Yeah, I really like both Sony and Nintendo. N64 is one my favorite consoles of all time. It's up there with the SNES imo.PS3? PSP? Vita? Nintendo Switch? DS? 3DS?
These companies have traded a hell of alot of blows over the years and both are doing really well as of right now.
Xbox is the market leaderPlaystation will always be the top babyyyyy
Not taking from Nintendo at all. I’m sure SONY will do the same if they ever have to. But Nintendo’s biggest caveat in my opinion with the switch. Was combining their resources for their handheld and home console output. You can see the struggle the big 2 are having with production cost. With Nintendo’s great software output being thrown at one console. Them only needing to market one console. Then successfully doing a hybrid. They set theirselves up for success.Did Sony actually beat Nintendo? It’s highly profitable, sold over 125mil Switches, sold whole bunch of software selling in 10s of millions copies and has like $11bil in convertible securities/cash.
Edit: God, iOS error correction is utter trash.
Playstation will always be the top babyyyyyy
The only thing Xbox is 'Leading' is their business off a cliff.Xbox is the market leader
Playstation will always be the top babyyyyyy
This is what I don't understand from a majority of posts on here. Nintendo consoles sales have fallen off a cliff since Sony joined the industry. Their handhelds have done well and they have beaten Sony in that market but their consoles have sold like shit. The Wii is the only real success story and that was due to the gimmick and super cheap price point. I mean the Wii only sold about 20 mil more than sonys WEAKEST console in the PS3 since they joined the industry. If the next Nintendo system is a straight up home console (it won't be), no doubt in my mind it will bomb, as all of their other consoles pretty much have the past 30ish years.Nah man. The first thing Sony fans (myself included) point to above all else when proclaiming victory in the console war is console sales. Nintendo Switch hasn't been defeated by anything in that regard. Damn sure can't turn this into a teraflops fight when it suits us.
Did Sony actually beat Nintendo? It’s highly profitable, sold over 125mil Switches, sold whole bunch of software selling in 10s of millions copies and has like $11bil in convertible securities/cash.
Edit: God, iOS error correction is utter trash.
So, by 2025 they expect to put 50% of their investment into new franchises.
Sounds like they're about to step up their game with 1st party output.
Should ease the minds of some of the critics who whine about Sony only focusing on remasters.
I disagree with PlayStation beating Nintendo. Nintendo is in a better gaming state imo.
Xbox… well…. ya that’s a whole other thing.
Nintendo is probably currently in a more secure position imo than Sony due to their IP’s and their cost to market for games and probably hardware.
Sony is also investing part of the profit into Playstation, which could be the reason why it's lower compared to Nintendo.
Yes. They locked them out of the console business forever. 125 million compared to the 150 ds + 100 million wii is not winning.
They no longer get cod, ac, battlefield, and any of the big third party games Sony gets 30% royalties from. Re4, Star Wars, Alan wake, avatar, cod, and even hogwarts which came out on ps5, pc and xs and sold a billion worth of copies before it was hastily ported to switch for a fraction of the sales.
Nintendo has effectively conceded the console space but i would give the credit to both ms and Sony for that. Not just Sony.
Pretty much.the fact that these mainstream/business centric outlets are making these articles tells you that is pseudo officially over.
this timeline really is fast and furious.
Pretty sure Wii beat the pants off PS3 and DS destroyed PSP, oh and 3DS ate Vita's lunch every day.N64? Gamecube? WiiU?
What year is it? .gifBut for how long? Their core audience of children are rapidly moving over to tablets for gaming instead. They look comfy now, but I think they are gonna have a few challenges of their own in a few years. With that said….. I think they will be the last dedicated gaming hardware company. I’m just wondering how many more of these hardware ideas they have in them that will differentiate them from their competition in their usual target audiences eyes ( kids with ever shortening attention spans)
But Nintendo still makes more profits and has 1st-party sales that make Sony's top-sellers look like a bunch of indie games.Yes. They locked them out of the console business forever. 125 million compared to the 150 ds + 100 million wii is not winning.
They no longer get cod, ac, battlefield, and any of the big third party games Sony gets 30% royalties from. Re4, Star Wars, Alan wake, avatar, cod, and even hogwarts which came out on ps5, pc and xs and sold a billion worth of copies before it was hastily ported to switch for a fraction of the sales.
Nintendo has effectively conceded the console space but i would give the credit to both ms and Sony for that. Not just Sony.
The Wii was also the least-used console and WiiU showed that the Wii was a lucky strike because of the motion-controller fad.Pretty sure Wii beat the pants off PS3 and DS destroyed PSP, oh and 3DS ate Vita's lunch every day.
Oh yeah, and the Switch laps PS5 regularly as well. But as others have said, Sony has beaten Nintendo plenty of times as well so it's a very healthy rivalry.It was also the least-used console and WiiU showed that the Wii was a lucky strike because of the motion-controller fad.
