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Amir0x said:
i don't know - maybe you'd have to date a slacker like vincent for 5 years to better appreciate where she might be coming from?
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Catherine |OT| Sheep, Matrimony, Terror - Love Is Gone
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i don't know - maybe you'd have to date a slacker like vincent for 5 years to better appreciate where she might be coming from?
...I got up my review of Catherine today. Our copy arrived a bit late, thus the near week-late review. I gave it a 9/10. If you want to read it, here's the link: http://gematsu.com/2011/08/review-catherine
Superb game.
Superb game.
dragonlife
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No, it makes you both adorable.Reveirg said:
Just finished stage 7-1 on Normal. Loving the game. I was horrendously frustrated with stage 2 or 3 (whichever level introduced the
), but something clicked recently and I plowed through stages 5 and 6 with little trouble.
It feels great to see a cliff full of blocks, get an idea of what to do with it and then have that idea WORK.
I'm going with blue, and I'm starting to see some different dialogue along that angle. My girlfriend is going with the red path, and we're going to compare the differences between the two as we play.
trap blocks
It feels great to see a cliff full of blocks, get an idea of what to do with it and then have that idea WORK.
I'm going with blue, and I'm starting to see some different dialogue along that angle. My girlfriend is going with the red path, and we're going to compare the differences between the two as we play.
NinajHeartless
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Reveirg said:
This is incredible.
You two are extremely awesome ;D
Crash Station
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Night 7 done. I feel like a genius for figuring out 7-4. And once again, the boss wasn't that bad and easier than some of the other stages this night.
Can't wait to see how this all ends. I'm pretty clearly on the Katherine path, so I'll probably play again on easy to get the other endings.
Can't wait to see how this all ends. I'm pretty clearly on the Katherine path, so I'll probably play again on easy to get the other endings.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
Not very spoiler-y, but...Teknoman said:She might have a point if he's got jack in the ATM and just bought a new model cell and a new PC
Either way, cant wait to find out whats up with the ants or if its just some running joke. With Atlus you never know.
at some point in the game they mention that ants come from/are attracted to the witch
Finished. Man, I can't remember having such mixed emotions about a game. In the end I just don't think there was enough variety, enough content for this game to be $60. I like that it was made though because it was so different.
Liked the final stages the most (meaning they were about the only ones I more than tolerated). I liked that there wasn't some crazy
OK, big-time spoiler question:
Liked the final stages the most (meaning they were about the only ones I more than tolerated). I liked that there wasn't some crazy
tough puzzle section where you're just stumped; how fast-paced it was.
OK, big-time spoiler question:
What they hell was going on with Jonny in the dream area? He said he betrayed his best friend, he "loved" her, said "please forgive me" when you approached him... then no pay-off? Maybe another ending?
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
duffyside said:
Apparently
It's in another ending, he's actually in "love" with Katherine. I believe the nromal freedom ending mentioned that he started going out with Katherine.
XANDER CAGE
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ErasureAcer
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I DID IT!!!!!!! I beat the Altar. Man that was tough. 8:32 was my clear time.
Mortrialus
Banned
This is one of those games where it is feels impossible to give it an appropriate score given how unconventional it is. Also, Unconventional is how I would sum it up in a single word.
Overall it is a very solid game. The art style is quite good. The character designs are all distinct and avoid the usual failings present in many anime. I've grown quite used to fantastic character designs from Shin Megami Tensei games and it's good to see that tradition present here. The music is also solid, with It's a Golden Show being the stand out track. That horn at 1:13 is incredibly sexy. On the PS3 version, the controls are solid, as is the camera. The controls reversing when you are climbing on the back side of the tower is jarring and annoying, but you get use to it. Overall everything works quite well.
The biggest complaint I have about this game is the difficulty. It is insanely hard. It is crushingly hard to a fault, easily harder than Demon's Souls. I'd argue it's harder than Ninja Gaiden (NES) given how I'm certain I died dozens more times beating Catherine for the first time than I did beating Ninja Gaiden for the first time. And I played Catherine on Easy. Thankfully Catherine's check point system is reasonable, and the game basically throws infinite lives at you, but this game is in dire need of an "Even Easier" setting. Overall, the game is very addictive. When it was shipped to my house on the 27th I sat down and finished it in one sitting. It was about a 13 hour playthrough, so the game's length was solid as well.
