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Reading reviews on this film just reminds me that many critics are inane fools. Not for their quality of writing, opinion or ratings of this film.. or any films. That's their job, give us their opinion. No, my problems is SPOILING the film in a fucking review. I have had probably 5 major plot points spoiled in reviews 3 reviews alone. I can't believe what they were thinking when they wrote these. I am starting to believe they just do this to screw with people who care about such things.
 
If Thor 2 could get nearly $650 million from an Avengers bump, I expect this movie to get more than that since the word of mouth on this one seems way better. $700+ million seems reasonable to me.
 
Thor 2 did $644,612,726 worldwide.

Are we expecting Cap to do higher than that? I think $700 million would be incredible.
 
Thor 2 did $644,612,726 worldwide.

Are we expecting Cap to do higher than that? I think $700 million would be incredible.
Keep in mind that Thor 2 came out in November. Not only does Cap 2 have a better release date in terms of potential profits, but it also has insanely good word of mouth.
 
i am really hyped to see this movie. The first movie i enjoyed a lot despite being pretty much carried to the theater kicking and screaming. The word of mouth is getting to me. There is no way it can fulfill expectations now lol
 

holy fuck.

to think i haven't seen anything yet.

I have to wait another week.

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fuck.
 
Saw an advance screening ahead of the Australian release on April 3. Very happy with how it turned out :-). Can see why they pressed ahead with planning Captain America 3 - they are on a winning formula.

I don't think i will see too many more movies at the cinema due to the high price, the dvd/blu-ray combo pack will end up being cheaper than a cinema visit.
 
Easily one of the best in the canon and deserving of the rave reviews. Good story with excellent character beats, an antagaonist that feels dangerous and the best hand to hand combat in a big Hollywood blockbuster in a long, long time. Sets the bar high for the other superhero movies this year.
 
I saw this movie last friday at night.

My god its awesome!
I feel I'll just repeat the other members who have already seen it, but the fight choreography was outstanding, action pieces and pacing was masterfully done.

Also, I live on a very strange world when I can say with a straight face: "Falcon rocks!!!"

All characters have many times to show just how badass they are.
Great movie :D
 
It was all right. Not exactly a shining example of good action and storytelling and it was unbelievably predictable though the whole way through. Shaky cam to the extreme as well. A 10 second fight has like six different camera angles, all while shaking like crazy (not all of them, mind you. Some were pretty great). Guess it's hard to make well-choreographed action scenes these days.

Went in with rather low expectations (because it's a non-avengers marvel flick) and was rather pleased.

Really?
I found the action scenes very easy to follow and well shot.
All they require of you is to have good reflexes because they move so fast that a single second look away makes you lose something cool like the Winter Soldier switching hands on his knife on a fight.
 
So excited to see this! Ordered my tickets already and I'm heading to a Thursday night premiere with around 5-8 friends. The wait is the worst part given how spoilers run rampant with these movies, but at least it is only 1 week.
 
Really?
I found the action scenes very easy to follow and well shot.
All they require of you is to have good reflexes because they move so fast that a single second look away makes you lose something cool like the Winter Soldier switching hands on his knife on a fight.

Absolutely agree. The hand-to-hand combat in this movie is beyond anything ever seen in superhero movies: spot-on speed, spot-on framing of the action, exceptional camera and sound work to convey the "power" of the hits.
The way Cap coordinates his attacks while using the shield as both defence and offence looks like straight from a Capcom game. I'm amazed that two guys who worked on something like Arrested Development would "grow up" to be such excellent action directors.
 
Absolutely agree. The hand-to-hand combat in this movie is beyond anything ever seen in superhero movies: spot-on speed, spot-on framing of the action, exceptional camera and sound work to convey the "power" of the hits.
The way Cap coordinates his attacks while using the shield as both defence and offence looks like straight from a Capcom game. I'm amazed that two guys who worked on something like Arrested Development would "grow up" to be such excellent action directors.
If we're talking the MvC games, then GODDAMN!
 