Nintendo has been in the business since the late 70s. What are you talking about with their core audience of children growing up? You think 120M+ units sold are just children?But for how long? Their core audience of children are rapidly moving over to tablets for gaming instead. They look comfy now, but I think they are gonna have a few challenges of their own in a few years. With that said….. I think they will be the last dedicated gaming hardware company. I’m just wondering how many more of these hardware ideas they have in them that will differentiate them from their competition in their usual target audiences eyes ( kids with ever shortening attention spans)
This is a failed argument and makes absolutely no sense to use for the switch.Yes. They locked them out of the console business forever. 125 million compared to the 150 ds + 100 million wii is not winning.
Caused them to use gimmicks each generation instead of traditional consoles.Sony beat Nintendo?
I don't kniow about software sales between wii and ps3.Pretty sure Wii beat the pants off PS3 and DS destroyed PSP, oh and 3DS ate Vita's lunch every day.
Caused them to use gimmicks each generation instead of traditional consoles.
It's more fun to watch a puncher than a boxer, so Nintendo's more fun to watch than Sony; it's true Sony scores more points, but Nintendo can knock you out with one punch.The Wii was also the least-used console and WiiU showed that the Wii was a lucky strike because of the motion-controller fad.
Sony always wins baby
its always easier to reduce costs than to gain revenue. Nintendo is significantly lower than PS in overall revenue.I disagree with PlayStation beating Nintendo. Nintendo is in a better gaming state imo.
Xbox… well…. ya that’s a whole other thing.
Nintendo is probably currently in a more secure position imo than Sony due to their IP’s and their cost to market for games and probably hardware.
You do with this off point reply.Nintendo is the richest company in Japan and they're about to beat the PS2's lifetime sales. So who gives a shit?
Honestly, both Sony and Nintendo are punchers and boxers.It's more fun to watch a puncher than a boxer, so Nintendo's more fun to watch than Sony; it's true Sony scores more points, but Nintendo can knock you out with one punch.
Sure, but on the other hand, Playstation is carrying the console-industry hard right now.Oh yeah, and the Switch laps PS5 regularly as well. But as others have said, Sony has beaten Nintendo plenty of times as well so it's a very healthy rivalry.
Nintendo owns the gaming industry in Japan. They’re doing something right.You do with this off point reply.
Doesn't change what I said.
PS2 is a console.
Sony caused them to stop making traditional consoles.
Switch isn't a traditional console.
It is a hybrid(gimmick)and generations weaker(uses a mobile chipset)
Nintendo knows not to reenter the traditional console market.
Wii was an anomalyPretty sure Wii beat the pants off PS3 and DS destroyed PSP, oh and 3DS ate Vita's lunch every day.
Last I remember, Nintendo is the company with zero debt, doesn’t have to release their games on other platforms, and still is able to sell their games for full price years after launch with no issues.
Sony and Nintendo are in direct competition and will continue to be doing so for years to come, as much as some here like to claim the opposite.
How so? I really don't get this logic unless you only focus on static games and console (they're pretty equal in console sales) sales numbers. You have to look at Revenue, business acumen, and future proofing.Nintendo is dominating Sony and Microsoft actually.
Sony are the ones fiddling around trying to figure out way to reduce costs and increase profit margins, not Nintendo who aren’t even considering porting their games to PC.its always easier to reduce costs than to gain revenue. Nintendo is significantly lower than PS in overall revenue.
I get their profits being high, but how will they gain more revenue? thats much harder to do than cut costs, lay off people, and be more cost efficient.
thats what i said, what are you even saying?Sony are the ones fiddling around trying to figure out way to reduce costs and increase profit margins, not Nintendo who aren’t even considering porting their games to PC.
Well that's the current state yes, even nintendo went though multiple points were they were figuring things out.Sony are the ones fiddling around trying to figure out way to reduce costs and increase profit margins, not Nintendo who aren’t even considering porting their games to PC.
I actually have to tip my cap to Sony. They've hung in the ring with Nintendo much longer than I ever anticipated.Nintendo is dominating Sony and Microsoft actually.
You asked how Nintendo would gain more revenues, didn’t you? That’s something Sony is worrying about and not even revenues since they get plenty but off the back of $200M+ games.thats what i said, what are you even saying?
Easiest way for Nintendo to gain more revenue is release the Switch 2.its always easier to reduce costs than to gain revenue. Nintendo is significantly lower than PS in overall revenue.
I get their profits being high, but how will they gain more revenue? thats much harder to do than cut costs, lay off people, and be more cost efficient.
Nah just there hardware.The only thing Xbox is 'Leading' is their business off a cliff.
Get your ass and your head wired together soldier and come in for the big win.
And yet Nintendo outprofiting PlayStation (SIE/SCE) is a constant through decades (with a couple exceptions) and not a spotty occurrence.its always easier to reduce costs than to gain revenue. Nintendo is significantly lower than PS in overall revenue.
I get their profits being high, but how will they gain more revenue? thats much harder to do than cut costs, lay off people, and be more cost efficient.
But that's also something Nintendo has to worry about, they are also trying to grow and yet they're still significantly behind playstation. As i said, its easier to cut costs than gain revenue.You asked how Nintendo would gain more revenues, didn’t you? That’s something Sony is worrying about and not even revenues since they get plenty but off the back of $200M+ games.