Foley would be quite the genius if he could get rid of Muschamp and get Texas to pay for the buyout.
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Foley would be quite the genius if he could get rid of Muschamp and get Texas to pay for the buyout.
Mac the KNife
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What's John L. Smith up to these days?
peteykirch
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Winston making a crack about being allowed to touch something with permission.
He really is a scumbag.
He really is a scumbag.
That's not tasteless at all. Nope.
Franklin
Shaw
Jimbo
Malzahn
Gary Andersen
My dream Candidate is John Harbaugh (not counting Jim because he's not leaving but there is still a .0001% chance that John might.)
Lifetime Longhorn here.
Mack has been around for a very long time. He did things the right way. The classy way. Hes a very genuine and humble human being. Ill thank him until eternity for what he did to bring the program back to dominance.
Unfortunately, with anyone who does the same job for 16 years, he got complacent. By allowing the past 4 years of mediocrity to be a giant stain on the legacy he once held.
Hes a great coach and brought me and other Texas fans some of the best memories we have ever had.
Having said that, I am happy he decided to call it quits. Its time for change here in Austin. We need a new face, a new brand of energy that the younger generation can rally behind.
Some of my candidates would be Mike Tomlin, Jim Harbaugh, Charlie Strong, Mike Gundy, and possibly even Art Briles.
Texas is one of the top 3 premier jobs in the coaching world. When they call you, you have to answer. There isnt a coach out there that wont take that phone call. That INCLUDES Saban (even though he was never going to leave Bama).
Who ever we get, I hope its someone full of energy that understands that there needs to be a culture change here in Austin.
Thank you for 12 great years Mack (I choose to forget the last 4).
Hook Em.
Yep, you're a Longhorn fan.
Randolph Freelander
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I don't know, I've wondered what's so darn special about Texas. They haven't been lighting it up. In terms of winning, it's already behind Oklahoma before you even make it out of the Big XII. It seems like the only school with a more over-inflated sense of self worth is Michigan.
Give me 3 reasons why Texas is so great? Its touted as the best job in CFB, there's money galore, talent out of the woodwork, Austin is the best place ever to live....
And yet, despite that, I'm not sure Texas is really an elite level job. How many national championships do they have? For all the talent they have access too, they still get outrecruited all the time by other teams. In terms of perception, I think Oklahoma may be a more elite program. People say this about their basketball program all the time, and while they have good teams, they are seldom if ever great. If this seems a bit antagonistic, I apologize, but I'd love for someone to justify how great the Texas job is beyond money and Austin is weird.
EDIT: Randolph readin my mind n some shit
You're forgetting how many top recruits come out of Texas. And that Texas is where most of them grow up wanting to go. And that Texas has a ton of money to support their programs.
Texas is the hottest recruiting bed in the country. Its reagents and donors are easily the richest in the nation. When you have a coach that can capitalize on its recruits and have success here, youre talking about a combination that can not be beaten. There is no pro team here in Austin. The Longhorns ARE that professional franchise here.
With what was considered by many of the closest fans to be one of the worst teams in the Mack Brown era, we were still one game away from getting a Big 12 title this year.
From the time Mack got here, until 2010, we were a 10 win a year program. With 2 national championship appearances and several BCS and other bowl wins.
Time after time, Texas reigns supreme as the top grossing revenue school in the country.
From the outside looking in, it may seem as though Texas is "over inflated". But I guarantee you that any coach out there understands the power this university holds when it comes to football.
Dr_LawyerCop
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I'm not a Texas fan, but I honestly can't think of a better college job. The fanbase, the money, the history, the recruiting base. You can win a national championship at a lot of different schools, but at Texas it's almost like you have a headstart. It's a better job than Alabama, Florida, Florida State, USC, UCLA, and Ohio State.
Randolph Freelander
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That's nice. But it hasn't translated onto the field, and it's not a historically dominant program, at least not in my lifetime. Much of its glory is in the distant past. Not quite as far past as Michigan's, but they weren't winning or competing for national titles for decades before Mack Brown got there.
1. Robert Griffin III
2. Johnny Manziel
3. Jameis Winston
Last three Heisman winners all wanted to go to UT. No Swag-copters needed or money under the table. They can have the best players without really trying.
