College Football 2013 |Week 5| Games resume this week
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perfectchaos007
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Like JoPa, the NCAA should have done more
I'm gonna use peanut butter to lure you in next time. Like a craw dad.
And they honestly should have only won one. The second was the infamous "one second left" game against Nebraska.
However, at the very least that game allowed this magical moment to transpire about a month later:
The look on Dareus' face gets me every time. It's the same look I get when my neighbor's five year-old tries to tackle me in their yard.
BertramCooper
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It probably somewhat decreases the chance of BOB bailing on you guys, so that's nice.
Naw, we legit won that one.
We should have had three, but Chris Simms totally imploded against Colorado and it was too big a hole for Major to dig us out of. That was an awful CU team that managed to somehow beat Nebraska and Texas in back to back weeks.
The real problem is back when we were good we couldn't beat OU and were stuck in the same division as them. When we did beat OU, we won the Big 12 for the most part. Except for that year with the three way tie stuff.
Then we sucked.
Yeah, OU has been the 400 lb. gorilla in the Big 12, but hopefully that's changing now.
Unfortunately, I think Stoops is there for another 5-6 years at least.
That game was awesome.... was in vegas for it and between me and the others with me we had about 10k on the game for bama to win (basically all the cash we brought with us). When texas came back and made it close in the 4th we were .5 points on the wrong side of the spread and then that glorious fumble recovery put us back on the right side of the spread to stay. The place went nuts when that happened.
perfectchaos007
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wait, what part of Texas are you from? They're crawfish 'round these parts
Who's "they"?
The only people who deserve direct blame for what happened are Sandusky and those who directly enabled his crimes to continue, which includes Paterno and the administrators that are currently being prosecuted.
Sure, you could argue that the deification of Paterno and his program also allowed the child abuse to continue, but that's way too abstract for me to say that PSU flat-out shouldn't have a football program.
Maybe too abstract for you, but not for me. There's no way this would have happened if football wasn't worshiped there, and was instead just treated the same as ping-pong or something. Harboring a child rapist=your football program goes bye-bye.
GAF Pick'em Week 5 Games
(THU) Virginia Tech @ Georgia Tech by 8
South Carolina @ UCF by 7
SMU @ TCU by 17
Virginia @ Pittsburgh by 10
LSU @ Georgia by 3
Florida State @ Boston College by 23
Oklahoma @ Notre Dame by 3
Iowa @ Minnesota by 1
Ole Miss @ Alabama by 12
Arizona @ Washington by 8
Wisconsin @ Ohio State by 6
USC @ Arizona State by 4
(THU) Virginia Tech @ Georgia Tech by 8
South Carolina @ UCF by 7
SMU @ TCU by 17
Virginia @ Pittsburgh by 10
LSU @ Georgia by 3
Florida State @ Boston College by 23
Oklahoma @ Notre Dame by 3
Iowa @ Minnesota by 1
Ole Miss @ Alabama by 12
Arizona @ Washington by 8
Wisconsin @ Ohio State by 6
USC @ Arizona State by 4
bucknuticus
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As much as I hate penn st, that whole town would die without the revenue the football program brings in. So now youre punished people who are in no way even connected to the school.
They're connected to the toxic football cult that deified Paterno. Yes it sucks for the people who just want to make a living, but you can make that argument about all sorts of things. We still put bank robbers in jail even if they have kids who will suffer from losing their parents. But the disgusting culture at Penn State needed to be killed at the root. Kill their program, and in 10 years give them a chance to restart if they can prove they'll do better this time.
chaosblade
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You mean the same Arkansas that will be lucky to have more than 1 conference win? And the same WVU that struggled with William and Mary?
Just saying the B1G easts bottom feeders are better than the other divisions bottom feeders.
No. Pac-12 North easily.
This is brilliant. Bravo.
You're starting to sound like an SECSECSEC fan.
I probably crossed that bridge as soon as Rutgers joined the B1G.
PAC 12 N is definitely better but that is such a division of big bros and little bros.
Yeah, OU has been the 400 lb. gorilla in the Big 12, but hopefully that's changing now.
Unfortunately, I think Stoops is there for another 5-6 years at least.
I think Stoops is past his prime.
Okie St *should* be the best team in the Big 12 for the next few years. Everyone else kind of sucks or is middling at best and I think Stoops has lost his edge.
Until we hire Nick Saban, Jerry Gray and Bill Bellicheck and win everything every year for the next 30 years.
Hays county.
But I have family from East Texas and Western North Carolina.
Sometimes the SECSECSEC comes out of me.
bucknuticus
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Welp, lets just shut the whole school down fellas. Fuck anyone who currently goes to school there or went to school there, or the farmer down the street.
Glad we solved that problem but creating 60 other problems.
Mission Accomplished.
By your logic we could never punish anyone for anything ever because of collateral damage.
If you think the problem with Penn State was just one minor thing compared to 60 problems shutting down the football program would cause, then I think that shows you don't understand the extent of the problem.
Today is Tuesday...
bucknuticus
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Where did i say people shouldnt be punished? I 100% agree they should be those involved were and are being punished. Nor do I think it was a minor issue, but im asking why stop at the football program, why not the entire school? Hell, just shutdown the entire city.
