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[Talon]

Florida won the sec east. What does it say about that division and conference having gotten blown out by an A-OK Michigan team?

Remember the sec west went 2-5 last year in bowl games capped by ohio state embarrassing alabama.

I'm a grad student at pepperdine so I have no dog in this fight.

I guess those Church of Christ (the ones that don't believe women should lead prayers and that musical instruments during praise = paganism)* nutbags have done a good job of teaching you to create strawmen. Florida was not very good once Grier went down. Nobody has contested this statement in this thread for months.

*Talon knows this because he went to a prominent Church of Christ private school from K-12.

 

[Just Some Guy]

Grier didn't exactly go down. He was caught for cheating and rightfully suspended. Are you saying Florida was better when they were cheating? That makes sense but doesn't excuse the fact they still beat 3 sec east teams after he was suspended.

So again what does it say when that team gets blown out by an A-OK Michigan team? How bad was the sec east?

And I only brought up my education because you brought up your big ten grad status like it somehow makes your opinion mean more. It doesnt.

 

[Arkos]

Florida won the sec east. What does it say about that division and conference having gotten blown out by an A-OK Michigan team?

Remember the sec west went 2-5 last year in bowl games capped by ohio state embarrassing alabama.

I'm a grad student at pepperdine so I have no dog in this fight.

Go back to your hole and stop living in the one year in which the B1G didn't embarrass themselves. You are absolutely insufferable.

 

[Purple Cheeto]

McCaffery is like an Agnostic Tim Tebow.

Can't wait for some unimaginative team to draft him and then turn him into Reggie Bush 2.0 and never use him in any interesting way.

 

[Talon]

Go back to your hole and stop living in the one year in which the B1G didn't embarrass themselves. You are absolutely insufferable.

+++

 

[Just Some Guy]

Go back to your hole and stop living in the one year in which the B1G didn't embarrass themselves. You are absolutely insufferable.

The big ten is 5-4 in bowl games thus far including the Iowa loss. How is a winning record in bowl games embarrassing? I find people touting the espn rhetoric that the big ten sucks insufferable when the results don't support the claims

 

[jjasper]

Basically just iowa and Michigan state who looked awful. Rest of the big 10 has been fine.

Not really sure I would say Northwestern was fine.

 

[Purple Cheeto]

I really wish Ohio State hadn't fucked up. They'd be a lot more interesting to watch in this game.

 

[eBay Huckster]

Not really sure I would say Northwestern was fine.

In fairness, everyone probably keeps forgetting Northwestern was even in a bowl.

In Ohio State news, Michael Thomas may be staying

 

[theprodigy]

I really wish Ohio State hadn't fucked up. They'd be a lot more interesting to watch in this game.

nah they needed the jolt from the Michigan State game to wake up, otherwise they'd just have gotten blown up anyway in the semifinal

 

[Lonestar]

The big ten is 5-4 in bowl games thus far including the Iowa loss. How is a winning record in bowl games embarrassing? I find people touting the espn rhetoric that the big ten sucks insufferable when the results don't support the claims

B1G, so far, has been outscored 257-213, and their best 2 teams, the CCG selections, are currently being outscored 76-0

 

[eBay Huckster]

nah they needed the jolt from the Michigan State game to wake up, otherwise they'd just have gotten blown up anyway in the semifinal

so basically, they should've lost to NIU

 

[Draxal]

B1G, so far, has been outscored 257-213, and their best 2 teams, the CCG selections, are currently being outscored 76-0

Would you really consider Florida the second best team in the Sec? Iowa got in because the B1G West had a weird year.

 

[Skiesofwonder]

In fairness, everyone probably keeps forgetting Northwestern was even in a bowl.

In Ohio State news, Michael Thomas may be staying

I believe Northwestern forgot as well.

 

[eBay Huckster]

Would you really consider Florida the second best team in the Sec? Iowa got in because the B1G West had a weird year.

Iowa got in because the B1G West couldn't borrow Ohio State.

I believe Northwestern forgot as well.

:jnc

 

[Lonestar]

Would you really consider Florida the second best team in the Sec? Iowa got in because the B1G West had a weird year.

Generally the best of the east, and hey, beat the bestest team in the west with some deer sprayed quarterback.

 

[Just Some Guy]

B1G, so far, has been outscored 257-213, and their best 2 teams, the CCG selections, are currently being outscored 76-0

Aggregate score now? Calling Iowa the second best team in the big ten?

This is getting sad.

 

[distantmantra]

I find the national narrative that Iowa is terrible interesting. Nope, can't admit that Stanford is really good.

 

[sonicfan]

I sure would have liked to see a Stanford or Ohio State play against Alabama's defense. How did Stanford lose to Northwestern?

 

[Lonestar]

Aggregate score now? Calling Iowa the second best team in the big ten?

This is getting sad.

Iowa at least broke 140 yards of offense against MSUn.

Want to know who else broke 132 yards of offense against MSUn?

Calvin Ridley.

 

[WesternHeretic]

There goes the shut out.

 

[Draxal]

I find the national narrative that Iowa is terrible interesting. Nope, can't admit that Stanford is really good.

When you have a score this lopsided its a combination of both. Nobody is going to call Bama garbage but Sparty was awful last night.

