Updated summary:
Nice work chap. Should be added to the OP.
Updated summary:
Nice work chap. Should be added to the OP.
Like with the phone-hacking stuff, things won't blow-up again until some celebrities or murdered children get involved.
For Adrian and Lee Johns, pictured here, it is already too late. Adrian was unlawfully killed in an arson attack in the Brighton area in 1992. He had been with other young people who had been abused at the Bryn Estyn children's home in North Wales when they were killed. His brother, Lee, died three years later of a drugs overdose.
Their brothers, Jay and Chris, have dropped off the radar. More than a decade ago, they were in hiding, fearing that their brothers had been the victims of foul play and that they were next.
Pete Sawyer wrote in 1997 and the article has stood the test of time:
Friends and relatives of the two victims, Adrian Johns, who died in the arson attack in April 1992, and Lee Homberg, who died of an apparent drugs overdose nearly three years later, are convinced that the two brothers were silenced because 'they knew too much' about the drugs and porn trade to which they had been introduced while in care.
Both Adrian and Lee had been abused at Bryn Alyn Community children's home, Wrexham. Lee later gave evidence against the head of Bryn Alyn, John Allen, sentenced to six years imprisonment in February 1995 for offences of indecent assault.
Although East Sussex police files on the incidents remain officially closed, it is understood that Brighton CID detectives have also been candidly re-assessing the case-files in the light of the possible connection with Bryn Alyn.
The arson attack on the elegant Regency converted townhouse in Palmeira Avenue, Hove, took place during the early hours of Easter Saturday, April 1992. The intended target was a third floor flat, where a small party was in progress.
Most people at the party were gay and the residents of the flat were well-known within the Brighton gay community. Because of this, few have wanted to come forward to talk to the police after the fire.
The only staircase in the building acted like a giant chimney flue. Flames and smoke rapidly spread up to and through the open door of the third floor flat, where the party was winding down.
Two people, AIDS counsellor Mabel Roberts, 48, and Andrew Manners, 29, died from multiple injuries trying to jump to safety. Seven people managed to escape by clambering down a drainpipe at the back of the building. One, Tim Sharpe, celebrating his 28th birthday, fell to his death after losing his grip.
Adrian Johns, 32, and another man, Paul 'Tony' Jones, 33, remained trapped in the flat and died of smoke inhalation. Their bodies were so badly charred that they had to be identified by dental records.
Later that morning Trevor Carrington, 41, one of the invited guests to the party, took the train to Wivelsfield, ten miles to the north of Brighton. He is thought to have buried his wallet, passport and a watch in nearby woods, perhaps as a symbolic gesture. He slashed his wrists and tried to overdose on a mixture of Paracetamol and alcohol. But at the last minute he staggered to a nearby phone box and called the emergency services.
In hospital in Haywards Heath Carrington confessed to his brother that he had started the fire as 'a prank'. He said that he had set light to a settee in the entrance hall with his lighter just as he was leaving the building with his partner.
Carrington walked out of the hospital soon afterwards. But within hours he was dead. He fell into the path of an oncoming lorry on a quiet country road. Police regarded it as suicide.
Carrington's confession to his brother enabled the police to close their files on the tragedy. It provided a simple and clean explanation. But although there is no suggestion that the fire was started by anyone other than Carrington, there remains the suspicion in the minds of Adrian's two surviving brothers and close family friends that Carrington may have been put up to the job by someone else.
Carrington was unemployed yet police allegedly told the family that he had maintained a bank account in the Isle of Man. Just before he died he allegedly told his brother that he wanted to go to the Isle of Man to get some money and then go on to Holland. A chequebook for the account was found after his death. Police told one of Adrian's brothers that some £20,000 was transferred into this account before the fire, but later they dismissed it as 'irrelevant' to the arson attack.
Carrington's simple confession also did not explain all of the facts of the fire itself.
Fire Brigade investigators found that two areas of the stairs had been so badly burnt that the fire-fighters' feet had gone straight through the floorboards. However floor areas closest to the settee - the supposed starting point of the fire - were relatively untouched. This led fire investigators to consider the possibility that the fire was started in three places and not one. Something highly combustible - perhaps petrol - may have been present at those points on the stairs where the fire-fighters' feet had gone through.
