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[peteykirch]

There's a difference between competing against CUSA schools and competing against BCS level schools on a regular basis for recruits.

Paganos didn't deliver on much in the way of recruits this year. I will acknowledge that he's a good coach though.

Edit: Yeah Draxal, getting Ron Prince would be huge.

I mean honestly, there wasn't much he could do.

The one gem in the fold Skai Moore was ushered away from Rutgers by his immediate family.

I'd seriously try to pull either Hafley or Joe Susan back to Rutgers. Hafley could wreck havoc in NJ and PA with his recruiting ties, and Joe Susan was Greg's right hand man for the longest time until he got the HC gig at Bucknell.

 

[Schmitty]

Ohio State signed 3 players already to the 2014 class on Saturday. Starting off strong right out of the gates.

Not looking forward to the next 3 years with sanctions and strong Ohio State team

 

[Sirpopopop]

I mean honestly, there wasn't much he could do.

The one gem in the fold Skai Moore was ushered away from Rutgers by his immediate family.

I'd seriously try to pull either Hafley or Joe Susan back to Rutgers. Hafley could wreck havoc in NJ and PA with his recruiting ties, and Joe Susan was Greg's right hand man for the longest time until he got the HC gig at Bucknell.

Skai Moore was a Dave Cohen recruit. Not a Jim Panagos recruit. Regardless, an ace recruiter like Hafley could have sewn that family issue up without a problem.

As for getting Susan back - not a chance. He's done and gone. He also wasn't the ace recruiter that Hafley was.

We only had two ace recruiters at Rutgers that could bring in multiple four star prospects - they were Jeff Hafley and Brian Angelichio. Angelichio is doing nice work in the NFL. He's not coming back.

Maybe we can get Hafley back, but more likely that we poach Darrel Wilson from Iowa.

 

[Draxal]

Skai Moore was a Dave Cohen recruit. Not a Jim Panagos recruit. Regardless, an ace recruiter like Hafley could have sewn that family issue up without a problem.

As for getting Susan back - not a chance. He's done and gone. He also wasn't the ace recruiter that Hafley was.

We only had two ace recruiters at Rutgers that could bring in multiple four star prospects - they were Jeff Hafley and Brian Angelichio. Angelichio is doing nice work in the NFL. He's not coming back.

Maybe we can get Hafley back, but more likely that we poach Darrel Wilson from Iowa.

We have had our disagreements about Schiano, but I will confess that he was an ace closer and Flood hasn't shown that he can close like Schiano.

I don't think Hafley's coming back, but I wouldn't be suprised if Campanile turns out to be a stud. He has ties (BC's coach his bro, former oc at Bosco) and we all NJ recruiting is about that.

I also don't think Peppers is going to end up at Stanford, there's going to be a blood bath for him (and I have no clue where's he going to end up).

 

[bucknuticus]

DeShaun Watson is going to be a beast. Hopefully Urbz doesn't steal him away.

Heard were going hard after him.

 

[krzy123]

Maybe they do it every year, but only 14 5 stars makes it sound like it's a "weaker" looking senior class.

The #1 guy has a former Auburn player as head coach, and the #3 guy will be hard to pull in past LSU.

i think last year they started at 12 or so 5-stars

anyways i think we have a decent shot at #1, the other 2 VA guys in the top 10, not so much.

 

[Azwethinkweiz]

Heard were going hard after him.

I think if Morris leaves for a HC spot, we'll lose Watson. But until then, it seems like he really wants to go to Clemson: https://twitter.com/ShaunWatson4/status/300329528297938945

 

[Monroeski]

Rivals 100 list.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-3235

Clemson has two guys in the top 25, and Iowa State Cyclone has a top 25er as well. I really wish Rutgers get Jabrill Peppers (best prospect to come out of the state in forever), but everybody think he's going out west Stanford.

#52 KD Cannon had a great visit to Lubbock this past weekend and is a lock for an All Name Team in 2014.

 

[cdyhybrid]

Sark needs to land Budda Baker. He loses too many in-state guys.

 

[Sirpopopop]

Sark needs to land Budda Baker. He loses too many in-state guys.

That's the best name for a recruit... ever.

 

[andycapps]

Sark needs to land Budda Baker. He loses too many in-state guys.

