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College Football Week 9 - You've Got the Touch
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Kent State is 7-1, and their only loss is to an SEC school!
Wow. Fantastic news.http://espn.go.com/college-football...-carolina-gamecocks-coach-steve-spurrier-says
So Lattimore apparently has hyperextended ligaments and somehow managed to not fracture anything. He can eventually come back and play football.
That's.. wow
I like our chances against you with how hapless your offense seems to be. As long as JWJ stays healthy, I think we can manage enough yards on the ground to outscore you. Our offense can be terrible sometimes (just see NCState), but I think our receiver crew is a little better than yours, qb has more experience, and our running game is much better.
Do the numbers bear out your running game being "much better" than the Gatas? Just curious.
25. La Tech
24. Ok State
23. Texas
22. Arizona
21. West Virginia
20. Nebraska
19. Boise State
18. Texas Tech
17. USC
16. aTm
15. Mississippi State
14. Stanford
13. Clemson
12. Oklahoma
11. Oregon State
10. Louisville
9. Florida State
8. South Carolina
7. Florida
6. Georgia
5. LSU
4. Oregon
3. Notre Dame
2. Kansas State
1. Alabama
24. Ok State
23. Texas
22. Arizona
21. West Virginia
20. Nebraska
19. Boise State
18. Texas Tech
17. USC
16. aTm
15. Mississippi State
14. Stanford
13. Clemson
12. Oklahoma
11. Oregon State
10. Louisville
9. Florida State
8. South Carolina
7. Florida
6. Georgia
5. LSU
4. Oregon
3. Notre Dame
2. Kansas State
1. Alabama
If Texas is in there, I don't see why Rutgers can't be in there, too.So I hear Rutgers is still going to be Top 25 BCS.
I mean, WTF.
Do the numbers bear out your running game being "much better" than the Gatas? Just curious.
FSU: 348 - 2111 (6.07yd/att) - 29 TD
Gata: 360 - 1570 (4.36yd/att) - 16 TD
Make of it what you will.
Ruh-roh. Ducks gettin screwed up in here.
Herbstreit saying Oregon just needs to win out and they'll get the bid.
Do the numbers bear out your running game being "much better" than the Gatas? Just curious.
I think so but obviously UF has gone up against better defenses than we have. But UF's running game seems to mostly be Gillislee and Driskel. Even with losing Thompson, we have a triple threat between JWJ, Freeman and Pryor. With the occasional scramble by Manuel.
It will obviously be the cliche battle up front between lines, but I like our depth at back better than Florida's Gillislee.
zyxwvu4321
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Oregon's schedule is pretty back-loaded this year though. If they can stay undefeated and #2 in the polls, they'll probably still end up in the MNC game.
So there's a chance that Alabama, KSU, ND, and Oregon wins out, right? As it stands, #3 KSU's bounced
OMG DALLAS
I cut myself off because of what would be a hail mary victory, if not for Dez's blasted Knuckles.
I think I was trying to say, that Oregon could finish #2 in the polls, and somehow get skipped by KSU or ND?
I hope some of those other teams lose at least once, just to get out of the "too many undefeateds, so and so doesn't belong" argument.
I know full well, that, any loss by Alabama means we're out. LSU losing takes away that "lost to #1" and losing in Atlanta is losing too late. Lose to any of the other teams (A&M, Auburn, Cupcakes) would be even worse.
As it stands
Alabama has LSU, A&M and probably Georgia left to play
ND has USC
Oregon has USC, Stanford, Oregon State??? and either USC or UCLA
KSU has big name Big XII schools that aren't as good as their names used to be (Oklahoma State, TCU, Texas)
I know who has the easiest road left. They better start reserving plane tickets and hotel rooms.
Davis - "South Carolina in good position to make a case for an at large bid."
Really? 5th in the SEC is "good position"?
Aren't you glad to be in the SEC?
sonycowboy
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25. La Tech
24. Ok State
23. Texas
22. Arizona
21. West Virginia
20. Nebraska
19. Boise State
18. Texas Tech
17. USC
16. aTm
15. Mississippi State
14. Stanford
13. Clemson
12. Oklahoma
11. Oregon State
10. Louisville
9. Florida State
8. South Carolina
7. Florida
6. Georgia
5. LSU
4. Oregon
3. Notre Dame
2. Kansas State
1. Alabama
I got the top 15 right, with just Florida State and Oregon State a bit out of order.