The Brigade directed the forensic team bought in by the Home Office to these 'suspect' spots as the fire brigade has no facilities to carry out forensic testing itself. Although the Home Office experts didn't disagree with the fire brigade's assertion that the spots were 'suspect', the leads were not followed up. Despite the forensic pointers this crucial piece of evidence, which suggested that the arson attack was not a mere prank and must have been planned in advance of the party, was ignored. The inference was, that Carrington's simple confession was not the whole truth: he must have bought something along to the party with which to fan the flames.
An american journalist has been banned from the UK but only when she stated she wanted to investigate the abuse cover-up.
Leah McGrath Goodman - Banned from the UK.
Does she have a bad history or something?
This stuff is blowing my mind. If you tried to make a film that involved a conspiracy of this potential magnitude, the audience would laugh at how absurd it would seem. Goddamn.
Can't stink any more? It can:
http://m.politics.co.uk/news/2012/11/14/peers-want-probe-into-child-abuse-inquiry-dropped
I don't think that this is quite what it seems. I've been to the (uncorrected) Hansard transcript and, besides an opening slip of the tongue by Lord Lloyd of Berwick who got Lord McAlpine and Lord McNally muddled up, the main thrust of the (very short) argument seems to be over the terms of reference for the Macur inquiry and in particular whether the focus on "whether the Waterhouse Inquiry was properly constituted and did its job" is in effect setting up Waterhouse as yet another fall guy and diverting attention from enquiring into child abuse and instead into the constitution and function of yet another enquiry.
As is their custom, the Lords are way too polite to put it that way.
One thing I've learned from Conspiracy theories is that most have at least 80% of truth to them.
Sure, if you ignore the overwhelmingly number of cases when they are wrong. Just about the most depressing and ridiculous claim I've seen in a whileOne thing I've learned from Conspiracy theories is that most have at least 80% of truth to them.
And this is the roll of honour listed by MP Paul Flynn on his site recently…a list of respondent witnesses mentioned in the 2002 Enquiry Report…meant to be pulped in a cover-up, once copy survived and wound up at the Independent on Sunday:
R1: Fell to his death from a railway bridge. Former resident of Bryn Alyn Home.
R2: May, 1978, committed suicide aged 16 by taking an overdose of pain killing tablets. Former resident of Bryn Alyn.
R3: March 1985, was found dead in a flat in which he was living in poverty, aged 21. Former resident of Little Acton Assessment centre.
R4: April 1992, died in a fire aged 32 in premises in which he lived in Sussex. The inquest verdict – unlawful killing. Former resident of Bryn Alyn.
R5: June 1992, found dead aged 18 in a bed-sitter. Cause of death, acute respiratory failure due to solvent abuse. Former resident of Bryn Alyn.
R6: January, 1994, committed suicide by hanging, aged 27.
R7: April, 1994, died aged 27 from alcohol abuse. Allegations that he had been the subject of a serious sexual offence. Former Bryn Estyn resident.
R8: July 1994, found dead in a car, aged 18. Former foster child in Clwyd where he allegedly suffered from maltreatment.
R9: November, 1994, committed suicide aged 16 by hanging.
R10: February, 1995, died from and apparent heroin overdose aged 37. Former resident of Bryn Alyn where it was alleged he had been sexually abused.
R11: February, 1995, hanged himself aged 31. Allegations of sexual abuse against care workers.
R12: May, 1995, found hanging aged 27. Allegations that he had been sexually abused by a senior care worker. Former resident of Bryn Estyn.
British citizens have a right to know the full story. Stay tuned for Part Two of this Slog Special later today….as the speculation reaches higher and higher into the men around David Cameron.
I could almost cry for our country at the moment, what the fuck is going on.
We do need to presume people are innocent until proven guilty.... There's enough people running around with pitchforks without foreigners stirring the pot.
Let's let the police investigate without prejudice, and try to find evidence so they can bring a conviction.
I didn't think it was possible but this thread gets even more depressing every time I check it. Good job with the updates though deck'ard.
More alleged child abuse victims step forward in Wales
Dozens more victims of alleged child abuse in North Wales care homes have come forward since the unfounded Newsnight allegations against Lord McAlpine.
