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Victory Red
Member
Yeah, we only search on Weds and Saturday. Its a good schedule.
I forgot to report here that after winning 10 in a row we tied a 50 win clan 121-121 in a 45 person war.
Two attacks were started within a minute of the final buzzer. It was the most entertaining poop of my life.
Apparently there is going to be an update. Supercell made a comment about how poor the economy is. Probably collectors lvl 12 and 13.
http://forum.supercell.net/showthread.php/374426-Seattle-stream-news-list
http://forum.supercell.net/showthread.php/374426-Seattle-stream-news-list
That is good news. I'm finding it quite a grind just to finish off upgrades in TH8. And I know town halls 9 and 10 are even worse. The loot was really flowing when they had that week with cheap collector boosts. It needs to be at that level all the time, given the costs to upgrade things now.
Victory Red
Member
Wow this game changes completely at Town Hall level 6. I was playing it super slowly never attacking anyone just building my defenses (never got attacked too). After I upped all my buildings to the limit I upgraded to Town Hall 6 and now I get attacked all the time
Town Hall 7 is where the game peaks. The troops start to get really good.
There is also a loot penalty for attacking lower town halls than yours. 10% for attacking one town hall lower and 50% for attacking two town halls lower.
So now that you are a th6, th7's can come through you and only suffer the 10% penalty instead of 50% when you were a th5.
That sucks.
That's why people opt to just place their th on the outside or in a corner. Trophy snipers will take out the th and leave your resources alone. Then you have a shield. Win.
Head of Vengarl
Banned
Yeah at TH6 and for a while in TH7 there isn't shit you can do against a Giant + Healer raid. I'm TH7 with maxed Mortars and one maxed Air Defense and I still usually lose over 60% of my base against that strategy. It's the most OP strategy at this level.
At TH6 you should be able to raid for more than you will ever lose in like 2 attacks. So fuck defense, just keep attacking and upgrading whatever you feel like. 6 and 7 are fun for raiding, not fun for high level wars.
Just started TH8. WHOOOOOOOP. Can't wait for lvl 5 troops.
Haha I'd join but I don't think I have the shields. I only have like sevenhundred some...
generaldane
Banned
At TH8 level 4 Giants feels like they are made out of paper I drop 20 of then and shift to another part of the base and by the time I look back the final 1 was dead..thank god lvl5 finishes tonight.
When I get home i can drop the trophy requirements if Waffle doesn't
When I get home i can drop the trophy requirements if Waffle doesn't
Wafflecakes
Member
Yeah, any gaffer can join.
The requirement is to keep out random bads. Though that probably is not necessary.
I will remove it when I get off work if generald doesn't beat me to it.
The requirement is to keep out random bads. Though that probably is not necessary.
I will remove it when I get off work if generald doesn't beat me to it.
I love that lull between town halls when all I have to upgrade is collectors and lagging research. I have so much purps to waste so I just make dragon armies and rampage all day for minimal gains.
You don't play all day at work? You'll never make it to the big leagues that way!
You don't play all day at work? You'll never make it to the big leagues that way!
Wafflecakes
Member
I am a full time high school teacher lol. Not a lot of opportunity.
Wafflecakes
Member
It is mainly just a group of people with a shared chat that can donate troops to each other and fight other clans.
The donated troops are in addition to any defenses or army that you already have.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
I'm at TH7 for a little over a week now.
I think TH7 is great fun.
Raiding is easy as cake. I can easily raid a million of each in a little less than an hour. (globins and archers and wall breakers between 1200 and 1400 trophies)
And you can also kill some lv 8, 9 and even 10 bases(3 stars pretty much impossible though) if you look for the right ones.
10 dragons, 3 lighting spells and then search for bases where you can easily get to the air defense or some of the air defense is getting upgraded. And you can kill one air defense with the lighting spells.
I think I'll stay at TH7 for a long time.
I think TH7 is great fun.
Raiding is easy as cake. I can easily raid a million of each in a little less than an hour. (globins and archers and wall breakers between 1200 and 1400 trophies)
And you can also kill some lv 8, 9 and even 10 bases(3 stars pretty much impossible though) if you look for the right ones.