Ninja Scooter
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I have no idea what in the fuck he is talking about
Ninja Scooter
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He always did remind me of Air McNair's play style, I guess they got that same twang too.
Based on his speech, I assume maybe his dad was in prison for a bit or something.
Randolph Freelander
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CriginsMcJuggs
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And yet the last three Heisman winners(famous jameis included) all wanted to go to UT. Texas is just on a different level. They've won a natty more recently than OSU, which is the only program even close to Texas IMO.
Thats because Mack has followed a formula that didnt include getting the best in the state. Instead, he became a politician who allowed his coordinators to do all of the work. He has been checked out since the loss to Bama in 2009.
Two of the best college QB's in the last year have both stated multiple times that they wanted to come to Texas over their current school. (Winston and Manziel).
Mack put all of his eggs into the Garrett Gilbert basket and it set the program behind several years. You cant blame him for recruiting the kid. He was the undisputed #1 QB coming out of High School. He just didnt pan out the way everyone thought he would.
Mack under coaches. He never got all he could out of his players. Some of the many reasons that we here in Austin have been calling for his head ever since 2010.
When you allow a hungry new young coach to come in to the hottest recruiting bed in the country, youre talking about a recipe built for success.
25% of the current NFL QB's are from the state of Texas. CFB is a sport that relies heavily on that position. If Winston or Manziel come here, you would have a very different perception on how great Texas is.
Unfortunately, Mack didnt do his job. And thats why he is gone.
Usually we don't get new lifelongs showing up in these threads until their team is in the top 10 or something like that. I guess Mack Brown finally leaving is the UT equivalent?
I usually dont come to Neogaf to discuss sports. I have other boards that I use to participate in those conversations.
But yes, I guess you could say that this is big enough news to be spreading the wealth for.
1998 9–3–0
1999 9–5–0
2000 9–3–0
2001 11–2–0
2002 11–2–0
2003 10–3–0
2004 11–1–0 (Rose Bowl)
2005 13–0–0 (National Championship)
2006 10–3–0
2007 10–3–0
2008 12–1–0 (Fiesta Bowl) (one freak play by Michael Crabtree away from another NC)
2009 13–1–0 (National Championship)
Yeah, id say thats pretty dominant.
CriginsMcJuggs
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Texas fans who want a Harbaugh are delusional
Why don't we just add every recruit ever to that list? Because clearly the only reason why players elect not to go to Texas is because they were never recruited there at all.
Clowney is like Winston. Even if he ever said anything publicly about UT (not sure if he did or not), he was never going to go there. It was SCAR/Clemson the entire time. With Winston, it was Bama/FSU the entire time. Kids say stuff like Winston did every year but it's rarely true.
Dr_LawyerCop
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I don't think so. A couple disappointing seasons, a few bad drafts, and any NFL coach can be out of a job. I think it's much easier to succeed at Texas. Add in the fact that it'd probably come with a pay raise, and I wouldn't be surprised if one of them jumped.
Randolph Freelander
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I don't know why any quality NFL coach would ever willingly go down to college and have to deal with recruiting. It seems like something you'd have to be wired to do.
I don't think this is true. I can't recall too many instances of kids saying they would have gone to another school besides the ones who said they wanted to go to Texas
It really does seem that way.
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoo...ootball-prospect-exclusive-inside-look-021411
And you can add Trenton Richardson to that list
http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.co...orite-school-growing-up-but-the-longhorn.html
Yep, every recruit wants to go to Texas. Mack was just too lazy to have have his staff stamp his name on a mass distributed letter to every recruit in the country or he would have had his pick of 'em. Damn his lazy ass.
Ninja Scooter
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I thought one of the issues for Winston was that UT wouldn't have let him play baseball while FSU did?
No, it was that they never returned his hs coach's calls.
Alligatorjandro
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lol
Randolph Freelander
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In college basketball, I hear it all the time. Just for Duke, Jason Williams (1999-2002) wanted to go to North Carolina. Williams has said it frequently, saying he was told by Bill Guthridge (UNC coach at the time) that he wasn't good enough. Grant Hill (1990-1994) wanted to go to Georgetown, but felt insulted by their academic advisor. There's more players, past and present, on Duke that wanted to go to UNC, but their precise stories escape me at the moment.
Shit, son. You think he can see into the future?