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Civilization V |OT| of Losing My Religion, And I Feel Fine...
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platypotamus
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Zzoram said:
I never got the Magellan one either
DurielBlack
Member
czartim said:Yeah.
Wait, they really did take that out?
I forsee I will not be seeing much of the diplomacy screen at all in Civ V. Technology trading seems like a bust, and now no map trading?
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3181540Norante said:
DurielBlack
Member
zoku88 said:
Admittedly I only have had enough time with the game to do one Research Treaty but it seemed about worthless. For 600 gold and 90 turns I could get a new random tech. Now this was marathon mode but 90 turns seemed a bit far-fetched when every available tech to be researched on my tree at the time could have been done in about 30-35 turns.
You also don't get to control the tech you get, and may end up with something thats worthless to your plans.
I'll reserve final judgement for when I have had more play time.
Oh, and its one more thing you can't trade to civs to keep them happy or to get access to strategic resources which are even more key now that they are limited.
Well, I mean. It's true that you could research a tech or two at the same time that you could do a research agreement for, however, does that really matter? Cleary, 3 techs during the period that you're talking about is better than the 2 that you said you could get done in that frame.DurielBlack said:
Anyway, none of that matters. Tech trading always seemd kind of "cheap" to me.
Bidermaier
Member
how laptop friendy is this game? Mine has kinda ok graphic card. Ati 4570. I could play Mass Effect and similar games. Core2Duo and 4GB.
Tech trading is especially difficult to balance in this game when they clearly didn't want you grabbing techs left and right. Some of the dependencies make it so that you pretty much need all of them to advance.
I personally find myself enjoying Civ V way more than Civ IV. The reduced number of units means way less tedious micromanagement of 100+ units.
I think the people having trouble enjoying it are just trying to play it like Civ IV. This game has different rules and needs to be played differently. Production is scarce so you can't waste hammers on stuff you don't need, really forcing you to specialize at all difficulties in a way that only Diety did in Civ IV. As for playing peaceful victories, just make a few troops and put them on your borders and don't sign open borders with anyone. The AI won't attack you because they won't be able to tell how much of an army you have but can see several military units at the border defending (works as long as they're not too outdated).
The lack of tech trading is fine, the new system is more balanced and helps both parties equally whereas the old system the AI would always demand much higher value techs from you for outdated tech from them. All it did was make the game harder because every trade with the AI would put you further behind (especially at higher difficulties).
Combat is so much improved that I don't hate it anymore and will do the occasional Domination or Conquest. In Civ IV I would just always go for Space Race or Cultural Victory because I hated micromanaging hundreds of units in the Modern Era. I would just befriend someone strong and sign a defense pact, after which point nobody would ever attack us.
I think the people having trouble enjoying it are just trying to play it like Civ IV. This game has different rules and needs to be played differently. Production is scarce so you can't waste hammers on stuff you don't need, really forcing you to specialize at all difficulties in a way that only Diety did in Civ IV. As for playing peaceful victories, just make a few troops and put them on your borders and don't sign open borders with anyone. The AI won't attack you because they won't be able to tell how much of an army you have but can see several military units at the border defending (works as long as they're not too outdated).
The lack of tech trading is fine, the new system is more balanced and helps both parties equally whereas the old system the AI would always demand much higher value techs from you for outdated tech from them. All it did was make the game harder because every trade with the AI would put you further behind (especially at higher difficulties).
Combat is so much improved that I don't hate it anymore and will do the occasional Domination or Conquest. In Civ IV I would just always go for Space Race or Cultural Victory because I hated micromanaging hundreds of units in the Modern Era. I would just befriend someone strong and sign a defense pact, after which point nobody would ever attack us.
Rollo Lawson
Banned
this is a good game so far. one thing i like is that it takes away the tinge of urgency i felt in 4. everything is drawn out and metered so that you have plenty of time to micro-manage, which i love.
it doesnt seem to be as congratulatory as 4 when you build stuff. civ 4 seemed excited when you built a library lol. civ 5 is more like meh...whats next
i dont like the way you have coddle the city states to stay in their good graces. im pretty sure one day im gonna say fukkit and try to eliminate every one i meet
i miss the way you can see your troops defending a city in civ 4 too
overall i love the slower more meticulous pace of 5 so far, but for fun factor i gotta give it to 4. maybe my thoughts will change once i adapt
oh and like others, my game keeps crashing for no reason
it doesnt seem to be as congratulatory as 4 when you build stuff. civ 4 seemed excited when you built a library lol. civ 5 is more like meh...whats next
i dont like the way you have coddle the city states to stay in their good graces. im pretty sure one day im gonna say fukkit and try to eliminate every one i meet
i miss the way you can see your troops defending a city in civ 4 too
overall i love the slower more meticulous pace of 5 so far, but for fun factor i gotta give it to 4. maybe my thoughts will change once i adapt
oh and like others, my game keeps crashing for no reason
I agree with some of his points, but C is a pretty ludicrous score.
