CDPR keeping Witcher 3 keys for Origin, uPlay and GOG; tell GMG to go pound sand

Dsyndrome said:
How possible is it that they bought the keys off GOG and are selling at a loss to get folks into GMG? Is that even a possibility? Been a while since I preordered the game and don't know if it was possible to buy for anyone other than yourself.
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Highely unlikely. Physical PC games are cheap in the UK and they can get wholesale prices. And then there are eastern EU copies. There is no way they're selling at a loss
 
dex3108 said:
Somebody posted here saying that you need to log in with your GOG account and redeem keys that way directly on your account.
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For whats its worth the GMG insutrctions for redeeming the code says "Please note: This title will be delivered as a GOG key, that will be redeemable on http://www.gog.com/"
 
Krakn3Dfx said:
That's curious, wonder why, especially when they mention in the same post that GMG was a legit partner. I wonder if CDPR has some sort of exclusivity contract with Valve at this point outside of their standard GOG sales.
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I really doubt there is any deal with Valve as TW3 is also sold on Origin and uPlay.

Valnen said:
Seems kind of shitty if CD Projekt Red refused to sell keys to GMG.
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Why? CDP/GOG has rights to TW3's digital distribution and it's their prerogative to decide with what digital platforms they work with. TW3 is on GOG, Steam, Origin and uPlay and maybe other services.
 
Grief.exe said:
Physical distributors have to generate the same keys that GOG have access to as far as Steam games are concerned. They didn't even have to purchase physical copies, Namco may have just generated codes.
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They don't have to purchase physical copies technically, but I don't think that Namco Bandai would be allowed to sell just keys to a 3rd party considering that CD Projekt has the exclusive distribution rights in the digital space. It's possible that Nacmo didn't care, though.
 
RadioActiveLobster said:
What about the many games I've bought at GMG and gotten keys for prior to launch?
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Linkark07 said:
GMG releases keys for pre ordered games a few days before the official release date. I recall I bought Valkyria Chronicles or Civ: BE from GMG and then I pre loaded them.
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Yeah, I wasn't trying to suggest that they're doing this for every game - that was an exaggeration. However, in this case, it makes sense to me and explains why they're sometimes late on their delivery of games while other sites are already distributed & preloaded.
As another poster pointed out, they even waited to announce the sale price until CDPR confirmed there was an extra key in the box.
 
Corronchilejano said:
I could think of a few reasons.

They'd be opening the box and taking out the code that is supposed to go with the game disc. If the box said that it includes a game code for GOG, it'd now be false advertising if it's resold.

Considering they're selling it at a loss, I wouldn't be surprised this may be the case, and a bunch of used copies will start popping up online.
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No one is going to buy a used copy of a PC game.

CD key sellers who use retail copies just scrap the physical media.
 
wrowa said:
They don't have to purchase physical copies technically, but I don't think that Namco Bandai would be allowed to sell just keys to a 3rd party considering that CD Projekt has the exclusive distribution rights in the digital space. It's possible that Nacmo didn't care, though.
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Well, there're a bunch of people on a certain auction site that will sell you the Pc game box, then proceed to not send it and email the Steam key instead if asked, saving on delivery. I wonder what would happen legally if a retail-only publisher did this.
 
If it's the same as the other two games every single valid key from any source is technically a GOG key, because GOG will allow you to add it to your account and get a DRM free copy. The keys may very well be from Nvidia or boxed copies, you would still be able to use them on GOG regardless.
 
To be honest, I think we should get the whole story before jumping to conclusions.

I'll still buy my games from GMG even if they are in the wrong as they have not done anything even remotely shady before this (aka they still have my trust).
 
HowZatOZ said:
What? That's exactly true for this game and many others. All you need is the CD Key entered into GoG, you don't need the CD to play. We aren't in the 90s anymore.
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what he's saying is, it would be entirely possible for GMG to buy retail copies in bulk, sell the GOG codes, then sell the boxed copies (codeless) as DRM free used versions. not that i think that's what is actually happening in this case.
 
GJS said:
No one is going to buy a used copy of a PC game.

CD key sellers who use retail copies just scrap the physical media.
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Sure, but someone asked why would that be a bad thing, well, there it is. Now I don't know what sort of physical media the game comes in, but since its DRM free, I wouldn't be surprised to find Gamestop selling the disks used.
 
Corronchilejano said:
Sure, but someone asked why would that be a bad thing, well, there it is. Now I don't know what sort of physical media the game comes in, but since its DRM free, I wouldn't be surprised to find Gamestop selling the disks used.
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Physical Media is DVD, IIRC.

Gamestop doesn't sell used PC games does it? Thought that was only limited to console.
 