I was disappointed that he's not a big offensive lineman.

 

[Lonestar]

yeah, that's a great name.

 

[perfectchaos007]

I don't even care that Texas has 3 Rivals 100 commits for 2014, they're just going to flip to Bama by January.

 

[Gamecocks625]

I think if Morris leaves for a HC spot, we'll lose Watson. But until then, it seems like he really wants to go to Clemson: https://twitter.com/ShaunWatson4/status/300329528297938945

Dabo has some magic that's for sure. The guy can recruit. Will definitely be interesting to see where Morris goes after this year but you guys can always pull in some great recruits with Dabo.

 

[andycapps]

I don't even care that Texas has 3 Rivals 100 commits for 2014, they're just going to flip to Bama by January.

Worse, 2 of them might flip to the Aggies and then the 3rd to Bama.

 

[NEOPARADIGM]

The mid/bottom of the big 10 is just does not compare at all to the SEC.

Is there a conference that does? Honest question.

I don't know why the B1G seems perpetually caught in some fictional rivalry with the SEC. Does it come from SEC fans? Because I haven't seen a B1G fan claim the conference was better (or even on par) with the SEC in a long, long time.

For like thirty years the conference was all UM & OSU, with a dash of some decent Iowa teams; then for like the next 20 it was UM + OSU + PSU + Wisky. Then for the past ten or so, it's been kinda ravaged by parity and scandal.

So I guess I'm asking: at what point in history, exactly, has the B1G ever been truly on par with the SEC? The 1950s? The 80s? The collection of Bama, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida and Auburn has traditionally given the SEC five "power" programs, while the B1G has been pretty lucky to get three or four teams rolling at once, and God forbid OSU & UM have a slump, what's left? Michigan State, Iowa and Wisconsin? I'm sure the SEC is trembling with all that winning tradition those teams bring to the table.

I'm B1G, through and through. Just saying, in my 35 years, the SEC has always been slightly to a lot better. It just gets shoved in everyone's face every day now seems to be the only difference.

 

[Draxal]

Is there a conference that does? Honest question.

I don't know why the B1G seems perpetually caught in some fictional rivalry with the SEC. Does it come from SEC fans? Because I haven't seen a B1G fan claim the conference was better (or even on par) with the SEC in a long, long time.

For like thirty years the conference was all UM & OSU, with a dash of some decent Iowa teams; then for like the next 20 it was UM + OSU + PSU + Wisky. Then for the past ten or so, it's been kinda ravaged by parity and scandal.

So I guess I'm asking: at what point in history, exactly, has the B1G ever been truly on par with the SEC? The 1950s? The 80s? The collection of Bama, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida and Auburn has traditionally given the SEC five "power" programs, while the B1G has been pretty lucky to get three or four teams rolling at once, and God forbid OSU & UM have a slump, what's left? Michigan State, Iowa and Wisconsin? I'm sure the SEC is trembling with all that winning tradition those teams bring to the table.

I'm B1G, through and through. Just saying, in my 35 years, the SEC has always been slightly to a lot better. It just gets shoved in everyone's face every day now seems to be the only difference.

The disparity is much worse now, you had decent PSU schools in the 90's and Nebraska was a power then (even though they obviously weren't in the conference yet).

Just look at this year rival's top 25 recruiting rankings, three Big 10 schools in the top 25, TEN Sec schools there. I mean don't you find it depressing when the Big 10 loses in every bowl game possible which sucks for fans of those schools? I mean yeah, the Maurice Clarret U/UM are are allowed to have a slump once in a while, but the middle teams/bottoms teams have to start showing up a bit more.

Part of the reason this is mattering more is the consolidation to the 3-4-5 super conferences.

 

[BertramCooper]

I mean yeah, the Maurice Clarret U/UM are are allowed to have a slump once in a while, but the middle teams/bottoms teams have to start showing up a bit more.

The B1G programs I blame the most are Iowa, Illinois, and Purdue.

None of these teams has any legit excuses for being as bad as they've been the past few years.

 

[NEOPARADIGM]

Shit and I even forgot LSU.

 

[bucknuticus]

The disparity is much worse now, you had decent PSU schools in the 90's and Nebraska was a power then (even though they obviously weren't in the conference yet).