Keith Towler, Children’s Commissioner for Wales is now handling 52 new cases including 35 relating to the original inquiry and a further 17 in connection with historic allegations elsewhere including two from England.
It is expected that some of those could be referred to the inquiry by the head of the National Crime Agency set up following the BBC report earlier this month.
The Independent has also learnt that a number of leading child abuse lawyers have been contacted in recent days by victims claiming their memories of abuse have been rekindled by the publicity.
Yesterday however senior peers said a judicial review of the four-year Waterhouse inquiry into the care home scandal ordered by the Prime Minister should now be scrapped following the retraction by abuse victim Steven Messham.
Lord Berwick, a former Appeal Court judge, said further inquiry by Mrs Justice Julia Macur was now irrelevant. He was backed by Lord Mackay of Clashfern, the former Conservative Lord Chancellor, and Baroness Butler-Sloss, also a retired judge.
“There is no longer any need for another high court judge to go over the work done by Sir Ronald Waterhouse and that on the contrary we should all be grateful for the impeccable nature of his inquiry and the thoroughness of his report,” Lord Lloyd said.
But Liberal Democrat Justice Minister Lord McNally, said the review would continue in light of accusations over alleged shortcomings.
Meanwhile Lancashire Police urged anyone who believed they were the victim of sexual abuse by the late Sir Cyril Smith to come forward. The former Rochdale MP was accused by Labour MP Simon Danczuk.
Whatever is going on after the latest bits I have about zero expectations of any of this as it stands getting to grips with what has gone wrong here.
Unless something has the remit to look at absolutely everything, how do you even begin to do that with something this massive? It's all interlinked. And if not in public how will we ever know the same mistakes and cover-ups as before aren't being done again.
Lord Berwick, a former Appeal Court judge, said further inquiry by Mrs Justice Julia Macur was now irrelevant. He was backed by Lord Mackay of Clashfern, the former Conservative Lord Chancellor, and Baroness Butler-Sloss, also a retired judge.
There is no longer any need for another high court judge to go over the work done by Sir Ronald Waterhouse and that on the contrary we should all be grateful for the impeccable nature of his inquiry and the thoroughness of his report, Lord Lloyd said.
I think there's a huge danger here that all these various enquiries will trip over each other and that they will put off potential witnesses from coming forward because there is no clear outcome.
For example, Dame Janet Smith has put out a call for witnesses in respect of abuse by Savile - but hers is an inquiry into the corporate practices of the BBC. I can't see that victims would want to put themselves through that for the sake of righting (or not righting) damn corporate practices.
On the other hand, a single overarching enquiry would take far too long and probably trip over itself.
In my mind, there probably ought to be two enquiries. One into actual child abuse, and give the damn enquiry the power to prosecute so that witnesses don't have to go through it all more than once, so that it cannot be interfered with by some combination of parliament/government/police/CPS/whoever. There's no reason an enquiry should not have that power (hell, even the RSPCA can prosecute). Such an enquiry could not be fully public though, for the protection of witnesses and evidence and of not damaging the course of the ensuing trials.
The second should be into the institutions, every last one of them. Parliament/police/CPS/Care homes/local authorities/churches/hospitals/schools/charities and whatever else is thrown up by the first one. It should be required to give interim reports and empowered to require actions and discovery of documents as well as questioning witnesses. Otherwise it'll never end because the whole thing is too big.
Thanks, very informative.
The inability to prosecute in all this to date has been the most baffling, and the most suspect.
Lord Berwick, a former Appeal Court judge, said further inquiry by Mrs Justice Julia Macur was now irrelevant. He was backed by Lord Mackay of Clashfern, the former Conservative Lord Chancellor, and Baroness Butler-Sloss, also a retired judge.
Good god... my head is spinning just trying to make sense of this all. Thank you to DECK'ARD for his post, is there a good quick update on the most recent developments? I'm just jumping in now and this is hard to follow.
Be interested to know if there was any legal action taken against Scallywag over that article - naming Laud, McAlpine and others like that would surely have caused some consternation on their part?
