CM Punk tells all about walking out of WWE (podcast)
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Dark Ninja
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Well we can add in the Ape income. She makes maybe $500 a week based off that Mexico tour payment.
Rollins said it was to keep their hair under control in the match. They basically walk under a shower before going out.
They get percentages. I know that by the end of Trish Status career she was getting 20%, whether that was on top of profit or sale price I am not sure.
He claimed he hadn't listened to the Punk podcast yet.
It's total bullshit that it's a coincidence, in my eyes. Sure, maybe it was a coincidence that the actual papers were going out the day before but Vince really should've delayed them, unless he wanted to make a point about it.
Basileus777
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I can buy that maybe it wasn't Vince making the call to send the papers out on that day, but someone in WWE certainly did.
The fact that it was FedEx that fast it ain't cheap. HHH made that shit happen with his own money out his pockets to stick it extra hard to Punk.
DoktorEvil
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Maybe not the smartest, but yes he does look and sound like a condescending prick to people.
I don't know whether or not that's because of the wrestling persona or because of the punk rock, straightedge lifestyle he lives(or claims to live).
I imagine one of the reasons Steph hates him is she is/was the head of creative and when they would bring him the script (presumably Steph approved) he would rip it up in front of them.
Regarding the Shield being wet I recently read a quote about Vince liking the wrestlers wet. So they pour bottles of water over themselves before going out.
Aaron-Lagann
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I've always felt like that, he pretty much said as much in the documentary following his career. Even with that in mind, it's hard to listen to most of this stuff and not come out hating WWE at least a little bit, especially if you're like me and haven't heard most of the behind the scenes stuff.
Naw. He is a guy with common sense, a brain, and good creative vision. If he doesn't like something then he will tell you straight if it need to be said. He doesn't lick or kiss people's ass for he believe people are just that, people, and you give and receive respect where it's due. Many other people would cower away and talk behind your back. CM Punk would be a great person to hang with in my eyes.
tycoonheart
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Vince is the one who has looked under control, calm and logical in all this, IMO.
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Correct.
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Why would he? Everything else should be between himself, representatives from WWE, and Punk and his representatives.
Aaron-Lagann
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Calm and logically forcing injured wrestlers to continue wrestling to the point of risking their lives.
UberTag
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The WWE wants to employ nothing but sheep and "yes men" and to co-opt the ideas from people who come up with them for themselves when they "reach for the brass ring" and to give them to their favorites or, even more likely, they'll even swap ideas between two guys just to fucking undermine them and any creative ambition they might have. Whether it's with sponsorship deals, match ideas, angles, booking, "Make-a-Wish" shit, movies... you name it.
It's a poisonous, toxic cesspool of a workplace environment and that would be the case if it was a call center or a retail store or a legal firm... let alone a wrestling organization where the faceless minions have to commit themselves fully to 24/7 just to further the ideals of "the brand".
Kudos to CM Punk for getting out, kudos to Del Rio, kudos to any other independent contractors who escape in the future to work for another organization that enables performers to further their craft and themselves instead of sabotaging them and kudos to any fans of professional wrestling who take a stand and vow to never again pay a single cent to the WWE for ANY reason and choose to instead spend those cents on F4W Online, New Japan, Ring of Honor, Legitshook.com or the local wrestling event that tours their neighborhood high school gym or nightclub.
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He forced nobody. You can lean on people, but nobody is being forced. Everyone has always known how it works - you take time off, any momentum you had is dead in the water.
It was, and when they realised they couldn't ask for a "please don't tell on us"-deal because they seriously endangered Punk and everyone else that worked in the ring with him (or just in the same ring as him at any point) things actually got out for once.
Hopefully there's a mentality change in that regard and talent actually gets time to get healthy from now on.
We sure as hell won't get one as far as creative is concerned, because everything is great and even though 300k people took their 9,99 and ran for the hills, the Network has a 90% satisfaction rate and everyone loves it to death, business is awesome and people at Raw are super loud and happy with everything on the show. Punk is just a loner anyways and talent is just not that interested in being main event talent, so that's why they can't get over when we start-stop push them for 3 weeks.
Sure, I agree.