Just look at this year rival's top 25 recruiting rankings, three Big 10 schools in the top 25, TEN Sec schools there. I mean don't you find it depressing when the Big 10 loses in every bowl game possible which sucks for fans of those schools? I mean yeah, the Maurice Clarret U/UM are are allowed to have a slump once in a while, but the middle teams/bottoms teams have to start showing up a bit more.

Part of the reason this is mattering more is the consolidation to the 3-4-5 super conferences.

I frankly dont give a shit about the rest of conference nor the teams in it. As long as Ohio State is still performing and recruiting on top 5-10 level I dont give a shit.

 

[Draxal]

I frankly dont give a shit about the rest of conference nor the teams in it. As long as Ohio State is still performing and recruiting on top 5-10 level I dont give a shit.

Then what does Meyer gain from calling out the other schools? He's not doing it for no reason at all.

 

[KingGondo]

#52 KD Cannon had a great visit to Lubbock this past weekend and is a lock for an All Name Team in 2014.

This kid has swag, he'll want to play for a program with good uniforms.

 

[andycapps]

Shit and I even forgot LSU.

True, one could make an argument that you only count Florida if you count from 1990 on. They're definitely a modern power.

Then what does Meyer gain from calling out the other schools? He's not doing it for no reason at all.

Strength of schedule. He wants the B1G teams to be better to increase their chances of making a MNC if they're undefeated. Also it would better prepare them for facing an SEC team in the postseason.

This kid has swag, he'll want to play for a program with good uniforms.

That explains why I don't see Oregon on his list.

 

[cashman]

One repercussion from the Bev Kearney fall out is that the sister of the top Texas prospect Tony Brown signed with LSU instead of UT and the thinking is that Brown would go wherever his sister went.

 

[KingGondo]

That explains why I don't see Oregon on his list.

My point is that he'll clearly go to OSU.

Also, Tech has terrible uniforms.

 

[Lonestar]

 

[cdyhybrid]

That's the best name for a recruit... ever.

I was disappointed that he's not a big offensive lineman.

yeah, that's a great name.

We did legalize it!

Then what does Meyer gain from calling out the other schools? He's not doing it for no reason at all.

Giggles. Maybe he's learning from Spurrier and Kiffikins.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

This kid has swag, he'll want to play for a program with good uniforms.

I will punch the first columnist that calls him Demolition Man

 

[cdyhybrid]

That is a hell of a hairstyle. Never mind the dye.

 

[KingGondo]

I will punch the first columnist that calls him Demolition Man

Also, as stated before, his name is KD Cannon.

With that name and haircut, he could easily pass as one of Simon Phoenix's henchmen.

 

[perfectchaos007]

Also, as stated before, his name is KD Cannon.

With that name and haircut, he could easily pass as one of Simon Phoenix's henchmen.

I'm kinda seeing the GAF logo in there. An overhead view would be helpful.

 

[Monroeski]

This kid has swag, he'll want to play for a program with good uniforms.

Interestingly enough, "swag" has been a pretty common term amongst recruits in interviews ever since our new young staff took over and at least one recruit mentioned that Kingsbury is selling our relationship with Under Armour as making us the "Oregon of the South." :jnc

There's also another recruit with a similar-ish hair style, Willie Ivery, that is big on Tech that I like for another reason - after he took an official visit to TCU for the Tech game last season he noted in an interview that "there were almost as many Tech fans at the game as TCU fans." Combine that with the win and the fact that 2013 Tech signee was also at that game and mentioned it as being huge in his decision to ultimately sign with Tech and that was a pretty damn nice road game for us.

 

[yellowjacket25]

I frankly dont give a shit about the rest of conference nor the teams in it. As long as Ohio State is still performing and recruiting on top 5-10 level I dont give a shit.

I think pretty much everyone outside of the SEC feels this way. Although a lot of non Texas/Oklahoma Big 12 fans have started pretending that they care about their conference too.

 

[perfectchaos007]

Interestingly enough, "swag" has been a pretty common term amongst recruits in interviews ever since our new young staff took over and at least one recruit mentioned that Kingsbury is selling our relationship with Under Armour as making us the "Oregon of the South." :jnc

I wouldn't imagine UA having the financial luxury of giving your team newly designed uniforms and helmets for every game like Nike can. Maybe if UA can provide a couple of solid snazzy alt uniforms that would be sufficient enough.