The computers really, really hate the ACC more than I thought. I thought will all of the teams falling that they'd make bigger jumps, particularly Florida State.
I got the top 15 right, with just Florida State/South Carolina and Ok/Oregon State/Clemson a bit out of order.
The computers really, really hate the ACC more than I thought. I thought will all of the teams falling that they'd make bigger jumps, particularly Florida State.
A two loss SC team being ahead of us is stupid. Georgia isn't THAT good of a win.
Should be Oregon v. Notre Dame. So sick of the SEC.
Damn straight.
Never remember all the BCS rules. Do they drop the highest and lowest computer rankings?
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RK TEAM AVG PVS RK PTS % RK PTS % AVG A&H RB CM KM JS PW %
1 Alabama .9759 1 1 2868 .9976 1 1475 1.0000 3 3 1 2 3 7 3 .930
2 Kansas State .9400 3 3 2656 .9238 3 1366 .9261 1 1 3 3 2 1 1 .970
3 Notre Dame .9147 5 4 2553 .8880 4 1307 .8861 1 2 2 1 1 2 2 .970
4 Oregon .9136 4 2 2725 .9478 2 1391 .9431 5 4 4 5 5 8 5 .850
5 LSU .8163 6 5 2382 .8285 5 1225 .8305 6 8 5 8 6 4 6 .790
6 Georgia .7753 10 6 2205 .7670 6 1149 .7790 7 6 6 7 7 6 7 .780
7 Florida .7604 2 8 2061 .7169 8 1024 .6942 4 5 7 4 4 3 4 .870
8 South Carolina .5968 13 11 1588 .5523 11 838 .5681 9 9 8 11 10 9 9 .670
9 Florida State .5743 12 7 2193 .7628 7 1121 .7600 21 18 22 12 25 0 19 .200
10 Louisville .5661 16 10 1714 .5962 10 888 .6020 13 11 17 10 15 24 11 .500
11 Oregon State .5559 7 13 1449 .5040 13 684 .4637 8 7 11 6 8 11 8 .700
12 Oklahoma .5454 8 12 1473 .5123 12 758 .5139 10 15 9 20 9 5 10 .610
13 Clemson .5095 18 9 1917 .6668 9 976 .6617 21 17 19 18 0 0 21 .200
14 Stanford .4863 17 14 1307 .4546 15 626 .4244 11 10 13 9 11 12 13 .580
15 Mississippi State .3913 11 15 1231 .4282 18 569 .3858 16 14 18 14 21 21 15 .360
16 Texas A&M .3593 20 18 996 .3464 16 592 .4014 18 20 0 17 16 15 18 .330
17 USC .3509 9 16 1200 .4174 17 583 .3953 19 23 16 0 19 18 20 .240
18 Texas Tech .3242 14 19 604 .2101 20 284 .1925 12 12 10 13 13 10 12 .570
19 Boise State .3123 21 17 1142 .3972 14 634 .4298 23 22 12 21 0 0 24 .110
20 Nebraska .2568 NR 21 542 .1885 21 283 .1919 15 16 23 16 14 19 14 .390
21 West Virginia .2512 19 20 554 .1927 19 326 .2210 17 21 14 24 18 13 17 .340
22 Arizona .1692 NR NR 81 .0282 NR 14 .0095 14 13 15 15 12 14 16 .470
23 Texas .1640 23 22 392 .1363 22 200 .1356 20 19 20 25 20 16 23 .220
24 Oklahoma State .0893 NR 25 245 .0852 24 166 .1125 25 0 21 0 23 22 0 .070
25 Louisiana Tech .0784 NR 24 304 .1057 23 191 .1295 31 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000Yes.Never remember all the BCS rules. Do they drop the highest and lowest computer rankings?
