its current state needs something more ambitious to make its come back.
 
I'm not sure I want a Dino Crisis from current Capcom. Without Mikami it would just be another Resident Evil 6.

Mikami was not involved in Dino Crisis 2.

Shu Takumi was lead planner on DC1 and director on DC2. He's most responsible for both of their greatness.
 
Hashimoto's Bayo wouldn't exist without Kamiya's Bayo and Bayo 2 mechanically didn't add much to the table... it was just a highly polished sequel (which is no easy feat still in this industry).

Hashimoto would've been ideal for DMC2 or even right after DMC3 but DMC in its current state needs something more ambitious to make its come back.

Bayo 2 added significantly better boss battles, which were the worst thing about Bayo 1 in my opinion.

Ambition is kind of what lead to DmC though. I have enough faith in Itsuno with DMC though. He could have simply rested on his success after DMC3 and not updated anything with Dante's gameplay in DMC4 (and I wouldn't have blamed him, DMC3 is god-tier). But instead he pushed forward and DMC4's Dante combat is arguably better than 3. Improvements to the core gameplay weren't the issue with DMC4 at all. I think he would continue the upward trend with DMC5.
 
Hashimoto's Bayo wouldn't exist without Kamiya's Bayo and Bayo 2 mechanically didn't add much to the table... it was just a highly polished sequel (which is no easy feat still in this industry).

Hashimoto would've been ideal for DMC2 or even right after DMC3 but DMC in its current state needs something more ambitious to make its come back.

Agreed on both, and especially concerning the second part, which is on topic, i agree that Itsuno X DMC just by itself means nothing, what i mean, and i think everyone means when they ask for an Itsuno DMC is to have a modern character action game, with the experience Itsuno has gathered, and the examples the genre has presented in the meantime, mostly thanks to PG. A better looking DMC4 released in 2015 would mean nothing.

Ambition is kind of what lead to DmC though. I have enough faith in Itsuno with DMC though. He could have simply rested on his success after DMC3 and not updated anything with Dante's gameplay in DMC4 (and I wouldn't have blamed him, DMC3 is god-tier). But instead he pushed forward and DMC4's Dante combat is arguably better than 3. Improvements to the core gameplay weren't the issue with DMC4 at all. I think he would continue the upward trend with DMC5.

This too.
 
Please be Okami 2...I would die happy

Ohh yes please. Okami 2 with crisp 1080p art would be incredible. Just don't make it as bloated as the first game.

Okami 2 plz

Can you imagine Okami next gen in glorious 1080 p??? The previous game was already beautiful Okami 2 needs to happen!

If Okami 2 happens I will run to Osaka, barefoot. It has to be Platinum's Okami 2 though. Okami is not Okami without Kamiya and his team.

Okami ending spoilers:
Issun promised us more tales of Amaterasu :(( I'm still waiting :((
 
If Okami 2 happens I will run to Osaka, barefoot. It has to be Platinum's Okami 2 though. Okami is not Okami without Kamiya and his team.

Okami ending spoilers:
Issun promised us more tales of Amaterasu :(( I'm still waiting :((
I'll go even further I'd swim naked all the way to Japan and get an Okami tattoo on my forehead
No I wouldn't.. Hahaha
 
I think when an action game reachs a pretty solid system it's very difficult to improve it without the risk of damaging that balance:see Bayo2 for example,it polishes Bayo1 formula to the max but without "revolutionary" changes, there's no need for that. DMC4 Dante combat engine is the same situation, as for Nero i can see him getting his own "styles" system based on Devil Bringer(Devil Bringer's version of Trickster,Gunslinger,Swordmaster and Royal Guard).
DMC4 is a good game but it feels "incomplete" , i like to consider it as Itsuno's introduction to future godlike DMC5, but a story mode divided between Dante and Nero ended up limiting both of them.
 
God damn it now I am getting hyped over games that don't exist.

Time to play some Dragon Age, a game which actually exists... :/
 
I think when an action game reachs a pretty solid system it's very difficult to improve it without the risk of damaging that balance:see Bayo2 for example,it polishes Bayo1 formula to the max but without "revolutionary" changes, there's no need for that. .

That was the plan of Hashimoto and his team for the sequel. I said this already in the OT but Bayo 2 is what Hashimoto probably had in mind while working on 1. He said in an recent interview should Bayonetta 3 ever exist, it would be a revolution this time, to justify another entry.

That said I would be okay with another Itsuno DMC.
 
That was the plan of Hashimoto and his team for the sequel. I said this already in the OT but Bayo 2 is what Hashimoto probably had in mind while working on 1. He said in an recent interview should Bayonetta 3 ever exist, it would be a revolution this time, to justify another entry.

That said I would be okay with another Itsuno DMC.
That makes me happy and also interested in Bayo 3 greatly, if it's made.
 
So I am back to square one...here I was thinking the mega-bomb was a SCEJ game but it might still be the Capcom game after all...

Hype train never stops.
 
That was the plan of Hashimoto and his team for the sequel. I said this already in the OT but Bayo 2 is what Hashimoto probably had in mind while working on 1. He said in an recent interview should Bayonetta 3 ever exist, it would be a revolution this time, to justify another entry.

That said I would be okay with another Itsuno DMC.

After playing Bayo 2 i'm so curious to see a new Hashimoto project.
 
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