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Castle |OT| It is okay to have a man-crush on Nathan Fillion
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HollovVpo1nt
Banned
Funny, the swings is where Castle and Beckett made up last season (or two seasons back).
Certainly an odd finale, The question at the end wasn't all that surprising either. It does make you wonder where they will take season 6.
I can only assume she says yes but also yes to the job in DC, More of a trial run which is what part of S6 will be about. Them trying to do the long distance (although i doubt it really is) relationship.
To me, Kate is a great detective but with Castle by her side she excels. I get the feeling that will be played out in S6 as well, Ultimately making her come back to homicide or Castle somehow getting a gig with her in DC.
Still, Cliffhangers, Eh. I love them and hate them. I guess the next season will be in sept .. Not too long D:
I can only assume she says yes but also yes to the job in DC, More of a trial run which is what part of S6 will be about. Them trying to do the long distance (although i doubt it really is) relationship.
To me, Kate is a great detective but with Castle by her side she excels. I get the feeling that will be played out in S6 as well, Ultimately making her come back to homicide or Castle somehow getting a gig with her in DC.
Still, Cliffhangers, Eh. I love them and hate them. I guess the next season will be in sept .. Not too long D:
That was a shity ending. It looked like he was forced to do it and not like he wanted it.
And Castle shouldn't behave so whiny all the time something's not perfect, it's little annoying. Where is the charmer from earlier seasons, even the first episodes of this one? EDIT: Oh and why couldn't he just move to DC with her? It's not like anything keeps him in NY, not his daughter anyway. He is a millionaire, right?
And Castle shouldn't behave so whiny all the time something's not perfect, it's little annoying. Where is the charmer from earlier seasons, even the first episodes of this one? EDIT: Oh and why couldn't he just move to DC with her? It's not like anything keeps him in NY, not his daughter anyway. He is a millionaire, right?
mugurumakensei
Member
Dallas Castle fans should go to Dallas Comic Con this weekend as Castle himself will be there.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Man that was one of the most disappointing finals I have seen in a while.
Gotta agree, they have had great season finales but this wasn't one.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Yeah, this season was great besides that though.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Agreed on both counts. The entire season felt like it was firing on all cylinders. Effortless fun and charm. The ending felt incredibly forced. Like they were trying too hard.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Shut up, we need the epic fineness of Stana Katic.
Weird finale. Castle just looked angry and disappointed as he proposed. That was really fucking weird.
HollovVpo1nt
Banned
He did, but I think that was the point. I think he was trying to come across as serious about the commitment. I think he got the feeling from Stana that she never beleived in their long term relationship, so he proposed with that "what now bitch" look, as if he pinned her down.
AuthenticM
Member
Of COURSE it was going to end with a proposal. 
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
It looked fairly murderous.
HollovVpo1nt
Banned
It did. That's why Castle will be even more furious when se says no, because he will then see that she never was comitted, regardless of the proposal. Maybe Castle is fishing for a no from her, like he's trying to prove a point.
from reading reviews analysis of the show, this is going to be a bit "weird"
castle and beckett BOTH have 2 "modes" of personality
rick has the "rick mode" and the "castle Mode"
Castle mode is the 9 year old on a sugar rush, the playboy, the fun guy.
the Rick mode is the insecure abandonment issue, serious guy, who has been hurt by Every personal relationship he has had- Kyra- left him, Meredith cheated on him- gina (not sure) etc.. he shows up when it's Serious time.. knockdown- its Rick that pummels lockwood, in Target, its Rick in the bedroom with the driver not "castle".
beckett has the "kate mode" and the "Beckett Mode"
Kate mode is the repressed personality, she is the playful one, she is the "biggest scofflaw at high school" she is the one that planned the birthday for the person she loves, she loves deeply, she cares, and she gets scared...
Beckett mode is...the emotionless super-cop that protects the kate mode from being hurt emotionally, beckett mode came because of her moms death... beckett is the protector, the one that breaks off relationships so that "kate" doesn't get hurt emotionally.