There are other minor gripes as well. The animated cut scenes are insanely loud compared to the game play and the real time dialog cut scenes. Why this wasn't fixed I don't know, because it strikes me as an incredibly easy thing to do. Also, the bells that ring during the landing pads and near the end of the levels can fuck right off. They are a constant annoyance. Also, the audible "Edge" noise that plays when you connect a block to the edge of another is incredibly grinding.
The story and characters are at least engaging. The voice acting is also solid. I was a little hesitant about the English cast from the previews, but it came together quite well. As others have mentioned, Vincent's indecisiveness can be really grating at times. Some of the dialog is also a bit wonky. Some characters also change subjects without notification. Also "Woman's Wrath" is eye roll worthy. I'll probably take some of my more specific complaints into the spoiler thread. Still, I was always excited to finish the nightmare stages simply to see where the story will progress. Also, by the end of my game, Vincent developed into one of the biggest bad asses in gaming, and he didn't need a minigun or a six foot sword to do it.
The game is very addictive. When it was shipped to my house on the 27th I sat down and finished it in one sitting. It was about a 13 hour playthrough, so the game's length was solid as well.
This game is so unique, I have no idea who'd I recommend it to, and the game's difficulty chains it's appeal because I'm willing to wager that the overwhelming majority of players who've played this game will give up in frustration over some of the harder levels, particularly stages 6 and 7 given how the game's difficulty ramps up during these segments. My thoughts on this game are complex, and I'll probably need even more time than I've already had to figure out exactly what my overall thoughts are.
Overall it is a very solid game. The art style is quite good. The character designs are all distinct and avoid the usual failings present in many anime. I've grown quite used to fantastic character designs from Shin Megami Tensei games and it's good to see that tradition present here. The music is also solid, with It's a Golden Show being the stand out track. That horn at 1:13 is incredibly sexy. On the PS3 version, the controls are solid, as is the camera. The controls reversing when you are climbing on the back side of the tower is jarring and annoying, but you get use to it. Overall everything works quite well.
The biggest complaint I have about this game is the difficulty. It is insanely hard. It is crushingly hard to a fault, easily harder than Demon's Souls. I'd argue it's harder than Ninja Gaiden (NES) given how I'm certain I died dozens more times beating Catherine for the first time than I did beating Ninja Gaiden for the first time. And I played Catherine on Easy. Thankfully Catherine's check point system is reasonable, and the game basically throws infinite lives at you, but this game is in dire need of an "Even Easier" setting. Overall, the game is very addictive. When it was shipped to my house on the 27th I sat down and finished it in one sitting. It was about a 13 hour playthrough, so the game's length was solid as well.
There are other minor gripes as well. The animated cut scenes are insanely loud compared to the game play and the real time dialog cut scenes. Why this wasn't fixed I don't know, because it strikes me as an incredibly easy thing to do. Also, the bells that ring during the landing pads and near the end of the levels can fuck right off. They are a constant annoyance. Also, the audible "Edge" noise that plays when you connect a block to the edge of another is incredibly grinding.
The story and characters are at least engaging. The voice acting is also solid. I was a little hesitant about the English cast from the previews, but it came together quite well. As others have mentioned, Vincent's indecisiveness can be really grating at times. Some of the dialog is also a bit wonky. Some characters also change subjects without notification. Also "Woman's Wrath" is eye roll worthy. I'll probably take some of my more specific complaints into the spoiler thread. Still, I was always excited to finish the nightmare stages simply to see where the story will progress. Also, by the end of my game, Vincent developed into one of the biggest bad asses in gaming, and he didn't need a minigun or a six foot sword to do it.
The game is very addictive. When it was shipped to my house on the 27th I sat down and finished it in one sitting. It was about a 13 hour playthrough, so the game's length was solid as well.
This game is so unique, I have no idea who'd I recommend it to, and the game's difficulty chains it's appeal because I'm willing to wager that the overwhelming majority of players who've played this game will give up in frustration over some of the harder levels, particularly stages 6 and 7 given how the game's difficulty ramps up during these segments. My thoughts on this game are complex, and I'll probably need even more time than I've already had to figure out exactly what my overall thoughts are.
Just started the game yesterday. I love it so far. Played until I got to the Day 6 Nightmare. You guys weren't kidding when you said the game was hard. It's really the "bosses" that are unforgiving. The difficulty seemed to spike with the
and I haven't had too much trouble since then. Anyone else have the same experience?
Child boss
Incendiary
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Started playing this last night, finally. Stopped before I started Stage 4, but I'm loving it so far. Catherine > Katherine, but I knew that before I even bought it. And Orlando's voice bothers me because I just did a run-through of New Vegas and gah. I know it's similar to a character from that but I can't pinpoint it down.
