Jest Chillin
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Dies Iræ;107860977 said:
Yup. I took it more as a statement as to the two of them being the only ones to survive the experiment being a "miracle."
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Captain America: The Winter Soldier SPOILER THREAD | ...does anyone want to get out?
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Yup. I took it more as a statement as to the two of them being the only ones to survive the experiment being a "miracle."
tokyo slim
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Winterfang
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Saw the movie today, easily top 3 Marvel movies. Top 1 in the action department, I had actually being told to keep quiet because of out of control my excitement was. The theater clapped and cheered at the end of the movie.
TDW is okay, worth a rent I'd suppose. Still good to watch it just for the events that happen within the MCU anyways. I liked it mainly for Eccleston though.
Cause it was the only time in November where I could see him in something 
Winterfang
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Is pretty good, funnier than original, better action scenes also. Now OMG amazing like this one though.
Winterfang
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So if they are using Mutants (correct me if I'm wrong but that coke up twin is going to be in the X-men movie right)? What is stopping Marvel for using Wolverine and Spiderman in avengers two? Just give then a recolor.
Hours Left
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It's a good movie, and it sets up some pretty interesting events for future films.
QS and SW had been original members of the Avengers, they were latter retconected to be magneto's kids (and mutants for that matter, also they appeared before as members of the brotherhood. So they're in both teams (Avengers and Xmen/mutants) so they (Mahvel and fox) can use them.
EDIT: Beaten like Sitwell, and with a chart too!!
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Yeah, it's alright. Fun enough flick.
Hours Left
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Why does Universal have Namor again? Just give him back already!
Wag
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So mutants don't exist in this universe?
Winterfang
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Does that mean we can have wolverine.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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The Broken Ska Record
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Which Infinity gem is the Tesseract supposed to be? Power or Space?
Now I want a Marvel helmed Namor movie.
Now I want a Marvel helmed Namor movie.
Space. The aether is power.
Yes. Mahvel is packed with chars dor mocies up to 2028
Hours Left
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I would die. I need it.
Cast the smuggest, sassiest hollywood beefcake, squeeze him into a pair of green speedos, and watch him pimp slap the hell out of everyone else.
Of course they couldn't call him Spider-Man, but can't Marvel make a movie with Miles Morales, since he was created after the contract they signed with Sony?
They could always use the D-Man
Agreed. Mutants are so bloated in the comics, it is no wonder that Marvel kind of keeps the mutant aspect of things in its own little bubble aside from a few cross over events. The non mutant Marvel Universe actually works a lot better without Mutant gumming everything up constantly, and the universe as a whole works well with a soft separation between the two.
BobbyRobby
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Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch first appearred in X-Men #4. Were they not said to be Magnetos kid then?
I don't know pre-Claremont X-Men really.
A quick glance at Wikipedia suggests that that wasn't revealed until 1983.
Older than Steve Rogers.
No, they were just two members of the Brotherhood of Mutants, and not very well defined.
Alcoremortis
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If you like Loki, you should see it.
BobbyRobby
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Thanks. So they appeared in X-Men first and were always mutants. I thought Fox owned Marvel mutants, but I guess it's not that simple.
Beast was a pretty prominent Avenger too for a while. I wonder if they'd be able to use him.
Or Rogue who was an Avengers villian.
Or Juggernaut who is an X-Men villian but not mutant.
It's interesting how the law is being interpreted here, and I find the idea of lawyers holed up in a room somewhere debating Marvel canon really funny.
George Oscar Bluth II
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I have no idea who owns the Shi'ar. I'm guessing Fox, but I don't know.
Alcoremortis
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Really, Loki had all the character growth in Thor 2. I think he was the secret main character, just based on how most of the stuff in the movie affected him more than Thor.
I think with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch it depends on just how prominently they were featured in the Avengers. They may have debuted in X-Men, but they only featured in five issues before being added to the Avengers.
While Rogue and Beast have had similar cross-over it's not been anywhere as big.
Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were specifically named when Marvel signed over the X-Men rights to Fox. No other mutants are up for use, unless Fox allows it, and I doubt they ever will.
This discussion boils my blood. My hopes are that, after Days of Future Past and Spidey 2 releases, the gulf in quality becomes so apparent, at least in terms of characterizations and world-building, that an internet outrage transpires and places pressure on FOX/SONY to work something reasonable out with Marvel to allow them use of those properties. I'm honestly of the mind of boycotting anything FOX/SONY does with the properties at this point.
Winter Soldier/Avengers set the bar so high, it's made me realize how absolutely pointless anticipating any of those releases are. They aren't "really" X-Men and it's not "really" Spiderman. Among those worlds are some of my favorite characters, generally, and not being able to see them get the treatment they deserve is really frustrating.
This probably comes across as some daft, fanboy raving to some, but I can't imagine at least one other person out there doesn't feel this way.
Winter Soldier/Avengers set the bar so high, it's made me realize how absolutely pointless anticipating any of those releases are. They aren't "really" X-Men and it's not "really" Spiderman. Among those worlds are some of my favorite characters, generally, and not being able to see them get the treatment they deserve is really frustrating.
This probably comes across as some daft, fanboy raving to some, but I can't imagine at least one other person out there doesn't feel this way.
You just have to take things as they are. I'm more appreciative that we're getting anything like this at all.
Winterfang
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Who wrote and coordinate the fights in this movie? Compared to avengers, I honestly though the action was superior to it, the freaking Falcon had a better flying action scene than Iron Man
ohhthegore
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that's not saying much
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It looked fine actually.
Winterfang
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Man, when the captain stopped an airplane by himself with just a shield and guts it blew my mind. The girl I was watching with it, was like Captain America is so lame (because he is an awkward, dork for the 50s that can't get a date), then after that shot, she was like "I take it back"
Marvel should just show that chart before every movie as a PSA due to how many people are confused on the property rights lol.