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[jfkgoblue]

When was the last time you had an impact on the national championship?

What do you mean impact? We had an impact this year, we had an impact in 2006. Had an impact in 2005, when we knocked PSU out of it. Won in 1997. A single decade does not remove a program as elite or make a program as elite.

 

[El_Chino]

OK lets see where Michigan is in 2-3 years compared to LSU.

 

[chicko1983]

When was the last time you had an impact on the national championship?

2016. If they had beat tOSU, they would have been in the playoffs.

 

[chicko1983]

Apparently only 5 (FIVE!) 11+ win seasons since 1905 is elite

But tOSU has a losing record against them in the same time span.

So tOSU can't be elite either...?

 

[mre]

What do you mean impact? We had an impact this year, we had an impact in 2006. Had an impact in 2000. Won in 1997. A single decade does not remove a program as elite or make a program as elite.

What impact did you actually have this year? Play in a championship game of any kind?

Beat Penn State and kept them from the playoffs? Does that make Houston "elite" since they kept Oklahoma from the playoffs and were as meaningful to this season as Michigan?

2016. If they had beat tOSU, they would have been in the playoffs.

But... they didn't, so...

 

[bucknuticus]

But tOSU has a losing record against them in the same time span.

So tOSU can't be elite either...?

Michigan counts wins vs OSU before OSU was playing organized football. Since 1950 OSU is 37-30 vs Michigan. If we count the time since both have been in the big 10 (1918) the record is 48-46-4 OSU.

Michigans won 1 national title in the last 70 years, and that one was a split title. BUt sure, we'll keep hanging that hat on all time wins leader with such wins over the following schools: Kalamazoo, Case, Western Reserve, Albion, Hillsdale

 

[cdyhybrid]

But tOSU has a losing record against them in the same time span.

So tOSU can't be elite either...?

Nope. There are no elite teams in the B1G outside of Nebraska and Rutgers.

 

[jfkgoblue]

What impact did you actually have this year? Play in a championship game of any kind?

Beat Penn State and kept them from the playoffs? Does that make Houston "elite" since they kept Oklahoma from the playoffs?

But... they didn't, so...

You said impact, not "play in the champ game"

 

[mre]

You said impact, not "play in the champ game"

Sure, I was searching for what possible impact Michigan actually had on the season. Beating Penn State?

 

[jfkgoblue]

Sure, I was searching for what possible impact Michigan actually had on the season. Beating Penn State?

Were literally in the discussion about it until the last week.

You are just trying to troll Michigan fans at this point so I'm done.

 

[mre]

Were literally in the discussion about it until the last week.

You are just trying to troll Michigan fans at this point so I'm done.

No I'm not. You made the claim that your team is "elite" despite spending most of the past decade sucking. I'm trying to understand why you feel this to be the case, and am searching for some relevant impact you guys had to even this season. Beyond keeping Penn State out of the playoffs, I'm not finding any. "Almost" making the playoffs isn't having an impact.

 

[jfkgoblue]

No I'm not. You made the claim that your team is "elite" despite spending most of the past decade sucking. I'm trying to understand why you feel this to be the case, and am searching for some relevant impact you guys had to even this season. Beyond keeping Penn State out of the playoffs, I'm not finding any. "Almost" making the playoffs isn't having an impact.

Like I said, a single decade doesn't add or remove "elite" status, USC was still an elite program before this year. Texas is still an elite program. Bama was still an elite program before Saban.

 

[chicko1983]

But... they didn't, so...

They directly impacted who was playing in the playoffs, whilst they were still in contention for the playoff themselves, in their last regular season game of the year.

I'd say they impacted the NC this year, definitely.

By your reasoning, are the only teams that impact the NC this year Clemson and Bama?

Michigan counts wins vs OSU before OSU was playing organized football. Since 1950 OSU is 37-30 vs Michigan. If we count the time since both have been in the big 10 (1918) the record is 48-46-4 OSU.

You cant discount some years for my stat and then include them in yours just to suit.

I get that you are not supposed to like Michigan but you can't deny them as being an elite program if you consider tOSU as one.

 

[bucknuticus]

Michigan ranked #1 34 times in the AP poll.

Other notable teams: (these dont include this season)
OSU- 105
OU-100
ND-98
Bama-74
USC-90
UNL-72
Texas-44
FSU-72
Gata-41

 

[Lonestar]

All I know, is Michigan has more losses than Alabama (and Ohio State, Oklahoma and ND).

 

[mre]

By your reasoning, are the only teams that impact the NC this year Clemson and Bama?

Of course not. Washington and tOSU definitely did. I would say Penn State had significantly more of impact than Michigan and was more "in play" for a spot than Michigan, in that they actually played for a championship and because of winning said championship was close to getting into the playoffs.

Like I said, a single decade doesn't add or remove "elite" status, USC was still an elite program before this year. Texas is still an elite program. Bama was still an elite program before Saban.

Bullshit. Bama was a dumpster fire before Saban.

 

[jfkgoblue]

Michigan ranked #1 34 times in the AP poll.

Other notable teams:
OSU- 105
OU-100
ND-98
Bama-74
USC-90
UNL-72
Texas-44
FSU-72
Gata-41

if you go buy total appearances its

1)OSU
2)Michigan

OSU has just been lucky with its HC hires

 

[bucknuticus]

if you go buy total appearances its

1)OSU
2)Michigan

OSU has just been lucky with its HC hires

Our darn luck, having D2 head coaches fall into our laps.