I really like the mixture of the bar and then the nightmares, very Persona-esque vibe. I'm enjoying it.
I really like the mixture of the bar and then the nightmares, very Persona-esque vibe. I'm enjoying it.
Picked this up last night, and I'm a little surprised at how much I'm enjoying it. I thought it would be a "play through once, then sell it," game, but now I'm thinking I'll have to hang on to it.
Vincent's voice drives me nuts because I can't hear him and not hear Yuri Lowell from Tales of Vesperia.
Vincent's voice drives me nuts because I can't hear him and not hear Yuri Lowell from Tales of Vesperia.
ScionOfTheRisingSun
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Well, this long weekend I sat down for some quality time with this game and finished it in three wonderful sessions over three days.
I have got to say this game is everything the Persona games were not. The gameplay sections actually felt fresh and fun, and the story segments were properly paced, devoid of pointless filler and had good production values thrown at them.
No longer were I dreading the nights where I have to explore a bland randomly generated dungeon using a by the books standard fare RPG gameplay ripped straight out of the previous century. As for the daytime segments I no longer had to follow up the ennui of dungeon crawling with having to navigate long meandering lines of dialoug often accompanied with puppet theater levels of animation and production values.
This is the right approach for Atlus games, not a 100 hour behemoth taking a huge bite out of your game time, taking its damn time digesting its vile morsel. No, just long enough for you to avoid feeling a sense of repetition, with incentive for repeat visits if you feel you are game for more after the credits roll.
I really love the fact that there are no unvoiced or puppet theater bad canned animation story segments in this game. It is like they decided that if a line was not worth animating properly and voicing then they didn't need to waste players time with it, kudos.
After the Persona Games I was ready to write off Atlus as a company whose stuff some people seem to enjoy, but whose design philosophy were entirely contrary to my sentiments. But now if Catherine is any indication of their future direction then I'll be keeping a close eye on them.
Also, the graphics in this game are amazing. The cell shaded characters which are Japanese in all the right ways which will not turn off a majourity of today's players really are an example for all to learn from. This is one way to do go for an anti-realistic approach to character design and do it in a way that is competent and works for a lot of people.
The voice acting was really exemplary as well, the VA's really brought the characters personalities to life rather than being a detracting performance so embarrassing that it is to be made fun of and eternally quote via youtube videos.
You know, this project overall is something for all to learn from, a game of this caliber and quality, made on what is really rather shoestring in comparison to what the industry views as a passable budget today, but does not show it by playing to its strength while designed to turn a profit after an insanely low unit sales.
Kudos all around Atlus, I see great things in their future.
I have got to say this game is everything the Persona games were not. The gameplay sections actually felt fresh and fun, and the story segments were properly paced, devoid of pointless filler and had good production values thrown at them.
No longer were I dreading the nights where I have to explore a bland randomly generated dungeon using a by the books standard fare RPG gameplay ripped straight out of the previous century. As for the daytime segments I no longer had to follow up the ennui of dungeon crawling with having to navigate long meandering lines of dialoug often accompanied with puppet theater levels of animation and production values.
This is the right approach for Atlus games, not a 100 hour behemoth taking a huge bite out of your game time, taking its damn time digesting its vile morsel. No, just long enough for you to avoid feeling a sense of repetition, with incentive for repeat visits if you feel you are game for more after the credits roll.
I really love the fact that there are no unvoiced or puppet theater bad canned animation story segments in this game. It is like they decided that if a line was not worth animating properly and voicing then they didn't need to waste players time with it, kudos.
After the Persona Games I was ready to write off Atlus as a company whose stuff some people seem to enjoy, but whose design philosophy were entirely contrary to my sentiments. But now if Catherine is any indication of their future direction then I'll be keeping a close eye on them.
Also, the graphics in this game are amazing. The cell shaded characters which are Japanese in all the right ways which will not turn off a majourity of today's players really are an example for all to learn from. This is one way to do go for an anti-realistic approach to character design and do it in a way that is competent and works for a lot of people.
The voice acting was really exemplary as well, the VA's really brought the characters personalities to life rather than being a detracting performance so embarrassing that it is to be made fun of and eternally quote via youtube videos.
You know, this project overall is something for all to learn from, a game of this caliber and quality, made on what is really rather shoestring in comparison to what the industry views as a passable budget today, but does not show it by playing to its strength while designed to turn a profit after an insanely low unit sales.
Kudos all around Atlus, I see great things in their future.