But what I'm saying is that it's easy to look calm and in control when you are lying and spouting PR nonesense when compared to someone that is talking about how he almost dying working for you and how he gave everything up until he lost the love for his job.
Their situation isn't even comparable so obviously Vince is going to talk about it in a more candid and calm way.
What the WWE did to Punk is disgusting either way.
Wendel Clark
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Vince has been doing this for decades and is likely a psychopath.
UberTag
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It's easy to bullshit others when you've had a lifetime of practice bullshitting yourself.
TheStruggler
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Vince said Cesaro didnt get a push because "well maybe its because he is swiss"....
Christberg
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That's not a good thing in this case.
And Punk is a guy that doesn't take shit from people and tells it like he sees it. Dude's got an ego but he's a straight up guy. More people should conduct themselves like that IMO.
tycoonheart
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Well, maybe thats the only part of what he said that stuck out to you. But he made it clear that Cesaro is missing charisma. And he's on point. Cesaro is missing a personality. Great wrestler, but he's just another guy. He's not that great on the mic either.
canadian crowe
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He must be a nightmare to have a serious conversation with.
SpideySenses
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WWE knew exactly what to do with Cesaro, after his big win at Wrestlemania, his offence was over, they put him with the best mouthpiece in the business, he was set for big things, all they had to do is not beat him all the time, so of course they do exactly that.
UberTag
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Not really. It's respectful not to say a hot button word for no reason and he was able to make his exact point by saying "n-word" instead of the alternative because everyone listening knew exactly what he meant.
As for you guys saying "Interview Part 2" was boring, I'm not exactly sure what you were expecting because they delivered exactly what was advertised. Did you think this was some angle or something? Frankly, Punk commenting on Vince's sham apology at all was a surprise to me. The guy's done with wrestling. He addressed whether he felt it was respectful or not for people to chant his name during his wife's matches and whether the door is closed on him revisiting the industry in any way shape or form down the line (which would clearly have to be for a non-WWE company because of the stunt Triple H pulled). What else is there to acknowledge?
Only a little? The one thing Cabana failed at was using this pow-wow with Punk as anything more than a 2-day ad revenue spike. There was NOTHING about the way he handled this interview that would make you want to seek out his show independently or listen to him interview someone not named CM Punk. What a waste of an opportunity.
Charisma and personality are not the same thing.
The point his Cesaro was over and people were reacting to him and now they are not. Vince is just giving excuses for mishandling him.
Maybe he is lacking a personality on WWE TV but from people who have seen him on panels and things at WM weekend they have said he was great on the mic and funny with great charisma. If that is true then it suggests the problem is with the material he is given not suiting his personality or he is better with less strict scripting. As for Vince thinking he is terrible on the mic Vince also apparently thought Flair sucked at promos.
Ziltoidia 9
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I doubt Vince was behind the firing on wedding day, but I bet he knows who in the company thought it would be funny to do it. Punk is right when he says if it was a mistake, they would have apologized sooner/to him personally.
Some people can look at punk and see him as really hard to work with, but I think he is just the type of person that doesn't like to repeat himself. But if you are going to think he is hard to work with, then Vince/WWE offices are impossible to work with. They acted like a telecom would.
Some people can look at punk and see him as really hard to work with, but I think he is just the type of person that doesn't like to repeat himself. But if you are going to think he is hard to work with, then Vince/WWE offices are impossible to work with. They acted like a telecom would.
Any conversation, I'd say. He sounds dumb as fuck. Like, I question that this dude knows how to read at all. I used to think he got a raw deal in WWE, but now I imagine him trying to do a live interview on a local news station or any kind of media outlet.
UberTag
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Almost everyone in that company would sound better with less strict scripting.
Except for possibly Rosa Mendes.
And other folks with language barriers. Hearing Del Rio in interviews outside of the WWE (and he's a nice guy and all) tells me he really benefited from the scripted promos he was given to work with.
Amory
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"Like when the Doors played on the Ed Sullivan show..."
"Oh like doors, like doors you walk through?"
"What? No like the band, the Doors.
"OHH I THOUGHT YOU MEANT LIKE DOORS YOU KNOW LIKE DOORS?"
"Like when he called me when I had just gotten out of the hospital and was still anesthetized..."
"I have no idea what that means"
shit was kind of sad.
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