Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey - July 2026

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(Achaeans at the gates of Troy by Giuseppe Rava)

Maybe Nolan thinks it would be box office poison to go for a proper Bronze Age vision. With LotR-level attention to detail and care though it would be watched for 100 years.
He needs to grow a pair. I would definitely watch a proper Bronze Age version of The Odyssey. As it stands I'm undecided. The casting has put me off.
 
It's time we all came around and admit that this guy hasn't put out a decent flick since Dark Knight.

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Admit? They can write "Christopher Nolan fucking rules" on my gravestone decades from now, and my spirit would only be slightly upset due to the quote not actually being about me, even if the quote itself is 100% accurate in my opinion.
 
Cast is weird but I trust Nolan.
I don't love all of his movies but I've yet to see one I disliked.

Also please put at least a cover or something of one of the best metal song in the credits:

Or give them funding to rerecord it with a real orchestra so the orchestral parts don't sound like Ps1 era midi lol


I almost posted the album art without noticing your post, along with: Cool now try mentally cropping Matt Damon into this image.

But yeah, I loved those guys and went to a few of their shows. I still have this CD.

Romeo helped with MIDI melodies on guitar because there were too many tracks for 1 keyboard guy to perform live (no prerecord). The bombastic opening had many opportunities guitar was otherwise absent for him to take over and smooth it all together between punches. The dude's brain is incalculable to me.
 
Like it or not, here is the design aesthetic the suits THINK we want...

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So you will get your silly fantasy armor AND YOU WILL LIKE IT!!!!
 
Like it or not, here is the design aesthetic the suits THINK we want...

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So you will get your silly fantasy armor AND YOU WILL LIKE IT!!!!
At least in 300's case, it's mostly faithful to Frank Miller's mythological retelling of the story -- where the heroes were all naked in the graphic novel rather than realistically armored -- which I assume was a callback to the heroic nude artistic representations from antiquity.
 
Yes, that's my understanding as well. You can see the same thing in action in Ancient Greek art, like this red Attic cup showing Odysseus with a Corinthian era helmet:

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So the story does get reinterpreted through the ages, both in the process of being codified through Homer and after as well. But we can roughly place its origins and we have archaeological evidence for the events of the Iliad et al. And even without that and only going by Homer's descriptions, it's quite clear that our heroes had gleaming golden bronze armor. The elaborate bronze armor sets are very striking in The Iliad especially, with the armies fighting over possession of them after a legendary warrior falls in battle.

Demigods like Achilles makes a lot more sense historically when we discover items like the dendra panalopoly. Palace elites clad in bronze plate riding chariots versus the common footsoldier with a stone mace, flint arrows and perhaps a copper axe or spearhead if he was lucky.
 
Demigods like Achilles makes a lot more sense historically when we discover items like the dendra panalopoly. Palace elites clad in bronze plate riding chariots versus the common footsoldier with a stone mace, flint arrows and perhaps a copper axe or spearhead if he was lucky.
Same thing with meteoric iron being used to make 'mythic' weapons in an era of bronze.

I've tried to find someone making bronze era knives just to see how well they fare compared to steel but it's surprisingly hard other than decorative "ritualistic" copper knife like things or whatnot.
 
Same thing with meteoric iron being used to make 'mythic' weapons in an era of bronze.

I've tried to find someone making bronze era knives just to see how well they fare compared to steel but it's surprisingly hard other than decorative "ritualistic" copper knife like things or whatnot.

Aye, the copper and bronze ages are pure magic to me. Ingenious people discovering material properties through trial and error.

A lot of modern bronze replicas don't seem to be work hardened at all, just cast and polished. It's a lost art I suppose, those who can do it will charge a premium, and rightfully so.

I don't think I've ever seen arsenical bronze either rather than tin bronze. :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
The helmet made of boar tusks Odysseus wore in the Iliad (type recently discovered by archaeologists):
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Some examples of more period accurate Mycenaean Greek armor


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Artistic impression of Odysseus in light gear


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Original Mycenaean Dendra armor:

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The average movie goer could not cope with this armor. Too much conditioning to see what we consider aesthetically pleasing.
 
The average movie goer could not cope with this armor. Too much conditioning to see what we consider aesthetically pleasing.
See, that's what that 100 mollion dollar marketing budget is for. Educate the audience that they are about to see the most accurate vision into the past EVER.

Same with Jurrassic Park. They spent MONTHS training us for a horizontal t-rex after DECADES of seeing them stand up right.

Embrace the truth! Challenge the audience! This is supposed to be ART, not a vehicle for laundering money and a tax shelter for bored billionaires.
 
The average movie goer could not cope with this armor. Too much conditioning to see what we consider aesthetically pleasing.
I think it's possible to meet it part of the way and push into new cinematic territory, using bronze aesthetically to capture the essence of the time. Throw a glimmering golden bronze breastplate in there and fabric as secondary. Lose the leather, especially the leather bracers. Doesn't have to be the Michelin man Dendra armor.
 
Wait is that the Trojan Horse?
If that is a "grown man sized" ladder there for scale (proportionally or actual size) then it must be. Interesting to get away from the 'practical' wagon wheeled effigy representation we've gotten for the past.....long while. This film may be a lot more fantastical in aesthetic than I was expecting from Nolan.
 
Dark Knight Rises and Tenet I'd say where pretty poor, Rises had some great scenes as do all his movies but there was some really stupid shit and decisions made in that movie and coming off the back of the absolute classic Dark Knight it really pales in comparison, as for Tenet.. I dunno, I don't think he pulled it off, the action scenes where pretty standard and the whole backwards time thing was too bloody confusing on first watch, Oppenheimer was just OK, well acted but a bit boring and I was really underwhelmed at the actual detonation
To me he peaked with Inception and The Dark Knight Rises. I hope he reaches those highs again. It might require him getting to finally make a Bond movie, but personally I'd love to see one Star Wars movie from him(never gonna happen).
 
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