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Chuck versus the NeoGAF - The Official Season 4 Thread - Mondays on NBC

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RevoDS

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PhoncipleBone said:
Timothy Dalton rules. That is all.
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This x10000000

He was amazing in that scene where he learns about Chuck and Ellie. His acting is just so perfect in every situation so far...

Dear writers, please don't kill off Volkoff in the season finale like you did Fulcrum and The Ring.

Love, ChuckGAF.
 
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PhoncipleBone

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Little anti climatic. Unless my prediction comes true that it permanently puts the information into his brain and he never has to flash it again. He flashes once, and it is permanent.

And no preview for next week? We dont have anything new until January now or something?


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That wasn't a normal flash. Whoever said Intersect 3.0...could be right?
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Lessee if I called it. Do I win a cookie?
 
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RevoDS

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PhoncipleBone said:
Little anti climatic. Unless my prediction comes true that it permanently puts the information into his brain and he never has to flash it again. He flashes once, and it is permanent.

And no preview for next week? We dont have anything new until January now or something?
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Yep, The Sing-Off is taking over in December. Chuck will be back sometime in January.
 
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BJK

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And the Intersect 'will he' / 'won't he' cycle starts anew.

(We didn't even find out how the PSP worked!)


I liked the episode itself, but the show seems to be taking the easy way out of the larger plot elements.
 
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Solo

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Very good episode. Let me get my 2 beefs out of the way first thing, however. First and foremost, I'm sorry, but nerd-service aside, Linda Hamilton was TERRIBLE casting for Mamma Bartowski. Too much botox, not enough personality or acting chops. She always has a weird grin on her face and speaks almost entirely monotone. Scott Bakula brought warmth and personality to Papa B and made the role very memorable, whereas Hamilton is failing at every turn. Second, color me disappointed if the Intersect 3.0 is just the 2.0 (AKA I do kung fu and nothing fucking else...boring) without the need to flash. On the flip side, as awful as Hamilton is, Timothy Dalton is fucking note perfect in his portayal of Volkov. The way he jumps from venomous to soft-spoken, ruthless to comical is really something brilliant. You feel terrified when he is angry and making threats, and then you find him incredibly funny and endearing when he is playing nice. Inspired piece of casting right there.

- Chuck (at Strip-Kick): “Casey can never know about this” :lol
- loved Morgan’s “guess who has two thumbs and is taken?”
- Morgan as John McClane :lol
- Volkov playing charades :lol :lol :lol
- loved the return of Chuck’s “I need you to be awesome”
- damn, Volkov’s female henchman is sexy – hope she returns
- “Guys, I know kung fu. Again” made me chuckle
- no preview with a 2 month break coming – are you fucking kidding me?
 
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PhoncipleBone

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BJK said:
And the Intersect 'will he' / 'won't he' cycle starts anew.

(We didn't even find out how the PSP worked!)


I liked the episode itself, but the show seems to be taking the easy way out of the larger plot elements.
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PSP was the first part of the permanent overwrite. The laptop was just the key to finish the install. Remember, she said that "your father didn't want you to see this." or something like that. Daddy didn't want it permanent, but set things in place to make it so.
 
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impirius

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Die Hard Morgan was great. Family Man Volkoff was the kind of thing that no other show can do, and Dalton was just fantastic.

Great episode!
 
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CzarTim

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BJK said:
I liked the episode itself, but the show seems to be taking the easy way out of the larger plot elements.
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100% Agreed.

I guess there are no repercussions from the memory thing last episode?
 
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Penguin

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Solo said:
- no preview with a 2 month break coming – are you fucking kidding me?
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Two months?
Two months?
As in, we won't get it into Feb?
I thought it would be back in Jan. What am I gonna do on Mondays. :(
 
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Apoc29

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They should have brought Sgt. Al Powell back for this ep :lol

So Chuck gets the Intersect from the computer. What does Ellie get? Some brain scans? Hopefully they'll follow up on that.
 
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stuminus3

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Oh my God, Morgan's Die Hard routine... I think my wife was a little worried about me, in our 7 years or marriage she's never seen me laugh so hard or so loud as when Morgan had his gun taped to his back.