ScionOfTheRisingSun said:
This is definitely the exception, not the norm. You have to keep in mind that the next Atlus game releasing stateside is a heavy-handed 100 hour behemoth by the name of Innocent Sin. Atlus' bread and butter is the jRPG. Now, that doesn't mean you have to force these games down your throat, simply because Atlus developed them. This is one of those times we can very safely say: "These games were not for you." These games have a very strong following, and rightfully so, in my humble opinion. I enjoyed Nocturne, DS2, P3 and P4 for much of the same reasons I'm enoying Catherine. Challenging and incredibly satisfying gameplay, unique and engrossing stories and amazing soundtracks. I'm sure Atlus will release more funky games like Catherine in the future, but I sincerely doubt that they'll ever step away from the jRPG, especially how well Shin Megami Tensei/Megami Ibunroku sell.
creid
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I'm wondering if there's a trophy for doing something in the puzzle sections. It's not story-related, but I'll tag it anyway:
Any trophy for waiting until the last second to enter the door / grab the chain? I don't understand why they would let you wait to grab the chain, unless there was a trophy for something like "escape at the last second."
iconoclast
Member
Lol, 178 steps in Obelisk before getting random'd to death by moving blocks. Babel is more luck than skill. Awful shit.
Incitemaybe
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Yay! Finally had a chance to pick this up
What seems to be the consensus on which difficulty setting to choose? I would typically go with anything called "normal" but I am hearing this game is uber difficult........
What seems to be the consensus on which difficulty setting to choose? I would typically go with anything called "normal" but I am hearing this game is uber difficult........
Incitemaybe said:Yay! Finally had a chance to pick this up
What seems to be the consensus on which difficulty setting to choose? I would typically go with anything called "normal" but I am hearing this game is uber difficult........
I'm wondering this myself as I'm looking at the title screen hahaha
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Yeah, I think 6-2 is about as far as I'm going to get. At least on Normal. Thing is, I really don't want to knock the difficulty down to Easy...
MichaelEM3
Banned
I'd recommend Easy for your first playthrough so that you can - as they advise you when the choose the difficulty - sit back and enjoy the story. But don't fret: Easy isn't a cakewalk or anything.Incitemaybe said:
Andrefpvs
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Oh crap, oh crap, just got the game and forgot the Trophies default to Japanese if your XMB language is not English on your first boot-up!
Is there anything I can do to get them back to change to English? Maybe delete game data and reinstall? I still haven't synched my Trophies...
Help?
Edit: Searched the webs, apparently I'm screwed. Damn, the Trophy system sucks sometimes.
Is there anything I can do to get them back to change to English? Maybe delete game data and reinstall? I still haven't synched my Trophies...
Help?
Edit: Searched the webs, apparently I'm screwed. Damn, the Trophy system sucks sometimes.
Shorty11857
Member
Got the game today and just got to the fourth stage I think, dear god that boss actually freaked me out, game is pretty hard now too. Loving it so far though
VeryGooster
Banned
My friend and I took turns playing this all day today and we got up to 6-2 before we decided our asses had been kicked.
Really enjoying it.
Really enjoying it.
Mortrialus
Banned
Incitemaybe said:Yay! Finally had a chance to pick this up
What seems to be the consensus on which difficulty setting to choose? I would typically go with anything called "normal" but I am hearing this game is uber difficult........
Definitely go easy. Even on easy the game is insanely difficult. I'd put it in the Ninja Gaiden NES territory, even on easy.
XANDER CAGE
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It's not *that* hard on Normal if you have an eye for these types of puzzles.
I also didn't find Normal to be hard, and I'm not really a puzzle guy. 6-3 is the only insane difficulty leap IMO, it's fairly smooth sailing beyond that.
I've noticed your gamertag super high up on these, good job. I just beat Altar earlier, tried the others and only got around 60 IIRC. I feel like I can do Menhir if I try hard enough, but Obelisk is just nuts. I had a mystery block turn into a bomb that completely messed me up.
iconoclast said:
I've noticed your gamertag super high up on these, good job. I just beat Altar earlier, tried the others and only got around 60 IIRC. I feel like I can do Menhir if I try hard enough, but Obelisk is just nuts. I had a mystery block turn into a bomb that completely messed me up.
ErasureAcer
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think ive maxed out on this game. at 64 percent with daniel and sake to go. everything else seems out of reach. menhir kicks my ass. will probably unlock obelisk too but mundi probably not. sigh.
â Narayan
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I should be playing Persona 4, or something, but I can't put this game down. Think I'll get the Platinum trophy before laying it to rest.
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