GMG responded

Sulyok explains that GMG chose to essentially go around CD Projekt RED by acquiring digital copies of the game from third parties and retailers that were approved by CD Projekt RED. According to Sulyok, this means that CD Projekt RED is getting the revenue from sales of these games, and that any additional discount is absorbed by GMG. Earlier today, CD Projekt RED told GameSpot it was getting "zero" revenue from these sales.
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JakeD said:
what he's saying is, it would be entirely possible for GMG to buy retail copies in bulk, sell the GOG codes, then sell the boxed copies (codeless) as DRM free used versions. not that i think that's what is actually happening in this case.
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Ohhhh, now I get you. I was so confused by his original statement as it came across as needing the physical CD to play.
 
Would like to know the specific of where GMG is getting those keys. Being vague about it is not doing them many favors.

Given Namco is listead as publisher I'd think they were one of the sources but since there appears to be multiple, it's a bit odd. Most grey market sites phrase how they get their games similarly, so it's not exactly a great parallel.
 
Man, people are gonna be distrustful of GMG for a while now, even though they were doing absolutely nothing wrong.

Corpekata said:
Would like to know the specific of where GMG is getting those keys. Being vague about it is not doing them many favors.

Given Namco is listead as publisher I'd think they were one of the sources but since there appears to be multiple, it's a bit odd. Most grey market sites phrase how they get their games similarly, so it's not exactly a great parallel.
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If GMG are saying approved resellers, then I don't think it could be Namco, since they aren't approved to sell codes. I mean, if they really have purchased these codes from approved resellers, then I don't really think they need to be any clearer. They've broken no laws, which would make CD Projekt and Gamespot way in the wrong here and the ones who should be explaining.

Hell, if GMG are being completely truthful, then this whole thing is just short of slander.
 
Interesting that they didn't work with GMG, yet the game is available across a number of typical digital outlets. Might be focusing more on digital platforms rather than distributors like GMG.
 
Famicom said:
GMG responded
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"Following a six-month dialogue with [CD Projekt RED] about the launch of The Witcher 3, we were disappointed that despite the offer of significant cash advances, and other opportunities to officially work together, (we even offered to fly to Poland to discuss in detail how we could and wanted to support this launch), CDPR chose not to engage with a number of significant, reputable, and successful retailers, including ourselves, as they instead focused on supporting their own platform GOG. " Sulyok said.
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Sulyok explains that GMG chose to essentially go around CD Projekt RED by acquiring digital copies of the game from third parties and retailers that were approved by CD Projekt RED. According to Sulyok, this means that CD Projekt RED is getting the revenue from sales of these games, and that any additional discount is absorbed by GMG. Earlier today, CD Projekt RED told GameSpot it was getting "zero" revenue from these sales.
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Wow, if that is true.

Shame on CDPR for saying that they'll get 0 revenue.


I love both parties here, but if the GMG copies are legit that are just from 3rd party sources BECAUSE CDPR refused, I'm definitely siding with GMG.
 
Corpekata said:
Would like to know the specific of where GMG is getting those keys. Being vague about it is not doing them many favors.

Given Namco is listead as publisher I'd think they were one of the sources but since there appear to be multiple, it's a bit odd. Most grey market sites phrase how they get their games similarly.
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Especially when CDPR is making statements about the legitimacy of the codes. If it's all in the clear you would think they would say immediately how they got them.
 
Where would they get that amount of keys and why sell it at a loss? That makes no sense. What other site that GMG could have used is even selling Witcher 3 keys?
This isnt over yet
 
YianGaruga said:
Where would they get that amount of keys and why sell it at a loss? That makes no sense. What other site that GMG could have used is even selling Witcher 3 keys?
This isnt over yet
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Well, we know it's not Steam, as they don't offer GOG codes, nor Origin or the Ubisoft thingy and GMG didn't respond when CDPR asked them about their source, so it still sounds iffy.
 
Uhyve said:
Man, people are gonna be distrustful of GMG for a while now, even though they were doing absolutely nothing wrong.


If GMG are saying approved resellers, then I don't think it could be Namco, since they aren't approved to sell codes. I mean, if they really have purchased these codes from approved resellers, then I don't really think they need to be any clearer. They've broken no laws, which would make CD Projekt and Gamespot way in the wrong here.
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They aren't breaking laws but this does put them in the realm of every other CD key reseller, where this is their entire business model. What's the difference now between buying it on GMG or cdkeys.com?
 
HowZatOZ said:
Interesting that they didn't work with GMG, yet the game is available across a number of typical digital outlets. Might be focusing more on digital platforms rather than distributors like GMG.
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Maybe they're perceiving GMG as more of a competitor to GOG than they do Steam/uPlay/Origin? (No idea if that would actually make sense as I'm not very knowledgable when it comes to these digital stores.)
 
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