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Cliff B lays the ownage on Nintendo
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RevenantKioku
PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS oh god i am drowning in them
Did he really say that about rubbing his testicles on the PSP?
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PSP sale -1
Duckhuntdog
Member
Wario64 said:
Well, wow. Annoying attention whore ain't he. Think those high school years are the root of the problem??
see, that's precisely why sce is better than nintendo: you get all the think tank experimentation without any of the grandiose rhetoric about SAVING THE VIDEOGAME INDUSTRY. "what's that? one of our designers is working on something that appears SOMEWHAT NOVEL? well, call a press conference! it's going to SAVE THE VIDEOGAME INDUSTRY!" someone needs to save nintendo from their own inflated self-image.
ah sony. where would videogames be without you.
ah sony. where would videogames be without you.
Musashi Wins!
FLAWLESS VICTOLY!
Yea, it seems Sony is king because they deliver a nice selection for every gamer.
Hey, in Zelda: WW don't they have a little self-mocking message about this Nintendo trait with the museum feature? Some Nintendo expert help me out with this...
Hey, in Zelda: WW don't they have a little self-mocking message about this Nintendo trait with the museum feature? Some Nintendo expert help me out with this...
DJ Demon J
Banned
Nice. Cliffy rocks. I'm glad he got over his whole bling-bling fetish though...watching him cruise around in a blue zoot suit with a giant solid gold Unreal logo medallion at the E32000 Sony party was painful.
I think Cliffy and I share the same opinion on Nintendo, except that I don't love Nintendo.
I think Cliffy and I share the same opinion on Nintendo, except that I don't love Nintendo.
FortNinety
Member
Sorry, I really can't take anyone who calls himself "Cliffy" that seriously.
And God forbid someone tries to do something different these days. Guess Nintendo should stop screwing around and start making "real" games. You know, stuff where you run and around and blow stuff up. INNOVATION!
And God forbid someone tries to do something different these days. Guess Nintendo should stop screwing around and start making "real" games. You know, stuff where you run and around and blow stuff up. INNOVATION!
Catchpenny
Member
Clearly Nintendo should stop relying on 'gimmicks' and instead build a great new engine to run an eight-hour corridor shooter with gameplay and level design from 1994.
To be fair, Cliffy B seems to have a good sense of humor about many things, including Unreal 2. UT2K4 makes up for the suckiness of UT2K3, too. So he's alright in my book.
To be fair, Cliffy B seems to have a good sense of humor about many things, including Unreal 2. UT2K4 makes up for the suckiness of UT2K3, too. So he's alright in my book.
TekunoRobby
Tag of Excellence
Hah, that's kinda a strange way to put it. I see where he's going with it, it's just an extremely poor comparison.Duckhuntdog said:
This is no ownage, just a creative perspective on what Nintendo is doing.
Comeone kids this is a great thread to get out all your frustrations and tell us how much you hate Nintendo, it's been pretty shallow so far.
Ninja Scooter
Member
i don't think he's trying to bash or own nintendo as much as he sounds like a fan who is upset that Nintendo has taken a different direction and isn't making the kinds of games he wants to play. I can (as many others can) probably understand where he's coming from, but the difference i think is that it doesn't piss me off. I watch my little cousins play games like Animal Crossing or pokemon or kirby or whatever and have fun with them like i did with Super Mario Bros, Zelda and PunchOut when i was a kid. Why people get so stressed, or worse yet, angry or bitter that Nintendo isn't making a "gran turismo killer" or a "Halo killer" or more "mature games" and following the lead of the activisions and capcom's of the world is beyond me. Who cares. There's 4 viable systems out there (soon to be 6+), and thousands of games. Find something you DO like to play, and quit your bitching. Maybe these people should just realize that maybe they've outgrown nintendo and just move the hell on.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Ninja Scooter said:
Wisdom +1000
Something I have learned by this point that if somebody is determined to dislike something or criticize it, rationality doesn't enter into it 9 times out of 10. They criticize and then come up with justifications after the fact. This is why Nintendo is damned for just making more sequels/damned for making new weird stuff at the same time. It seems to make no sense because it doesn't.
They'd be videogames instead of hype. Perhaps Nintendo tries to create its hype by doing something different, but either way Sony has made it a warground of hype and image instead of software driven.
I get that vibe often. What amuses me is that I went through a phase where I thought I was too mature for Nintendo games and avoided colorful games like the plague.. but then I realized a lot of the 'mature' games were trite, flawed software. Eventually I grew to a point where I just wanted a game to be fun. I think this is the other part of the whining for Nintendo to follow the crowd, that players want their Halo or their GTA killer, but with Nintendo quality controls and game design.
FortNinety
Member
Once again, a game with sex, violence, and blood isn't necessarily "mature". Too bad many people haven't figured this out.
etiolate said:
when you can no longer make a credible case for nintendo's material superiority, instead make a very silly case for their moral superiority. and hope desperately that no one remembers the way nintendo would deliberately underprint nes carts to create false hysteria. or their years-long project reality/ultra 64 vaporware campaign, surely the precedent for ps2's ridiculous prerelease hype. or indeed the way the remarkably game-free n64 subsisted on hype throughout its early life.
but i'm not sincerely making a case for sony's importance to the videogame industry. i'm just needling the reverent. where would videogames be without sony? i don't really know or care. i guess we might not have rhythm action games.
