Civilization V |OT| of Losing My Religion, And I Feel Fine...
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eznark said:
No it's not. You just have to read so you check/uncheck and cancel appropriately. If you do, you won't install any 3rd party stuff, they just make it confusing for people who don't read. There is a point where even after unchecking everything, you are supposed to click cancel, not next, because it's actually switched to another installer and isn't even talking about OpenOffice but it's easy to miss if you just mash next.
Rapping Granny
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Sir Fragula said:
Sir Fragula
cry moar lol
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SlipperySlope
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What's this about a unit limit?
Human_Shield
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Holy crap, just got my cultural victory with Montezuma. Didn't think I was going to make it before 2050, but a shuffling of a tiles to production and cashing in every Great Person I had got me the victory in 2038. And a big fuck you to the king of Siam, who thought he could take my tiny three city nation with an army of elephants.
I don't think I ever say this, but I'm completely in love with this game.
I don't think I ever say this, but I'm completely in love with this game.
dream said:
Yeah, who wants full price games for a new release without the benefits of actually owning the game compared to a real retail release, the ability to sell/loan your games, not be limited by your internet connection or not lose access to your entire library of paid games because someone on a computer in another country decides to push a button.
See how that works? Really though you're not trying to understand, you're just trying to inflame. It doesn't take a genius to see both sides of this debate and to understand why someone would prefer one way over the other.
TheFreshPrince
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When trading resources with another civ....what does the 25 turns mean? That you will have access to the resource for 25 turns, or that it will take 25 turns to 'get' to the other civ?
Sir Fragula said:
Just because you don't like Steam and don't want to install it doesn't mean that it's "bloatware." It's essentially the PC equivalent of Xbox Live. Not to mention the installer is a grand total of 1.5MB.
EDIT: For the record, your beloved Paradox Interactive has almost their entire catalog on Steam.
Jay Shadow
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Access for 25 turns. Then the deal ends and you'll have to do it again.TheFreshPrince said:
Melhisedek
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You guys using any mods?
MrNyarlathotep
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Civ 5 requiring Steam was not exactly 'back of the box smallprint' months prior to release.
there were also multiple topics about it here on GAF, mostly descending into people who are fine with it, and people who have massive problems with it, which they will then reluctantly admit is nothing to do with what it is and how it does it right now, but that something bad might happen at some point in the future.
Let's do it all again!
there were also multiple topics about it here on GAF, mostly descending into people who are fine with it, and people who have massive problems with it, which they will then reluctantly admit is nothing to do with what it is and how it does it right now, but that something bad might happen at some point in the future.
Let's do it all again!
MrNyarlathotep
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To be honest, I'm amazed that a regular poster on GAF would not have noticed any of the 10+ page threads about Civ 5, often with the words steamworks in the title, or that you didn't do a bit of research about the game prior to picking it up, because to certain people steamworks integration is a huge (negative) deal and it has been brought up in multiple places.
I have some sympathy I guess for having been oblivious to all of this, and for whatever reason refusing to just accept Steam is currently all good stuff, but caveat emptor I guess.
It's always worth checking what kind of copy protection / DRM PC games have.
I have some sympathy I guess for having been oblivious to all of this, and for whatever reason refusing to just accept Steam is currently all good stuff, but caveat emptor I guess.
It's always worth checking what kind of copy protection / DRM PC games have.
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Deleted member 30609
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the guy is being irrational. it isn't like Steam will suddenly install a million other programs automatically or force itself to load on startup. It will quietly boot in the background when he double clicks the Civ V icon. It's no skin off my nose, but it sounds to me like he'd be better served to lower his own. it's a completely arbitrary stance.eznark said:
Exactly. I'd like to see anyone try to sell a recent PC game used. The concept is pretty much laughable at this point. And the other "points" about having to be online to play or your ability to play a game hinging on someone hovering their finger over a kill switch button are just total bullshit.Zzoram said:
TheQueen'sOwn
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I've had Steam on my computer since somewhere around 2003. Then, it was something to complain about. Not now.