I feel dirty defending penn st football program.
Because
1) The disease stems from the football program
2) Football is just a game, in this case an amateur game
It's not that big of a deal to not have football, and if it is, well, that's what caused the disease in the first place.
I say, shut down the entire country, it's done some heinous shit in the past, and currently!
Start with Branduil's town first, though.
peteykirch
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NCAA should've waited until the end of the trials to decide if PSU deserves leniency.
Then again I believe the NCAA should've given PSU the death penalty last year and this year.
Then again I believe the NCAA should've given PSU the death penalty last year and this year.
bucknuticus
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Well, you made your point I made mine. We're just spinning our wheels at this point so we'll just agree to disagree.
He's definitely past his prime, but things would also look a lot different if they had managed to win just one of those 3 other title games (especially the ones against LSU and UF). OU would probably still be rolling along and the SECSECSEC's dominance wouldn't look nearly as clear.
It's still going to be a great day for OSU and UT when Stoops leaves or retires.
:jncBranduil said:
Pristine_Condition
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I should have just said "unranked teams don't get to tell ranked teams what to put on their t-shirts..." But there's too much material to work with when talking to Longhorn fans about arrogance.
Sincerely agree with Branduil, I can think of no greater instance of lack of institutional control than what happened at Penn St.
I wonder if I cross referenced posters from this discussion with ones that posted in threads about Catholic Church child molestation cases what sort of results I'd get, after all a lot of people rely on the Church for their employment too.
I wonder if I cross referenced posters from this discussion with ones that posted in threads about Catholic Church child molestation cases what sort of results I'd get, after all a lot of people rely on the Church for their employment too.
timetokill
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I know, and they'll be coming later today... GEEZ YOU GUYS
The funny thing is that was just paying players. What happened at Penn State is orders of magnitude worse, and well, we see what the NCAA cares about.
Virginia Tech helmets for Thursday's game -
I guess they have a quarry whose stone (called "Hokie Stone") is quarried only for use in construction projects by Virginia Tech? That's kind of cool. The helmet, though...
...guess I'll wait until I see the rest of the uniform to pass judgment.
Stahp!
zyxwvu4321
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I heard them talking about this on one of the sports talk shows this morning. Apparently there are a lot of cobble stone sidewalks or something there? I may have misheard that part though. Not sure about the look, especially without seeing the rest of the uniform. Colors seem a bit off for VT though.Virginia Tech helmets for Thursday's game -
I guess they have a quarry whose stone (called "Hokie Stone") is quarried only for use in construction projects by Virginia Tech? That's kind of cool. The helmet, though...
...guess I'll wait until I see the rest of the uniform to pass judgment.
BertramCooper
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Umm, I'm pretty sure it also involved a certain SMU student-athlete killing five hookers.
VT puts a sidewalk print on their helmet because they've been getting walked all over the past two seasons.
Hey now, we were ranked for two whole weeks this season, and someone is still voting for us.
The SWC might still be alive today, if SMU didn't get destroyed like it did.
Speaking of the SWC, Lou Holtz was here talking at the Arkansas Touchdown Club. He had something to say about our conference of old:
Lou Holtz said:
Schmitty
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wooo give us those scholarships back!!!
big ten champs 2014!!!!
Reserved for my picks
(THU) Virginia Tech @ Georgia Tech by 4
South Carolina @ UCF by4 upset special
SMU @ TCU by 6 have been burned twice by TCU they better not make it 3
Virginia @ Pittsburgh by 8
LSU @ Georgia by 7
Florida State @ Boston College by 14
Oklahoma @ Notre Dame by 4
Iowa @ Minnesota by 6
Ole Miss @ Alabama by 10
Arizona @ Washington by 9
Wisconsin @ Ohio State by 6
USC @ Arizona State by 7
big ten champs 2014!!!!
Reserved for my picks
(THU) Virginia Tech @ Georgia Tech by 4
South Carolina @ UCF by4 upset special
SMU @ TCU by 6 have been burned twice by TCU they better not make it 3
Virginia @ Pittsburgh by 8
LSU @ Georgia by 7
Florida State @ Boston College by 14
Oklahoma @ Notre Dame by 4
Iowa @ Minnesota by 6
Ole Miss @ Alabama by 10
Arizona @ Washington by 9
Wisconsin @ Ohio State by 6
USC @ Arizona State by 7
The SWC might have limped along for a few more years, but there were too many small private schools in the SWC to survive long.
At the end we had:
Texas, Aggy, Tech, Baylor, Rice, U of H, SMU and TCU.
That's just not a conference that can survive on paper where TV is king.
Aggy was dominate around that time, but was constantly under sanctions. UT was mediocre at best, Tech was above average.. from 1985-1994 there was always someone in the conference who was post season inelligable.
Plus that 1994 season when Texas, Tech, Baylor, Rice and TCU all shared the SWC title with a 4-3 record because A&M was under NCAA sanctions.
Schmitty
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I just make myself ignore it because the sentiment is so ridiculous.
haha of course my last post is last on page 2.
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