"Too many people" meaning Nintendo?
Because really, I can name examples of games that are considered Mature, and these don't feature sex, violence and blood, yet Nintendo hasn't really tackled these types of games. Namely, sports and racers. Nintendo isn't doing the Ken Griffey and Kobe games no more, and there hasn't been a serious racer from them in a long long time (at the moment I can't even think of one).
This whole image thing traces back to Nintendo themselves. If Nintendo launched the Revolution with a realistic racer that can compete with GT4, that generates a lot of excitement among gamers, their image has changed then and there. If the released a full sports line that's as good as EPSN's at launch, their image will change, among gamers and developers.
But that's not Nintendo. Fine. As a Nintendo fan though, you'll have to live with this perception, because to some degree it is justified.
Of course, the term "mature" isn't very descriptive, and it doesn't describe this situation well. Perhaps the best term is "mainstream appeal"?
krypt0nian
Banned
After "Cliffy B's" ridiculous Zoolander performance at this years G-phoria, he really needs to hang his overly primped head in shame.
That was the most camera-obsessed, bizarre head-tilting, 20% more extreme appearance in ages.
That was the most camera-obsessed, bizarre head-tilting, 20% more extreme appearance in ages.
Why are you talking about moral higher ground in regards to Nintendo? The point where hype over software occured as a glaring change was with the Dreamcast being bludgeoned by the PS2. Nintendo has done things for hype in the past, but I'd say overall it had always been a battle decided by software. The N64 fell to the PSX because Sony had the best and most third party games. The N64 had hype, but don't discount the fact it had Wave Race, Mario 64 and Mario Kart 64 in its first year.
PS: When did sports and racing become mature? The word mature should be vanquished from videogame writing.
SolidSnakex
Member
"The point where hype over software occured as a glaring change was with the Dreamcast being bludgeoned by the PS2."
There was way more to the DC going under so easily than just the PS2's hype. You're simpifying it way too much.
There was way more to the DC going under so easily than just the PS2's hype. You're simpifying it way too much.
Son of Godzilla
Banned
drohne said:
Didn't they also short change MKDD to create a fake shortage last year?
Anyways, the quote is stupid.
RaymondCarver
Member
There are already level mods for QuakeIII like this, so we're halfway there, folks.
a personal note:
Cliff, you're awesome. And don't diss Texas. I'm from there, and that's where I met you and that crazy-ass bright blue suit of yours. You're nuts, man. You're a big dork, and I'll try to phrase this in the way this girl Rachel always tells me, " B, you're a big dork, and you're cool. It's cool that you so love what you're in to." Cliff, you get things done, man. I'm inspired. I'm going to make everyone buy your stuff and not pirate it....and still...I get the sense that you're going to have to throw your consumers a bone...Or work with the OEMs as gaming-machine pack-in killer apps. Hell, most of these kids (college kids) I'm introducing your stuff to go right out of their way to buy or build gaming rigs because of the exciting and fundamental human tendency to play. The next time I see someone with a laptop they're not using for something that could get their blood pumping Vs Spider Solitaire, I'll give them your demo. Yours. I don't have one, and I don't know if I ever will, but if it be in my cards, pun intended, then I'll one day give them my demo. Until that time, I'd like to see one of your group's titles grafted into the back of airplane seats. That's where Nintendo's gone with their stuff, man, and I have high hopes for you.
Sincerely,
That guy from the farm town doing graphic design and photography in school,
-Raymond Carver
I have a hard time feeling anything but "meh" with this quote. I can understand how he doesn't care for what Nintendo's doing, but at the same he's slating them for seemingly trying to do something new for the sake of it, like there's something wrong. Once in awhile someone has to move towards something new so that next big thing will come along. If Nintendo had kept trying to make arcade shooters, they may not have taken a chance with a young Miyamoto and got Donkey Kong of him. If they avoided putting out a console in NA because everyone else thought it was a dead end, there would not have been a NES and Nintendo would not have played the big role that it did in cleaning up the industry through licensing.
Right now, I think they are honestly looking for new ways in which we can interact with games that are easier than controllers and are affordable, hoping that they can reach more casual demographics that are underserved now. The fact that they make a huge deal out of it shouldn't make it seem like someone looking for a reward. Why aren't people saying the same things about MS when they say they are going to do this or that?
Right now, I think they are honestly looking for new ways in which we can interact with games that are easier than controllers and are affordable, hoping that they can reach more casual demographics that are underserved now. The fact that they make a huge deal out of it shouldn't make it seem like someone looking for a reward. Why aren't people saying the same things about MS when they say they are going to do this or that?
BobbyRobby said:
Strangely enough, there WAS one. I got it at a Walmart while I was in college... 1996/97/98 or so. An orange, generic looking light gun with an adaptor plug that fit the SNES. It was being sold bundled with a SNES light gun game... the "sets" included Yoshi's Safari and the two Battleclash games.
I have no idea who the manufacturer was, nor anything else about it, sadly.