10 dragons, 3 lighting spells and then search for bases where you can easily get to the air defense or some of the air defense is getting upgraded. And you can kill one air defense with the lighting spells.
I think I'll stay at TH7 for a long time.
TH7 is great, but I'm always yearning for better troops. When you attack with dragons it's better to have 20 archers and either another dragon in your CC or some powerful wizards. Use the archers to take out some of the bullshit buildings and create a straighter path for your dragons to follow to the core of the base. That's usually where the ADs are. As they begin to take AD damage, drop a heal or a rage. Then use another heal or rage as needed. Easiest way to 3 star TH 8. Barb king is also good and clearing a path to the center.
Victory Red
Member
Wafflecakes answered with the basics, but here is the lengthier version.
You have the ability to build a "Clan Castle" on your base (if you haven't already.)
When you join a clan, on the chat window there will be two tabs now, Global and Clan. You can request Clan Castle troops from your clan-mates. They will sit in your clan castle (not take away from your army camps) and defend your base if you were to get attacked.
If you would like to use those troops for offense, you can do that also... When you are attacking a base you will see an option to drop your clan castle. When you do that, everything that is in your CC will come pouring out.
Your clan can also chose to fight in Clan Wars, a new game mode. When one of your co-leaders starts a Clan Wars search, it will match your team up with another clan. You will have the first 24 hours to scout the other teams bases and plan your attacks and also donate to your clan mate's war clan castles for defense. After that 24hr period it will be War Day. You now have 24hours to attack two people on their team trying to get as many stars as possible in each attack. At the end of War Day, the team with the most stars wins.
Victory Red
Member
Yup, troops usually come out in strength order. So if you want to just release some gobs or archers from your CC then you can quickly quit as they are deploying.
Victory Red
Member
You gotta raid to make that paper tho
Yeah now that I get raided all the fucking time it's starting to look that way.
The way I tend to manage my time is to use up most of my shields to maximize production, then before it runs out start raiding and keep raiding hard out until I get raided myself and get another shield, or get bored/need to do something else.
That way you get at least one raid in on your terms before you get raided again and feel compelled to wait out your whole shield.
Wafflecakes
Member
Everyone goes through that feeling when they start. It takes a while to get the strategy and upgrade your troops/camps.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
The best tip I can give you is that the "next" button is your best friend.
You'll always find the perfect base to raid if you're patient enough.
What army do you use? The best resource gathering army is archers and barbarians. Usually between a 60-40 to 50-50 split. (more archers)
Victory Red
Member
Start by just training a whole bunch of Barbarians and Archers (50/50 split) and hitting the Next button until you find a "collector raid." This is where all the money that you see available is just sitting in the collectors (which are sitting outside the walls and easy to get to 90% of the time.)
You can tell the money is in the collectors by a few ways:
1.) The gold mines will be full when the pile next to the cart has a lot of gold in it. (not just 3 tiny pieces of gold, like overflowing with gold.)
These gold mines are stuffed to the rafters. They have not been "collected" by the village owner in quite some time.
2.) The elixir pumps will be full. You can see how much is in them by looking in the glass.
One is full, one is empty
3.) Check the main storages inside the base. If they look empty, and the collectors look full, then you are good to go.
In your spare time you can experiment with different armies that involve penetrating the base and trying to destroy as much as possible and get to the inner storages. But "collector raiding" is by far the must lucrative. By. Far.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Start by just training a whole bunch of Barbarians and Archers (50/50 split) and hitting the Next button until you find a "collector raid." This is where all the money that you see available is just sitting in the collectors (which are sitting outside the walls and easy to get to 90% of the time.)
You can tell the money is in the collectors by a few ways:
1.) The gold mines will be full when the pile next to the cart has a lot of gold in it. (not just 3 tiny pieces of gold, like overflowing with gold.)
These gold mines are stuffed to the rafters. They have not been "collected" by the village owner in quite some time.
2.) The elixir pumps will be full. You can see how much is in them by looking in the glass.