Castle has spent 4 years breaking thru the walls and letting - after 12 years- the kate mode be "released" from the cage, and truly "love"
the episode Still triggered Beckett mode's protection protocols.. she got scared at the depth of Castle's commitment, yet they do not talk about it, so she got scared and withdrew, as her father says, she always breaks things off before they get too serious...
assuming they show in the right order--
squab's temptation by vaughn, was part of the protection protocols, he was not Castle, cheating on castle= ending relationship, being "safe" emotionally= "kate" safe, however "Kate" interfered - thus the push away.
human factor, kate is more and more secretive, more "supercop" than we have seen ALL year, WAY worse than season 1, she is acting different, she is doing this because with the last attempt to remedy the "potential heartache" failed, more drastic measures were called for.
the bipolarity is evident in her demeanor, how she talks, walks, kate talking is warm, soft, caring, Beckett talking is, hard, driven, emotionless.
now we get watershed.
beckett mode in overdrive in washington, beckett keeping secrets, doing things TO sabotage the relationship. Castle finds out and is justifiably upset about her going to washington without talking about it.
the interview in the interrogation room is the pivot, it is the point where people disagree, those ascribing to the "not taking the job" aspect say that is where she realized that the job was just hiding, just running away from the relationship...
beckett mode never apologizes.
when castle interrupts kate- which he rarely does, with the let me finish bit- he is deadly serious, he is not CASTLE, the playboy, he is rick.
he isn't looking deadly, he is nervous, he is scared, he HAS THE RING ON HIM, who here WASN'T nervous when proposing to his girlfriend, i sure was.
Beckett thinks when he goes i want more, we deserve more, she thinks breakup is coming, not proposal.
castle and beckett BOTH have 2 "modes" of personality
rick has the "rick mode" and the "castle Mode"
Castle mode is the 9 year old on a sugar rush, the playboy, the fun guy.
the Rick mode is the insecure abandonment issue, serious guy, who has been hurt by Every personal relationship he has had- Kyra- left him, Meredith cheated on him- gina (not sure) etc.. he shows up when it's Serious time.. knockdown- its Rick that pummels lockwood, in Target, its Rick in the bedroom with the driver not "castle".
beckett has the "kate mode" and the "Beckett Mode"
Kate mode is the repressed personality, she is the playful one, she is the "biggest scofflaw at high school" she is the one that planned the birthday for the person she loves, she loves deeply, she cares, and she gets scared...
Beckett mode is...the emotionless super-cop that protects the kate mode from being hurt emotionally, beckett mode came because of her moms death... beckett is the protector, the one that breaks off relationships so that "kate" doesn't get hurt emotionally.
Castle has spent 4 years breaking thru the walls and letting - after 12 years- the kate mode be "released" from the cage, and truly "love"
the episode Still triggered Beckett mode's protection protocols.. she got scared at the depth of Castle's commitment, yet they do not talk about it, so she got scared and withdrew, as her father says, she always breaks things off before they get too serious...
assuming they show in the right order--
squab's temptation by vaughn, was part of the protection protocols, he was not Castle, cheating on castle= ending relationship, being "safe" emotionally= "kate" safe, however "Kate" interfered - thus the push away.
human factor, kate is more and more secretive, more "supercop" than we have seen ALL year, WAY worse than season 1, she is acting different, she is doing this because with the last attempt to remedy the "potential heartache" failed, more drastic measures were called for.
the bipolarity is evident in her demeanor, how she talks, walks, kate talking is warm, soft, caring, Beckett talking is, hard, driven, emotionless.
now we get watershed.
beckett mode in overdrive in washington, beckett keeping secrets, doing things TO sabotage the relationship. Castle finds out and is justifiably upset about her going to washington without talking about it.
the interview in the interrogation room is the pivot, it is the point where people disagree, those ascribing to the "not taking the job" aspect say that is where she realized that the job was just hiding, just running away from the relationship...
beckett mode never apologizes.
when castle interrupts kate- which he rarely does, with the let me finish bit- he is deadly serious, he is not CASTLE, the playboy, he is rick.
he isn't looking deadly, he is nervous, he is scared, he HAS THE RING ON HIM, who here WASN'T nervous when proposing to his girlfriend, i sure was.
Beckett thinks when he goes i want more, we deserve more, she thinks breakup is coming, not proposal.
Edag Plata
Banned
tl;dr version:
Both Castle and Beckett have feelings don't want to share with people so they put up walls.
Both Castle and Beckett have feelings don't want to share with people so they put up walls.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
That was... a pretty good analysis.
