OriginalNameGuy
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Saban says hello
Lol
He ran back to the college game after failing in Miami. Just like Petrino did with Atlanta.
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He ran back to the college game after failing in Miami. Just like Petrino did with Atlanta.
Randolph Freelander
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What? No. Just no. Don't get me wrong, that's good. That national title is greatness, those 1 loss seasons are exemplary. But that's not dominant. Florida State had 14 consecutive seasons from 1987 to 2000 finishing in the top 5, 2 national titles, 8 seasons with 1 or fewer losses, no seasons with more than 2 losses. And that wasn't dominant, either.
I don't know what you're trying to say. There's no inherent quality of Texas that suddenly turns players great.
If that isn't dominant, then I don't know what is.
They also didn't win the 2009 MNC either
It counts because they totally would have won it if Colt wasn't a pussy.
Right, so saying Jameis Winston, Manziel or anyone else wanted to go to Texas, doesn't make Texas inherently good either.
Randolph Freelander
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A couple less "wide rights," and maybe I would upgrade it. What can I say, I'm a tough grader.
Dr_LawyerCop
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What's do you consider dominant?
Just because players are successful at other schools doesn't make Texas not a good school. By that logic every school sucks!
Purple Cheeto
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Saban says hello
He said quality NFL coach. I'm not sure Saban qualifies as such.
Randolph Freelander
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That was a streak of excellence. But during that streak, multiple schools won more national titles than Florida State did. Just over those years, Miami and Nebraska each won 3. Florida State did lose 3 national championship games during that streak, and they had those missed opportunities versus Miami that tripped them up, so they had their chances. Florida State was consistently great.
And truth be told, since I'm a fan of their program, I don't want to be in danger of overstating what they accomplished just because of perhaps lacking perspective. I'd rather understate it.
Thats not my point, both you and some other Longhorn poster claimed Texas football supremecy because of the huge recruiting pool and talent and then namedrop a bunch of great college players that supposedly wanted to go to Texas, yet didn't go to Texas as some sort of validation of how great Texas is. That doesn't make any sense. Look, both LeBron and Kobe have been quoted as saying that they would have played for Coach K at Duke had they gone to college (and they listed others like UNC, UK and Ohio State, depending on who's hot) but they didn't go to Duke and no Duke fan counts them as validation of the program. Who cares if Winston wanted to go to Texas? He didn't go there. It means nothing.
Purple Cheeto
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Texas is in no way a better job that USC.
whatever bluemax
Purple Cheeto
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Okay, so no way is extreme because UT has some advantages but not that many. Being more realistic Id say they're roughly equal.
perfectchaos007
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Alligatorjandro
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They tried to destroy Clarett
UT has practically every advantage you could possibly want. In spades. USC is a good job but it's not Texas.
FSU was as dominant during the 90s as any modern college football program. There hasn't been a UCLA Basketball dynasty in college football. What have been the best runs in the modern era? Bear Bama, Saban Bama, Miami, Nebraska, FSU, USC? None ultra dominant over a huge span like UCLA bball. I love it that way, I hate one team dominating for so long. Bama is getting boring. Just like Carroll's USC did and Florida was under Urbow.
Randolph Freelander
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USC is like Texas, but with actual success.
I mean, with enough ambition and hard work, you can succeed at any job! Just ask Pat Fitzgerald!
So... it's a cakewalk, because everything's already provided for you?
If Varsity Blues has taught me anything, it's that high school football is the only football that matters in Texas.
If you want the best chance to succeed Texas is the school on the top of your list. Pretty simple.
It's the flagship university of Texas for football.
perfectchaos007
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Thats basically what it comes down to. One of the most difficult jobs in the country was Boise States, and I'm surprised Peterson stayed there as long as he did. He should do very very well at Washington
Nothing is a cakewalk in College Football but it's definitely a job that smooths the bumps out. It gives you the best opportunity to succeed. That's not a guarantee.
You're held to different standards at the old powers like Texas, SC, Oklahoma, and Alabama because they have such vast resources at their disposal - they're the flagship universities in their respective, football-rich states with some decent history to boot.
Osborne's Nebraska teams were a vast aberration, and I feel like is much more impressive to boot.
Osborne's Nebraska teams were a vast aberration, and I feel like is much more impressive to boot.
better W/L Record in his 2 years, than Pete Carroll's 1st 2 year's in Seattle.
Dr_LawyerCop
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I would love for Nebraska to reach those levels again, even though I'm a MSU fan. I just remember how great those Nebraska teams were when I was a kid. And Colorado. How did they fall off the face of the Earth?
Bama - Auburn would've gone to OT, holmes. They were tied.
Realized that after I posted, but clearly decided to drop the entire post anyway and you just caught me before the edit. Decided that arguing with a newborn lifelong wasn't worth the effort.
'tis a fair point.
Saw Todd Graham as a potential candidate. No way they get in bed with that guy. I've seen a couple of people say Saban and even Urban Meyer are in play, but no one was going to put his name out there and make it look like they were responsible for forcing out Mack
Or Mack held on until Saban signed his deal b/c he didn't want to be followed by Saban, or that Mack wanted to screw Chip Brown. I choose to believe all the rumors, especially the ones that conflict with each other! It's all over once Texas gets a good coach. They'll have a MNC within 3 years
Or Mack held on until Saban signed his deal b/c he didn't want to be followed by Saban, or that Mack wanted to screw Chip Brown. I choose to believe all the rumors, especially the ones that conflict with each other! It's all over once Texas gets a good coach. They'll have a MNC within 3 years
timetokill
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:jnc
Literally every coach of a top 25 program has been stated as a potential candidate, as well as half the NFL coaches and a quarter of NBA coaches.
perfectchaos007
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Jürgen Klinsmann to Texas. Hook 'Em!
Didn't watch it. What's this a reference to?
And when did jameis say he wanted to go to texas? I thought it came down to playing baseball and football and only Bama or fsu allowed that?
GoldenEye 007
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Sorry, Texas. George O'Leary is unavailable.