Spoiler

elite schools hire elite coaches, aka not brady hoke

 

[jfkgoblue]

All I know, is Michigan has more losses than Alabama (and Ohio State, Oklahoma and ND).

But a higher winning percentage

Our darn luck, having D2 head coaches fall into our laps.

Spoiler

elite schools hire elite coaches, aka not brady hoke

Brady Hoke was 100% a Brandon creature

 

[bucknuticus]

But a higher winning percentage

.

Michigans won 1 national title in the last 70 years, and that one was a split title. BUt sure, we'll keep hanging that hat on all time wins leader with such wins over the following schools: Kalamazoo, Case, Western Reserve, Albion, Hillsdale

 

[Frozenprince]

Apparently only 5 (FIVE!) 11+ win seasons since 1905 is elite



pssssst, LSU has 7

That's super disingenuous because you're using when the season was only 11 games long and there were only 4-5 bowl games in any given year as a metric. Lower the bar to 10 win seasons, a whopping single win, and Michigan has a grand total of 1 less since 1964, when the NCAA began playing 10-11 games a year in D1 play.

 

[mre]

.

Wait, they have how many national championships since the end of WW?

 

[jfkgoblue]

.

In the past 40 years, OSU has won a grand total of 1 more NC than Michigan.

 

[bucknuticus]

But a higher winning percentage


Brady Hoke was 100% a Brandon creature

Elite Schools dont hire Pizza Barons as their AD

 

[NervousXtian]

That Mora thing.. he must have some strange definition of "spread".. thinking more like spread option like Oregon.

 

[Frozenprince]

Elite Schools dont hire Pizza Barons as their AD

I mean.

Texas has hired some fucking morons to be AD.

 

[jfkgoblue]

That's super disingenuous because you're using when the season was only 11 games long and there were only 4-5 bowl games in any given year as a metric. Lower the bar to 10 win seasons, a whopping single win, and Michigan has a grand total of 1 less since 1964, when the NCAA began playing 10-11 games a year in D1 play.

And the Big Ten only had one bowl team a year

 

[bucknuticus]

That's super disingenuous because you're using when the season was only 11 games long and there were only 4-5 bowl games in any given year as a metric. Lower the bar to 10 win seasons, a whopping single win, and Michigan has a grand total of 1 less since 1964, when the NCAA began playing 10-11 games a year in D1 play.

Bo played 12+ games 16 times.

Spoiler

urban has 5 11+ win season at OSU alone

 

[ryseing]

I mean.

Texas has hired some fucking morons to be AD.

Those morons didn't give away football tickets with the purchase of Cokes.

 

[chicko1983]

Of course not. Washington and tOSU definitely did. I would say Penn State had significantly more of impact than Michigan and was more "in play" for a spot than Michigan, in that they actually played for a championship and because of winning said championship was close to getting into the playoffs.

Up until 5 mins left in the last quarter of the regular season, Michigan was "in play" for the NC more than tOSU and Penn State.

I personally would have like to see Penn State ahead of tOSU in the playoff, and thought they were definitely the most deserving.

 

[urge26]

In the past 40 years, OSU has won a grand total of 1 more NC than Michigan.

I know it burns deep down inside we're the first CFP champion.

 

[jfkgoblue]

Those morons didn't give away football tickets with the purchase of Cokes.

While embarrassing, those were student tickets.

 

[Frozenprince]

Those morons didn't give away football tickets with the purchase of Cokes.

DeLoss Dodds did some profoundly carny ass shit

 

[urge26]

While embarrassing, those were student tickets.

I think it was Pepsi.

 

[mre]

I think it was Pepsi.

Oh, well that's much worse.

 

[bucknuticus]

I think it was Pepsi.

 

[urge26]

lol my bad, but the picture makes it that much more hilarious.

 

[andycapps]

Apparently only 5 (FIVE!) 11+ win seasons since 1905 is elite



pssssst, LSU has 7

UGA has 9.

 

[Lonestar]

But a higher winning percentage


Brady Hoke was 100% a Brandon creature

Something like .730 to .727, since it seems to count ties as half wins. Not bad, for starting like 15 years before, and a total of 40 some odd years before the semblance of organization occurs.

Maybe if Jim could lose less than 3 times a season, things would work out better.

 

[mre]

UGA has 9.

Bama has 6.

 

[Azwethinkweiz]

Hey everyone, I talked with the guys and we concluded that Clemson is also elite.

Thank you and good day.

 

[Draxal]

I don't know what to think of Clemson Fisting right now. Situation is so utterly bizzare.

 

[jfkgoblue]

Hey everyone, I talked with the guys and we concluded that Clemson is also elite.

Thank you and good day.

At what? probing assholes?

 

[Azwethinkweiz]

At what? probing assholes?

Well not all of us can be elite at running our mouths.

 

[urge26]

I don't know what to think of Clemson Fisting right now. Situation is so utterly bizzare.

Are you talking about the Clemson dude who stuck his hand in Curtis Samuel's junk and then said it's just football?

 

[jfkgoblue]

Well not all of us can be elite at running our mouths.

Boulware is trying though

 

[chicko1983]

Clemson @ $3.05, Bama @ $1.38 on my local betting account.

the line is Bama -6.5pts.

I think I am going to back Clemson straight and +6.5pts (to hopefully cover my bet if its a close loss).

Under/Over is 51pts...hmm, gonna be under I think. Two top defenses.

 

[Azwethinkweiz]

Boulware is trying though

As are you.

 

[Yaboosh]

I think the end of the season broke jfkgoblue's brain.

 

[jfkgoblue]

As are you.

Nah, I ain't trying, I am succeeding.