So the Senator is scared that Castle and Beckett together is a formula that will end up bringing him down eventually, and the invitation to DC is simply his way to break them up. Right?
Once Beckett finds this out (after like 2-3 episodes of angst at the beginning of the new season), she'll be devastated because she thought she got the job on her merits. At that point, it's emotionally damaged Beckett back on the job in NYC with Castle and the team. She has to be nursed back to confidence, and the next season ends with a series finale marriage.
Seems pretty straightforward.
Once Beckett finds this out (after like 2-3 episodes of angst at the beginning of the new season), she'll be devastated because she thought she got the job on her merits. At that point, it's emotionally damaged Beckett back on the job in NYC with Castle and the team. She has to be nursed back to confidence, and the next season ends with a series finale marriage.
Seems pretty straightforward.
jvm that is one theory that bracken is behind it.
the AG is a political appointee.. bracken is tight with the current administration= potentially he is behind it...
other possibility is Smith is behind it (assuming that his death WAS staged like some people think (me being one)
or we are looking too much for a conspiracy where there is none.
what i want to know is why did the AG investigator have a Silencer on his Gun......
the AG is a political appointee.. bracken is tight with the current administration= potentially he is behind it...
other possibility is Smith is behind it (assuming that his death WAS staged like some people think (me being one)
or we are looking too much for a conspiracy where there is none.
what i want to know is why did the AG investigator have a Silencer on his Gun......
SpideySenses
Member
I thought the added clipshow episode really screwed with the dynamics of the finale, you can try to rationalise that Castle really believed that the bomb would never go off but there's no way he could, the guy was willing to die with the person he loved. And then a couple episodes later, they try to play the card of how serious they are, if they have a future, it just doesn't ring true, especially in such close proximity.
spidey re-read what i posted and rewatch the diner scene
Still..Scared her so much that she pulled away from Castle- what castle did in still -said , i want to be with you until death do us part.
this is the woman that according to her father cannot commit to a long term relationship, she always- ALWAYS - ended relationships before they got too serious.
so she pulled away the past 3 episodes..to end the relationship-all subconsciously.
Still..Scared her so much that she pulled away from Castle- what castle did in still -said , i want to be with you until death do us part.
this is the woman that according to her father cannot commit to a long term relationship, she always- ALWAYS - ended relationships before they got too serious.
so she pulled away the past 3 episodes..to end the relationship-all subconsciously.
No finale talk?
It felt like a play on that recent case where the girl ended up in the water tower.
It felt like a play on that recent case where the girl ended up in the water tower.
The dead girls friend said she saw the dead girl fighting with guy.
They find dead girls computer with a message saying to meet dead guy.
They said dead guy is dead before the meet.
Did girl that said she saw the fight lie?
They find dead girls computer with a message saying to meet dead guy.
They said dead guy is dead before the meet.
Did girl that said she saw the fight lie?
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
They ever solve the Elisa Lam case?
budding politician's stepbrother did it on orders from said stepbrother
he rolled on said stepbrother for all the deaths/killing orders
lawyer and the main case of the week murders and the accidental death of her friend in the car crash (that said politician was driving for)
anyone else think there was someone else in the office of the AG guy when he called to say she got the job? my guess there was, and it was bracken but
production crew is on set building season 6 stuff, filming starts in like 3 weeks
he rolled on said stepbrother for all the deaths/killing orders
lawyer and the main case of the week murders and the accidental death of her friend in the car crash (that said politician was driving for)
anyone else think there was someone else in the office of the AG guy when he called to say she got the job? my guess there was, and it was bracken but
production crew is on set building season 6 stuff, filming starts in like 3 weeks
brucewaynegretzky
Member
So I'm working through S5 now (didn't watch as it aired) and I'm on the "documentary" episode. Dear god this is painful to watch.
Edag Plata
Banned
Painful?
brucewaynegretzky
Member
That episode was SO bad! Watching everyone act like a moron for the camera ruined the whole episode.
you want news.......