Linda Hamilton literally appears to be melting, it's a little disturbing. Timothy Dalton is incredible though.
 
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RevoDS

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celebi23 said:
WTF??!?!? Fucking NBC :( It seems like Chuck always gets the shaft :/
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Have you seen their midseason schedule? Chuck is one of very few shows to retain its time slot for the whole year. Parenthood is going to get killed on Mondays...starting in March, The Event is coming back on Feb. 28 after 8 weeks of The Cape, and Chase is getting the slot against American Idol.

Chuck's actually got it pretty damn good in terms of airing consistency this year. It might be a little longer than a traditional break, but it's no biggie.
 
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celebi23

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RevoDS said:
Have you seen their midseason schedule? Chuck is one of very few shows to retain its time slot for the whole year. Parenthood is going to get killed on Mondays...starting in March, The Event is coming back on Feb. 28 after 8 weeks of The Cape, and Chase is getting the slot against American Idol.

Chuck's actually got it pretty damn good in terms of airing consistency this year. It might be a little longer than a traditional break, but it's no biggie.
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Sorry, I guess it was just a reflex :lol I get defensive whenever NBC moves shows/put shows on a break. I'm still bitter about:
*Kings
*My Own Worst Enemy
*Journeyman
*Black Donnellys
(I'm probably forgetting some more)
 
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CzarTim

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celebi23 said:
Sorry, I guess it was just a reflex :lol I get defensive whenever NBC moves shows/put shows on a break. I'm still bitter about:
*Kings
*My Own Worst Enemy
*Journeyman
*Black Donnellys
(I'm probably forgetting some more)
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We've had 4 full seasons with Chuck, and there's a good possibility of more. Calm down :)
 
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Cornballer

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Dalton is the best! :lol

Good episode tonight. Loved all the Die Hard references w/ Morgan. Volkoff is insane. Nice to get more of Awesome and Ellie this week. The re-intersecting felt like a bit of a cop-out, but I guess we'll see what kind of intersect it is when the show comes back.
 
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Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Dalton acting all simpering towards Frost was pretty funny, but I'm rather disappointed that the laptop just contained the intersect again. I mean, that's not really interesting since he had the intersect 2 episodes ago and the scenario surrounding how he got it again is incredibly implausible.

RevoDS said:
Have you seen their midseason schedule? Chuck is one of very few shows to retain its time slot for the whole year. Parenthood is going to get killed on Mondays...starting in March, The Event is coming back on Feb. 28 after 8 weeks of The Cape, and Chase is getting the slot against American Idol.

Chuck's actually got it pretty damn good in terms of airing consistency this year. It might be a little longer than a traditional break, but it's no biggie.
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That is an entirely normal midseason break actually.
 
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RevoDS

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Cornballer said:
Dalton is the best! :lol

Good episode tonight. Loved all the Die Hard references w/ Morgan. Volkoff is insane. Nice to get more of Awesome and Ellie this week. The re-intersecting felt like a bit of a cop-out, but I guess we'll see what kind of intersect it is when the show comes back.
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In hindsight, I think I'd have preferred last week's episode as a fall finale. Last week's cliffhanger was much better; it left me awestruck for a good while, whereas this one was a bit meh, simply ending the last few weeks' story arcs and nothing more to keep us on our seats waiting for January to come by. I remember you saying you thought things would get interesting around this time - the opposite seems true. The stakes of two weeks ago (Chuck being captive), and mythology cliffhanger of last week (Ellie/Awesome see...what?) have been replaced with a simple kung fu flash that may or may not be different, and a callback joke to vs. the Ring.

Leftovers was a fun episode and keeps on the recent roll the show's been on. But as a pre-break finale, it's just not that big of a hook. It would've been a good premiere for January though ;)
 
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Cornballer

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- Sepinwall's review

Music:
This week in "Chuck" music: "Turn It Around" by Miss Eighty 6 (Chuck and Morgan enter the strip kick class), "Bad Romance" by Lady Gaga (Chuck and Morgan strip-kicking), "Let It Snow" by Vaughn Monroe (Chuck and Sarah ambushed by the assassins) and "Jingle Bell Rock" by Bobby Helms (Volkoff having fun at Awesome and Ellie's apartment).
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mm04

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Dalton was both making me laugh out loud and unsettling me with his evil side. He was brilliant in this episode.
 