EDIT: Apparently I had it in 2002.
Anyway, just picked up the full game. Can't wait to play
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EDIT: Apparently I had it in 2002.
Anyway, just picked up the full game. Can't wait to play
!erragal said:You're missing spices actually.
Puppet states do eventually start increasing social policy costs, but it's after a certain number. I have three in my Persia game and they haven't increased costs at all, but in my Aztec game I ended up with 11/12 and they started increasing with each one.
The map didn't have spices, or at least I never remember seeing them. There was also only one incense for the whole map, but the stupid city state never linked the resource and I had to conquer them to get it.
I barely had any puppet cities, maybe 5 at most, and I already saw the social policy costs increasing for each one I conquer. If what you're saying is true, then there must be another factor into determining the social policy costs rather than just purely puppet/annex.
eznark said:
The deluxe edition exclusive Civ, Babylonians :lol. They get a free great scientist when you research writing and has a faster great scientist generation rate I believe.
rhfb said:
Were you trying to do a cultural or a space victory? If you didn't know what you're going to do and played the game without a specific focus, then you'll have those issues. Otherwise it's pretty obvious what you need to do. For cultural, you need to get the cultural wonders and build a lot of cultural buildings. For science, you want high population cities, science buildings, and you can also make a lot of research agreements with other civs. You should also build your cities with their purpose in mind.
Sir Fragula said:
I'm sorry, but that is a bullshit excuse that you and everyone else that uses it, knows it is. It's fine that some people don't like Steam for whatever reason, albeit most are stupid reasons, most major PC game releases are gonna have some form of DRM. So either don't buy any major PC releases or find DRM that is tolerable. As for people bringing up not being able to sell/trade/buy used PC games, where the hell have you been the past 10 years?
Takes less than a minute to see that it requires Steam. Simply using Google, which my mother can even use, and she barely knows how to use a mouse.
Besides typing the names in the address/search box it's no more than 5 clicks to the page showing it requires Steam.
But please, keep complaining about the bloatware that is Steam. Prior to release I spent a whole evening just reading the Steam Rant thread on the civfanatics forums for the entertainment value and boy it was a fun read.
MrNyarlathotep
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dream said:
Which is pretty crappy if you just want a real-life clock in your UI so you have some awareness of just how late it's getting as you play.
...although steamworks to the rescue with that and its built in overlay with a clock in I guess
I came to the same conclusion, but this post on the strat section at CF is more detailed: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=382196 (the section marked: City Tile Yields)Zeliard said:
Basically, find the crappiest tile, but still in 3-hex length of any resources you want from the area so they can be worked, so you aren't 'wasting' (in the min/max sense) a good tile when you could put an improvement on it that would help you more since the game only takes the tile yield(s) if it is greater than what the city would normally give.
I think it's just starting a game from the mod menu right? Because I changed my menu music, but I've been picking up achievements regardless in my games using the regular SP menu options.dream said:
This! And also what is the best setup? Obviously hope for jungle tiles because you get +2 Science per worked jungle tile from the university building. I'm guessing go for something that expands fast and focus on expansion/science traits as well as micromanaging your specialists? What about research agreements?eznark said:
Like I said in a few posts before this one I went for a science or culture victory and just didn't have enough turns :|
platypotamus
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eznark said:
If you got the deluxe edition: Babylon by a good country mile.
Otherwise... not sure? I'd be tempted to try Greece with the patronage science perk.
Human_Shield said:
What's his culture bonus for defeated units like? How much culture/unit? Does it scale based on the unit's strength? Is it negligible? The info in civilpedia is unclear, and I was thinking about trying a culture game with him.
eznark said:
I grabbed one and it didn't seem to work :\ Might have been user error though.
platypotamus said:
Make sure when you play/load the game, you're doing it through the "Mods" section of the main menu. That is, open the game and when you're at the main menu click on "Mods", then in the sub-menu choose "Single Player", from there you can either setup a new game or load a previous save with any of the mods you've installed and enabled in the Mod Browser.