One is full, one is empty
3.) Check the main storages inside the base. If they look empty, and the collectors look full, then you are good to go.
In your spare time you can experiment with different armies that involve penetrating the base and trying to destroy as much as possible and get to the inner storages. But "collector raiding" is by far the must lucrative. By. Far.
Ha, i have never noticed this.
Upgrading my walls to lvl 8 then it´s th 10 for me. Max all of my defenses except for archer towers at level 10 all of them.
HOW THE FUCK are you TH 9 and didn't know that?
A couple more pro tips for finding abandoned bases:
1. Look at their league in the top left corner. If they do not have a league placement, then they probably haven't been on in a while to make a simple raid.
2. Look at their shrubbery. Most players will remove the "gem box" asap. If that is there also, then they are likely inactive.
3. Look at the builders huts. If you see them sleepign "zzz", then they are inactive and the collectors are full.
4. Know what each level looks like. If someone has a lot of money and you can't tell if it's in the collectors or the storage for some reason, you will find knowing the collectors level useful. If they are low level and they have a lot of money, then it's probably in the storages. If they are all high level and they have a lot of available money, then the money is in the collectors.
#4 is pretty nuanced, but good to keep in the back of your mind.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Haha, no dude you misunderstood. I meant to say i did not know about the full gold mines and elixir when i attack bases.
generaldane
Banned
Its amazing you didn't notice that I realized from I was like th6
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
I don´t pay much attention to the game. I just chat with my clan. It´s the reason why i play.
generaldane
Banned
As do I when I was in my original clan but after raiding a few times in th6 I realized that some collectors looked different
Victory Red
Member
The problem is when there is 75k-100k of each resource available and you need to determine where it is. The gold mine shows 3 little pieces of gold on the pile.
It may all be in the mines, it may not. There isn't enough money available to show an animation on the main storage either. So its a roll of the dice.
I usually skip dollar amounts that low, but now that I'm a TH10 the loot is so horrible I will go into a collector raid for $75K because I have to if I want to survive or spend another $100K nexting.
It may all be in the mines, it may not. There isn't enough money available to show an animation on the main storage either. So its a roll of the dice.
I usually skip dollar amounts that low, but now that I'm a TH10 the loot is so horrible I will go into a collector raid for $75K because I have to if I want to survive or spend another $100K nexting.
generaldane
Banned
I don't think I am going to leave TH8 tbh the price for upgrades are already way too ridiculous and I am not a man generally known for patience.
Just follow the coc rule of thumb: wait until everything is maxed out at your current th level.
I still need to get king lvl 4 & 5 and the two dark elixir unit upgrades. No reason to stay at a level once you maxed it out.
generaldane
Banned
That's pretty much what I have been doing..well mostly besides walls and storage, but I feel I won't be able to stand the grind anymore after TH8 especially with how shitty the raiding gets the higher you go up.
That's exactly what I was talking about. How the hell did you not know that? Do you gem everything?
Don't forget to include the time the TH upgrade takes into account. nothing like having 2-4 unused builders for 8+ days while your TH upgrades.
[combined construction hours remaining / (# of builders - 1) ] = TH upgrade time
When they are equal, you should upgrade.
Except that approach doesn't take upgrades into account. At least for me, the dark elixir upgrades are my final bottleneck (@7 atm). I've finished all of the building upgrades a week or so ago.
Maybe 7->8 is a special case, but I max everything I can before looking to upgrade my town hall.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
I'm at TH7 and I'm raiding with a few wallbreakers(5-6), a few wizards(7-10), a few giants(5) and about 50 goblins and 70 archers.
I really like that composition because I can penetrate most TH6 and some TH7 bases and still have enough goblins and archers to take out all the mines of abandoned th8, 9 and 10 bases.
Takes about 20-30min(now that wizards take 4mins to build) to rebuild this army. Today I raided 4 times in 1,5 hours and got about 700k gold, 650k elixir and 500 dark elixir and gained 25 trophies.
I tried only barbarians and archers but it didn't work out well for me.