No. There's a reason why all these movies have big third act battles because that's an entertainment factor. Tony wouldn't try to kill Cap or Bucky.
He did, though. It's in the only authoritative text we have that describes his choices.
No. There's a reason why all these movies have big third act battles because that's an entertainment factor. Tony wouldn't try to kill Cap or Bucky.
Oh, the irony of criticizing the movies as simple and poorly written while missing surface level details that easily refute most of their criticisms. If it's not deliberately missing the point, it's plain dumb.
He did, though. It's in the only authoritative text we have that describes his choices.
I don't think you understand that these movies need a big third act. The movies would be 100% different if they weren't made from an popcorn entertainment angle.
Shit, it's almost like Tony feeling responsible for the shit he caused changed his outlook, whilst Steve's perspective on the complex morality of the modern world have pulled him away from being a government stooge.
Cap knows he's going to be used as a weapon. Why would anyone smart willingly become property?
Stark: Because he spent previous films doing his own thing and it didn't work. This is his mea culpa.
Cap: Because he spent a previous film finding out the people he was taking orders from were horribly corrupt.
You're trying to backstop to comic motivations, instead of looking at the actual characters in the film.
In The Winter Soldier we see Cap criticizing Fury for creating a Surveillance State and in the End the Government Agency in control of Surveillance tools turns out to be infiltrated with Nazis.
He already showed in Winter Soldier that he isn't a lapdog of the government and the events of Winter Soldier likely strengthened his views, because he didn't join the government after Shield.
Did some people skip the other movies and went straight to CW .
It is rather easy to see how Tony and Cap change sides and how they think.
"The hypothetical movie that would exist if only they listened to me" is not an authoritative source.
The Avengers are blamed for what happened in Africa.
Character motivations.
Cap on the other hand feels that the safest hands are still his own. Why? Because he's Captain fucking America.
Black panther.
Zemo.
Spider-man.
Yeah. Zemo is definitely a plot baby. Nothing feels earned. This movie it's so bad, so stupid that I felt offended while watching it. A film made for peasants to consume while munching on pop corn, and sipping oversized soda.
true, why not make a thread about how dope wonder woman is instead of putting all this time into a parody thread
So you're saying if a movie wasn't focused on being an action blockbuster, it would still have the same ending?
saw the thread title on mobile and knew immediately who made it 😂
I...am not sure how you got that from what I'm saying.
I'm saying that you might think the movie might be different, but, like, that doesn't actually change the characters as they were revealed to us, and they were revealed to us by the movie that was actually made.
Your argument seems to postulate that the characters exist independently of the movies. They don't. (I mean, they do, but the characters in the comic books are not the same as the characters in the movies. Otherwise there's kind of a huge continuity problem where Steve is doing all this stuff despite being a secret Hydra agent.)
Guys, obviously I know all that. I was making fun of Chuck Norris.
The characters choices are defined by there being an explosive third act. I'm not sure how you do not get this.
I get that you're arguing that, I'm just not sure why it matters even if it is true. The fact that the character's choices are driven by the demands of the medium doesn't make them not the character's choices.
This was good. Got a chuckle.To be fair, that sounds like a very civilized war.
Not as bad as a movie whose plot device was a jar of urine.The original comic doesn't make sense either so it was kind of expected that the movie would be pretty bad.
I can never get a read on you, if you're not a gimmick account, I feel sorry for youYeah. Zemo is definitely a plot baby. Nothing feels earned. This movie it's so bad, so stupid that I felt offended while watching it. A film made for peasants to consume while munching on pop corn, and sipping oversized soda.
AyI was actually going to make this thread a while ago but not even for the Africa thing. The UN or whoever runs the government blames the Avengers for collateral damage for the previous movies. THE SKY OPENS UP AND A GIANT MECHANICAL SNAKE 500 STORIES HIGH CLIMBS OUT AND DESTROYS NEW YORK....like the world would have ended a few times if it weren't for the Avengers.
Man this thread devolved into 'but BvS is worse'.
I feel the OP was bait, but ya'll should have known better than to fall for it.
Civil War is a good film, though I personally find it vastly overrated (enjoyed TWS, both GotG movies and the first avengers much much more). Felt like a avengers-lite to me.
Guess I'm in the minority again, on rewatches I mostly end up skipping a lot of CW, but watch BvS all the way through (even the Martha scene).
I was actually going to make this thread a while ago but not even for the Africa thing. The UN or whoever runs the government blames the Avengers for collateral damage for the previous movies. THE SKY OPENS UP AND A GIANT MECHANICAL SNAKE 500 STORIES HIGH CLIMBS OUT AND DESTROYS NEW YORK....like the world would have ended a few times if it weren't for the Avengers.
First guardians is way overrated. Haven't seen 2.
The Avengers movies aren't well-written.
Ay
Don't worry bout it
I believe the constant thought is if the Avengers weren't around, then that never happens. Which is wrong but they don't know that. They just know they have people to blame.
I should parody BVS shitting threads and copy and paste the same complaints and use them for Civil War.