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ok you asked for it DO NOT CLICK ON THE SPOILER IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO RUIN THE SURPRISE,, you HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!
do you REAAAAAALLLY want news?
ok you asked for it DO NOT CLICK ON THE SPOILER IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO RUIN THE SURPRISE,, you HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!!
beckett takes the job in washington, & she says YES to Castle, so they are engaged to be married.
side note: marlowe had them buy 5 copies of the engagement ring- ring cost ~20k each
Alexis beings a guy home from costa rica- he moves in to castle's loft, guys name is PI
lisa edelstein is a fed agent named mccord, beckett is working with for the first 3 episodes of the season
new detective- think it is at the 12th- is named sullivan
and yes i am pathetic that i know all that already.
side note: marlowe had them buy 5 copies of the engagement ring- ring cost ~20k each
Alexis beings a guy home from costa rica- he moves in to castle's loft, guys name is PI
lisa edelstein is a fed agent named mccord, beckett is working with for the first 3 episodes of the season
new detective- think it is at the 12th- is named sullivan
and yes i am pathetic that i know all that already.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
I foresee great comedy from the Alexis one.
trailers for the premiere are out.
2nd one has what LOOKS like beckett's immediate reaction to the proposal...
trailer 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze96-bXCpjM
trailer 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNDM5_tJCTY
2nd one has what LOOKS like beckett's immediate reaction to the proposal...
she jumps out of the swing and loudly whispers "OH MY GOD YOUR PROPOSING?!?!"
trailer 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze96-bXCpjM
trailer 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNDM5_tJCTY
That kind of reads like I am a woman haha. I'm also male but noticed how the only fans they showed in the trailer were female and screaming about the proposal thing.
Seems like the show is popular with woman because of the romance, but it has never really interested me. I only care about the future of the two because I think the show is funnier with the couple antics thrown in.
The women are more emotional about it- have viewing parties etc
we(guys) don't(normally) get giddy like the girls do, though it is funny Watching them get Giddy.
i will admit that i did comment aloud a few times during all the shows- like season 3 finale i went holy shit, i gotta watch the season 4 premiere...and the end of tick tick tick i said the same thing...and of course the first real kiss i thought, ABOUT TIME!!
Oh oh
CTV in canada is showing Castle on Sunday's at 9pm eastern (instead of monday at 10eastern)and the Premiere is at 7pm on the 22nd so ......
we(guys) don't(normally) get giddy like the girls do, though it is funny Watching them get Giddy.
i will admit that i did comment aloud a few times during all the shows- like season 3 finale i went holy shit, i gotta watch the season 4 premiere...and the end of tick tick tick i said the same thing...and of course the first real kiss i thought, ABOUT TIME!!
Oh oh
CTV in canada is showing Castle on Sunday's at 9pm eastern (instead of monday at 10eastern)and the Premiere is at 7pm on the 22nd so ......
As a Canadian, that's pretty good news
. I'm really looking forward to this, Grimm, and Arrow. All start close to each other, having something to watch without resorting to Under The Dome will be nice.As a dude I like it for the romance as well as the castle being an idiot moments. I'm not to sure what that says about me, but I've always enjoyed good romance in TV shows or at least the kinda awkward nerdy guy getting the hot lady. I think it started with Seth and summer in the oc....
Only a month to go before we all rage about the bad romance choices and how there isn't enough molly.
Can't wait.
Only a month to go before we all rage about the bad romance choices and how there isn't enough molly.
Can't wait.
I love the weird crimes too. For example in Season 2, the one about the vampire and the werewolf.
"Looks like Buffy is visiting the big apple"
I don't mean anything against the guys that like the romance. It just struck me as something kind of interesting. The show is most popular among woman it seems, and they seem to enjoy the show for a whole other reason than I do. It seems like everyone in here is a dude? Figured I'd see what you guys thought.
Jest Chillin
Member
Well there are reasons why it was compared to Moonlighting early on. The romance aspect is big. But this has much stronger procedural elements so it doesn't seem as doomed post-relationship.
I enjoy all the aspects of the show. The relationships, the comedy, the crime. The dialogue is really good for the most part as well. The characters are all really good. I just like pretty much everything about the show.
Haha, Certainly nothing against me here. I just like to project the romantic idea of TV upon myself. Like, I'm the nerdy awkward overweight guy, so wouldn't it be awesome if Rachel Bilson entered my life and loved me ... Oh yea it would.
So i've always enjoyed the romantic side of what seems to be odd couples (seth & summer, chuck & sarah and so on) so this while it isn't exactly an odd couple, It still somewhat feels like it.
So I get a little bit of a laugh out of it all but it's certainly not why I actually watch the show.
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