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Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The fact that the laptop just magically gave Chuck his powers back was just a total bit of fridge logic.

I mean, how coincidental is it that Ellie decides to think about Orion and get his car that happens to have a backup Intersect 2.0, right when Chuck happens to have his powers blocked. I mean, it has a question that only Ellie could solve, then randomly a question only Chuck could solve, and immediately shows Chuck Intersect 2.0 (despite the fact that as far as Orion knew, Chuck already HAD intersect 2.0)

It's dangerously close to plot-hole territory.
 
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thetechkid

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Angry Grimace said:
The fact that the laptop just magically gave Chuck his powers back was just a total bit of fridge logic.

I mean, how coincidental is it that Ellie decides to think about Orion and get his car that happens to have a backup Intersect 2.0, right when Chuck happens to have his powers blocked. I mean, it has a question that only Ellie could solve, then randomly a question only Chuck could solve, and immediately shows Chuck Intersect 2.0 (despite the fact that as far as Orion knew, Chuck already HAD intersect 2.0)

It's dangerously close to plot-hole territory.
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:lol Dude have you seen how Chuck got Intercept 1.0 or 2.0? Not exactly logical.
 
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RevoDS

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Angry Grimace said:
The fact that the laptop just magically gave Chuck his powers back was just a total bit of fridge logic.

I mean, how coincidental is it that Ellie decides to think about Orion and get his car that happens to have a backup Intersect 2.0, right when Chuck happens to have his powers blocked. I mean, it has a question that only Ellie could solve, then randomly a question only Chuck could solve, and immediately shows Chuck Intersect 2.0 (despite the fact that as far as Orion knew, Chuck already HAD intersect 2.0)

It's dangerously close to plot-hole territory.
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I've come to accept that Stephen Bartowski was some sort of magical being that somehow knows the future in advance and knows exactly what to do to get it to happen his way. Not the first time it happens, certainly not the last, and it kinda fits the character. Maybe he had invented a time machine of some sort.
 
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CzarTim

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RevoDS said:
I've come to accept that Stephen Bartowski was some sort of magical being that somehow knows the future in advance and knows exactly what to do to get it to happen his way. Not the first time it happens, certainly not the last, and it kinda fits the character. Maybe he had invented a time machine of some sort.
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BoboBrazil

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What was up with the look Ellie and Awesome gave at the end of the last episode looking at the laptop when they unlocked it, only for that not to be mentioned at all this episode?
 
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PhoncipleBone

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BoboBrazil said:
What was up with the look Ellie and Awesome gave at the end of the last episode looking at the laptop when they unlocked it, only for that not to be mentioned at all this episode?
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Brain scans and whatnot. Ellie was working on it in the lab.
 
BJK

BJK

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Angry Grimace said:
The fact that the laptop just magically gave Chuck his powers back was just a total bit of fridge logic.

I mean, how coincidental is it that Ellie decides to think about Orion and get his car that happens to have a backup Intersect 2.0, right when Chuck happens to have his powers blocked. I mean, it has a question that only Ellie could solve, then randomly a question only Chuck could solve, and immediately shows Chuck Intersect 2.0 (despite the fact that as far as Orion knew, Chuck already HAD intersect 2.0)

It's dangerously close to plot-hole territory.
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Lest we forget, when Papa Bartowski shed the mortal coil, he was wearing a watch to 'regulate' the intersect, as it was causing brain damage to the user (leading to Chuck's institutionalization - and Merlin.jpg - in Season 3). Since he didn't have all the answers, it's only logical that he would have intended to bring it up with his neurosurgeon daughter.


Yeah, it does seem over-the-top for him to have left that information in a way that only Ellie could access after he died....but it's not paranoia if people are actually trying to kill you, and Orion had more than his share of enemies.
 
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NotTheGuyYouKill

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Just remembered this. There's that scene where Dalton pulls a gun on Chuck and then cocks the hammer and just says "I didn't need to do that, I just like the sound." So funny :lol :lol :lol
 
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Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I would be remiss if I failed to mention how hot Volkov's henchgirl was.
 
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