In 1993 it was sued under English libel law by the then Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, John Major, over reporting rumours that he had had an affair with a Downing Street caterer, even though it had said the allegations were false. By also suing the magazine's distributors, he received a settlement from them, and they passed the costs onto the magazine. Scallywag's financial position never recovered.
Be interested to know if there was any legal action taken against Scallywag over that article - naming Laud, McAlpine and others like that would surely have caused some consternation on their part?
In 1989, Regan founded Scallywag magazine in South Dorset when the lure of journalism drew him back from his retirement in Butterfly World on Lodmoor Park, Weymouth. Initially Scallywag was a local magazine seeking to expose local issues. A recurrent theme was illegal tipping on the nearby Lodmoor refuse deport where he accused council staff of taking bribes to allow dangerous chemicals to be tipped. He also claimed widespread police corruption associated with Freemasonry in Dorset and claimed to have been beaten up by two off-duty policemen in College Lane, Weymouth. He also 'named and shamed' people he perceived as being paedophiles. However, like so many of his campaigns, no substantial legally acceptable evidence was ever produced.
Regan was inspired by the early years of Private Eye, but he felt that the Eye had become too cautious of libel actions and determined not to fall into the same trap. At one difficult time he sold Scallywag to a friend, who had no assets, which allowed Regan greater freedom to pursue stories. Scallywag started to attract a loyal readership, although the major newspaper distributors refused to handle it (a situation Regan regarded as tantamount to censorship). Nevertheless in 1991 Scallywag moved to London and became a national publication.
Scallywag became a news story in itself in 1993 when it stoked a rumour that John Major, then Prime Minister, was having an affair with Clare Latimer, who was a freelance cook who helped with state dinners at 10 Downing Street. A story in the New Statesman showed how the rumours had been covertly mentioned in mainstream papers. When Major heard of the New Statesman story he sued both them and Scallywag for libel; he also sued the distributors and printers of both papers, which contributed to nearly driving the New Statesman out of business.
Clare Latimer later claimed that "Mr Major used her as a "decoy" to prevent what would have been the more politically damaging exposure of the affair he had with Mrs Currie from 1984 to 1988."[8] New Statesman editor Peter Wilby said that, had Major's previous adultery been known at the time of the libel case, the outcome may have been different.
Out of business
Scallywag limped on but a 1994 story about Conservative politician Julian Lewis led to another series of libel actions which the magazine lost comprehensively. Scallywag disappeared from print and moved to a site on the World Wide Web instead. Lewis followed and won damages from Scallywag's internet service provider, closing the site down.
Regan responded by accusing Lewis of lying, and decided to attempt to sabotage Lewis' campaign in New Forest East where he was Conservative candidate for the 1997 election. Unfortunately for Regan, Lewis was aware of an obscure section of electoral law and when he obtained a taped confession from Regan that his aim was to cost Lewis votes, Lewis was able to get Regan convicted of spreading false statements about an election candidate.
The Wikipedia page is impressively short, they were sued but not by them:
SNIP
That would be the John Major who we now know was having an affair with Edwina Currie.
The Government effectively bankrupted them.
There was, to my certain knowledge, at least one resignation from the Conservative office in Smith Square once we had published our evidence and named names.
Subsequently, over a rent dispute which is still a matter of litigation, Dr. Julian Lewis, now Conservative MP for New Forest (East) but then deputy head of research at Conservative Central Office in Smith Square, managed to purchase the contents of our offices, which included all our files. It had been alleged that we owed rent, which we disputed, but under a court order the landlords were able to change the locks and seize our assets which included all our files, including those we had made on paedophiles. It was apparently quite legal, but it was most certainly a dirty trick.
All of a sudden very private information, some of it even privileged between ourselves and our lawyer during the John Major libel action, was being published in selected, pro-Conservative sections of the media.
Subsequently, during a court case initiated by Lewis, I was able in my defence to seek discovery of documents and asked to see the seized files. The paedophile papers were missing. This is a very great shame, because Sir Ronald Waterhouse certainly should have been aware of them...
Cameron isn't too far from the doors that are being opened himself.
Everything from that October 5th blog is being confirmed so far:
http://www.ccs-rochford.co.uk/spivey/?p=6251