I disagree that the movie is predictable. While it has a relatively straightforward fourth act, the setup involved to actually getting there involves some of the biggest curveballs thrown as far as Marvel movies go. If the arguably "predictable" moments of this movie have to be seen as a bad thing then I'd like to know why Iron Man and Avengers are still considered by many to be the best MCU movies or even super hero movies in general.

As far as ramifications go and things actually happening in the plot, this is a movie that shakes up the foundation of the MCU pretty well, both going into the movie and going out of it. The segments that don't focus on a constantly developing plot are either balanced out by some stellar character chemistry or some of the best action cinematography a super hero movie can provide.
 
Reading reviews on this film just reminds me that many critics are inane fools. Not for their quality of writing, opinion or ratings of this film.. or any films. That's their job, give us their opinion. No, my problems is SPOILING the film in a fucking review. I have had probably 5 major plot points spoiled in reviews 3 reviews alone. I can't believe what they were thinking when they wrote these. I am starting to believe they just do this to screw with people who care about such things.
The review in today's Sunday Times was a textbook example of this. It's about a paragraph long and manages to reveal pretty much every plotpoint in the film in a tone of snobbish disdain.
 
I'm excited for this, especially coming off Thor 2 which is one of the shittiest movies I've seen in recent memory. Easily one of the most overblown, rushed, pointless sequels I've seen in quite some time. This sounds like the exact opposite.
 
I'm excited for this, especially coming off Thor 2 which is one of the shittiest movies I've seen in recent memory. Easily one of the most overblown, rushed, pointless sequels I've seen in quite some time. This sounds like the exact opposite.

Yeah, in Thor 2, supposedly the stakes are higher (the whole universe is supposed to be destroyed by Malekith), but it feels so lightweight and inconsequential compared to what happens in Cap 2.
 
Good but it sucks that its less than Thor The Dark World's overseas opening.

This movie will have longer legs than IM3 and Dark World. It just needs to get the word out. Internationally, Cap is seen as a little bit of a silly propaganda thing, outside of the core fans. The character is far better than that, but it has that hill to climb to convince people. Thor had a great international cast and a fantasy setting, and Iron Man had wizbang tech and RDJ, who is very popular with international audiences.
 
This movie will have longer legs than IM3 and Dark World. It just needs to get the word out. Internationally, Cap is seen as a little bit of a silly propaganda thing, outside of the core fans. The character is far better than that, but it has that hill to climb to convince people. Thor had a great international cast and a fantasy setting, and Iron Man had wizbang tech and RDJ, who is very popular with international audiences.

Captain America : TFA did better internationally, which I found quite surprising.
 
Just saw it, I thought it was great. The action was the best of any Marvel film yet, and the plot was actually engaging and mattered. Most importantly, well, it felt important, this film completely changes the landscape of the films.
 
Which could almost not be called curveballs at all. What exactly surprised you, if I may ask? What did you not see coming? I'll agree with your ramifications argument, however. My issue was never that it didn't have impact, it was that nothing surprised me.

Also, I'm still trying to figure out how this movie has brilliant action cinematography. I found its quality to range from excellent to weak, rather than consistently excellent.

Getting into that is basically spoiler territory and I don't want to do that in this topic. But suffice it to say who the villains are and what they accomplish throughout the first half of the movie really came out of the left field for me. One of the big twists gives a whole plethora of context to the preceding MCU movies and I really felt that was pulled off with flying colors. Considering how many audience murmurs I kept picking up during some surprise key scenes, I don't feel I'm necessarily alone in thinking that.
 
I thoroughly enjoyed it, much better than Thor 2 and I'd say it's on par with Avengers.

If I had one issue, it's that it felt more like a Black Widow movie with Cap as a supporting character. She has just as much screen time and has the more interesting moments throughout the movie. Winter Soldier looks so badass on screen, was a little concerned when the on set pics leaked, but it looks damn good in action.

Overall, great movie.

Oh and the GoTG trailer got a massive pop from the audience. Seems there's quite a bit of hype for that one...which I was really surprised by.
 
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