Civ V is not Civ IV, that was pretty clear from since they announced it, I'm pretty sure they pressed this fact. It's a different game that keeps most of the old assets, it's a sequel in name.
Judging it by saying "but but but Civ IV had this why doesn't V" is just retarded fanboyism. It should be viewed on its own merits. And the AI/bugs are pretty much the only valid complaints you can have about it.
Also, defending an imabalanced mechanic simply because AI could abuse it in lieu of better decision making is truly :lol worthy.
Civ V is not Civ IV, that was pretty clear from since they announced it, I'm pretty sure they pressed this fact. It's a different game that keeps most of the old assets, it's a sequel in name.
Judging it by saying "but but but Civ IV had this why doesn't V" is just retarded fanboyism. It should be viewed on its own merits. And the AI/bugs are pretty much the only valid complaints you can have about it.
Also, defending an imabalanced mechanic simply because AI could abuse it in lieu of better decision making is truly :lol worthy.
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Deleted member 30609
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The Giant Bomb QL reignited my urge to play this. Going to sink into the demo for an hour or two in a couple of minutes.
edit: Not that my urge ever faded, I've just been so preoccupied these last few days.
edit: Not that my urge ever faded, I've just been so preoccupied these last few days.
SolsticeZero
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Jenga said:
I think there are really only two classes of people. Those who like Civ, and those who suck at Civ. The haters are just the latter.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
Banned
Someone made a nice comparison post showing the topics shitting on Civ4 compared to Civ3 when it came out. Lots of the same things.Archie said:
I love both, but I really love Civ5 so far.
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
Yeah, I saw that thread. Civ5 can seem kinda barren compared to Civ4, but I think people are forgetting what vanilla Civ4 was like. That game had five years to mature into the product it is today. I'm sure Civ5 will be a totally different beast in 2015, and then people will bitch about Civ6 stating that it isn't as good as its prequel.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
Banned
Archie said:
My thoughts too, although I will say I've never warmed to Civ 3.
VGChampion
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I want 5 but I've barely put a dent in 4. I bought the complete pack on Steam two sales ago and still haven't even installed the expansions.
Half the time I'm stuck on the menu screen just to listen to Baba Yetu.
Half the time I'm stuck on the menu screen just to listen to Baba Yetu.
:lol :lolVGChampion said:I want 5 but I've barely put a dent in 4. I bought the complete pack on Steam two sales ago and still haven't even installed the expansions.
Half the time I'm stuck on the menu screen just to listen to Baba Yetu.
You could've just put the thing on windowed mode and played Baba Yetu in the background so that you could actually play the game :lol :lol
TheQueen'sOwn
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Just as I was getting ready to kick some ass the demo ended. Motherfucker.
This will be my first Civ game (and the end of my social life?).
This will be my first Civ game (and the end of my social life?).
Unless it's super complicated, I think all you need to do is convert the mp3 from Civ4 into a .wav file then just rename it to the file in \Assets\Sound\Streaming\ or whatever.Archie said:
Is the Civilopedia available in the main menu? If not they should patch that in soon, if at least to get more time with the main theme. Also, so I don't have to load up a game to read it or anything, like in Civ4.
Click the panel where your research is (top left corner), it'll open up a list where you can sort your units/cities/etc.Animator said:
MmmSkyscraper
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Setting the workers to auto is probably best for a new player, you've got enough going on elsewhere.Whoompthereitis said:
For military tips, building a barracks is good, gives units from that city a little boost. Stables should do the same for mounted units. Use your ranged units to soften up the enemy then send in your close combat bros. Terrain bonuses are nice unless the enemy is benefiting from them, so watch out for that. That might be Captain Obvious stuff but I'm just starting out myself, still waiting for the unlock, FFFUUUU...
theinfinityissue
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I've never seen the steam neogaf group so completely dominated by one title :lol
Guess I'll head back in and try the demo a few more times while lamenting the state of my funding.
Guess I'll head back in and try the demo a few more times while lamenting the state of my funding.