Okay now thats clearly just a picture of the Honey Badger

 

[CouldBeWorse]

It's a minor miracle that Malzahn was able to deliver a top ten class. I hate losing Foster since he'll be a star anywhere, but Liner is a problem kid that would have burned out at Auburn. He's better off at Bama where Saban can whip him into shape.

It's too bad that we'll be looking up at Bama, A&M, and LSU for the next few years and that's the BEST CASE scenario with Ole Miss and Miss St on the rise. What a loaded division in a greatly imbalanced conference.

 

[Monroeski]

I wouldn't imagine UA having the financial luxury of giving your team newly designed uniforms and helmets for every game like Nike can.

Plus the CEO and founder of UA went to Maryland, not Tech. We are "a" flagship school for them, not "the" flagship school for them.

 

[bucknuticus]

Big 10 has lifted ban on night games in November, Urbz getting his way already. Prime time OSU MIchigan game coming your way soon.

Also coaches are debating on 9 or 10 game conf schedule, 8 game game schedule is off the table.

 

[Ceebs]

It's a minor miracle that Malzahn was able to deliver a top ten class. I hate losing Foster since he'll be a star anywhere, but Liner is a problem kid that would have burned out at Auburn. He's better off at Bama where Saban can whip him into shape.

It's too bad that we'll be looking up at Bama, A&M, and LSU for the next few years and that's the BEST CASE scenario with Ole Miss and Miss St on the rise. What a loaded division in a greatly imbalanced conference.

Hey now, we have an up and coming Vandy on our side of the conference now.

 

[Lonestar]

I think pretty much everyone outside of the SEC feels this way. Although a lot of non Texas/Oklahoma Big 12 fans have started pretending that they care about their conference too.

only the crazy people of SEC fandom, does this whole "cheer for the SEC" thing.

As far as I know, Alabama's won 3 out of 4, and the SEC has been dickriding our dynasty with all it's "7 in a row" nonsense.

 

[Schmitty]

this is great

 

[cdyhybrid]

Big 10 has lifted ban on night games in November, Urbz getting his way already. Prime time OSU MIchigan game coming your way soon.

Also coaches are debating on 9 or 10 game conf schedule, 8 game game schedule is off the table.

Prepare for a sea of bitching about TV determining game times.

 

[Draxal]

Peppers listed his top five today, in order Stanford/University of Maurice Clarret/Wolverine U/some stupid sec school/some stupid independent school.

This makes me cry.

And I have a gut feeling he's going to get Sabaned which is going to make me cry even more.

 

[Talon]

The B1G programs I blame the most are Iowa, Illinois, and Purdue.

None of these teams has any legit excuses for being as bad as they've been the past few years.

Purdue's collapse has been ridiculous.

 

[cashman]

This kid has swag, he'll want to play for a program with good uniforms.

I want Texas to go after this guy

 

[perfectchaos007]

I want Texas to go after this guy

Cut his face vertically down the middle. Left half is Nerlens Noel, right half is Tyrann Matheiu.

 

[bucknuticus]

He kind of looks like ocho cinco.

 

[Lonestar]

Sounds like Alabama hired Pat Hill for OL Coach. Comes from being the OL Coach at the Falcons, and was previously the man who built up Fresno State and was McElwain's Boss at the time.

 

[bluemax]

Dennis Erickson is now the co OC at Utah. Is there anywhere in the PAC 12 he hasn't coached at?

 

[Yaboosh]

He kind of looks like ocho cinco.

Ok George.

 

[bluemax]

1. Alabama
2. Texas A&M
3. Georgia
4. Florida
5. South Carolina
6. LSU
7. Notre Dame
8. FSU
9. Oregon
10. Vanderbilt

1. Alabama
2. Stanford
3. Ohio State
4. aTm
5. Oregon
6. Georgia
7. Florida
8. Louisville
9. Notre Dame
10. SCAR
...
13.LSU
...
16. FSU
25. Vanderbilt

My troll top 10 was only 3 teams different from the ESPN top 10.