 

[Gorillaz]

The 2 reps for our division getting washed the fuck out

Damn breh. Is this what you would call Stanford Football right now or just normal football

 

[Just Some Guy]

Iowa isn't terrible. They just dodged the three best teams in the other division.

Stanford is a great team. It sucks people are trying to diminish their performance. Again it stems from this idiotic conference dick measuring contest that is perpetuated by a certain region of the USA and espn.

 

[eBay Huckster]

I find the national narrative that Iowa is terrible interesting. Nope, can't admit that Stanford is really good.

I mean, they dodged literally all 3 of UM/MSU/OSU in the regular season and lost to the only one of the three they got to play

 

[Just Some Guy]

Iowa fans are great. Still cheering hard for a first down when their team is down 38-0

 

[Skiesofwonder]

Neither of you can seriously be suggesting that Iowa and Florida are the second best teams in their respected conferences..... right?

I imagine the majority would agree that Iowa is #4 or #5 in Big Ten and Florida is #5 or #6 in SEC with Harris at QB.

 

[Draconian]

Grier didn't exactly go down. He was caught for cheating and rightfully suspended. Are you saying Florida was better when they were cheating? That makes sense but doesn't excuse the fact they still beat 3 sec east teams after he was suspended.

So again what does it say when that team gets blown out by an A-OK Michigan team? How bad was the sec east?

And I only brought up my education because you brought up your big ten grad status like it somehow makes your opinion mean more. It doesnt.

Everybody here knows the SEC East is garbage. It isn't some hidden secret and nobody would deny that.

But if Michigan is simply A-OK and Michigan State, Iowa, and Northwestern have all been completely and utterly embarrassed in the past two days, that just leaves us with Ohio State right? So you're saying that B1G is a one team conference, and that one team wasn't even good enough to get to the B1G title game? Do you realize now how ridiculous you sound?

 

[darkside31337]

moral victory

 

[Lonestar]

76-3!

Just 25 more field goals!

 

[Just Some Guy]

I'm not the one who called michigan just A-OK. Talon was. I was openly mocking him for it.

 

[Bunta]

 

[Corsick]

This also goes to show most of the power conferences only have one legitimately great team. The rest are just good and dodged the great teams or above average and no one knew it. Ohio State losing to MSU screwed the Big 10 badly since Ohio State actually had a good shot at beating Alabama. I will say I'm not surprised by the Michigan game at all, Harbaugh is a top 3 coach in college football and Michigan has recruited incredibly well under Hoake. The problem with Hoake being that he just couldn't coach, so Harbaugh has the players, he just needs the "culture" to set in completely and have some of "his" guys who he's recruited mature and get prepared to take over. Florida is in the SEC East so they've always been overrated when they were a good team, not great. They're just now getting exposed, especially without their QB.

 

[Just Some Guy]

Also the sec east went undefeated in bowl games last year and the sec west went 2-5. Is anyone going to argue the sec east was better than the west last year? Of course not.

People try to use these bowl results to compare conferences when it doesnt really make sense to do so. Results are mostly based on match ups between the two teams, strengths/weaknesses, etc...

 

[diffusionx]

Wisconsin also beat USC. Wonder why people are trying to come up with this false narrative that the big ten is bad

Obviously their top teams are not competitive with the top teams from other conferences.

Once you get down in the middle it gets a bit messy. The Pac-12 was pretty deep this year (Stanford, Utah, Oregon, UCLA, ASU all beat each other up), but USC was a basket case for obvious reasons.

 

[Arkos]

Ayyyy lmao

 

[MIMIC]

Are you kidding me with this shit?! First Michigan State and now Iowa.

Wow. Thank God they got to play for a playoff spot.

 

[ryseing]

Indiana got screwed by a bad call on a field goal.

You mean a completely correct call that ESPN just flamed controversy by showing a bad camera angle?

 

[DominoKid]

I find the national narrative that Iowa is terrible interesting. Nope, can't admit that Stanford is really good.

But Iowa is terrible. These things arent mutually exclusive.

 

[MIMIC]

They doused the shit out of him

 

[distantmantra]

But Iowa is terrible. These things arent mutually exclusive.

But that's being pushed to the detriment of Stanford being a talented team. PAC-12 getting no respect, basically.

As a born and raised west coast person, I always find the East coast bias/mental gymnastics interesting.

 

[NervousXtian]

Shut that dude up. . .

 

[Haloid1177]

Shut that dude up. . .

What an absolute jackass.

 

[Balphon]

I wonder if that guy follows McCaffrey around all the time shouting HEISMAN.

 

[Zach]

That guy is the wooorrrssst.

 

[clav]

I believe Northwestern forgot as well.

You're an asshole.

Northwestern beat teams that won their bowl games this year, too, unless you think those games don't matter.

Also you're destroying mobile GAF data.

 

[NervousXtian]

That said. . Yeah he shoulda got it. . Kid is amazing.

 

[sf2fanatic]

Shut that dude up. . .

And there's a security guy behind McCaffrey's left shoulder too. Wtf? I think McCaffrey wanted to say something to that fool.

 

[darkside31337]

How do they let a clearly not sober guy on television like that? Yeesh.

 

[squicken]

expecting Ole Miss to blow out OSU. OSU cannot play any sort of defense

e: well if Kelly is going to throw those right into double coverage maybe they can