Code:RK TEAM AVG PVS RK PTS % RK PTS % AVG A&H RB CM KM JS PW % 1 Alabama .9759 1 1 2868 .9976 1 1475 1.0000 3 3 1 2 3 7 3 .930 2 Kansas State .9400 3 3 2656 .9238 3 1366 .9261 1 1 3 3 2 1 1 .970 3 Notre Dame .9147 5 4 2553 .8880 4 1307 .8861 1 2 2 1 1 2 2 .970 4 Oregon .9136 4 2 2725 .9478 2 1391 .9431 5 4 4 5 5 8 5 .850 5 LSU .8163 6 5 2382 .8285 5 1225 .8305 6 8 5 8 6 4 6 .790 6 Georgia .7753 10 6 2205 .7670 6 1149 .7790 7 6 6 7 7 6 7 .780 7 Florida .7604 2 8 2061 .7169 8 1024 .6942 4 5 7 4 4 3 4 .870 8 South Carolina .5968 13 11 1588 .5523 11 838 .5681 9 9 8 11 10 9 9 .670 9 Florida State .5743 12 7 2193 .7628 7 1121 .7600 21 18 22 12 25 0 19 .200 10 Louisville .5661 16 10 1714 .5962 10 888 .6020 13 11 17 10 15 24 11 .500 11 Oregon State .5559 7 13 1449 .5040 13 684 .4637 8 7 11 6 8 11 8 .700 12 Oklahoma .5454 8 12 1473 .5123 12 758 .5139 10 15 9 20 9 5 10 .610 13 Clemson .5095 18 9 1917 .6668 9 976 .6617 21 17 19 18 0 0 21 .200 14 Stanford .4863 17 14 1307 .4546 15 626 .4244 11 10 13 9 11 12 13 .580 15 Mississippi State .3913 11 15 1231 .4282 18 569 .3858 16 14 18 14 21 21 15 .360 16 Texas A&M .3593 20 18 996 .3464 16 592 .4014 18 20 0 17 16 15 18 .330 17 USC .3509 9 16 1200 .4174 17 583 .3953 19 23 16 0 19 18 20 .240 18 Texas Tech .3242 14 19 604 .2101 20 284 .1925 12 12 10 13 13 10 12 .570 19 Boise State .3123 21 17 1142 .3972 14 634 .4298 23 22 12 21 0 0 24 .110 20 Nebraska .2568 NR 21 542 .1885 21 283 .1919 15 16 23 16 14 19 14 .390 21 West Virginia .2512 19 20 554 .1927 19 326 .2210 17 21 14 24 18 13 17 .340 22 Arizona .1692 NR NR 81 .0282 NR 14 .0095 14 13 15 15 12 14 16 .470 23 Texas .1640 23 22 392 .1363 22 200 .1356 20 19 20 25 20 16 23 .220 24 Oklahoma State .0893 NR 25 245 .0852 24 166 .1125 25 0 21 0 23 22 0 .070 25 Louisiana Tech .0784 NR 24 304 .1057 23 191 .1295 31 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
zyxwvu4321
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Never remember all the BCS rules. Do they drop the highest and lowest computer rankings?
Yep.
Davis - "South Carolina in good position to make a case for an at large bid."
Really? 5th in the SEC is "good position"?
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Oregon's schedule is pretty back-loaded this year though.
I dunno, they still have to play us.
ElectricBlue187
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Davis - "South Carolina in good position to make a case for an at large bid."
Really? 5th in the SEC is "good position"?
Loss 1: Currently #5
Loss 2: Currently #7
After last night's performance I don't think a loss at Florida really should merit that kind of respect, but that's probably why.
GhostWriter24
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Notre Dame at #3, amazing. The Pac-12/SEC tears will be salty as fuck tonight.
sonycowboy
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Good, cause :jnc Sagarin
He also torpedoed Oregon with an 8... But, seriously, you're 99.99% unanimous #1 in the polls... The computers could think you were 6th overall and you'd still be #1 in the BCS...
Loss 1: Currently #5
Loss 2: Currently #7
After last night's performance I don't think a loss at Florida really should merit that kind of respect, but that's probably why.
Uhhh.. Would it be too much to ask for a couple of quality wins when you're sitting there with 2 losses? Or is just losing to really good teams enough? (calling Arky 2011)
ElectricBlue187
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Notre Dame at #3, amazing. The Pac-12/SEC tears will be salty as fuck tonight.
I'm relieved its not #2. Go K-State!
timetokill
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Notre Dame at #3, amazing. The Pac-12/SEC tears will be salty as fuck tonight.
*shrug* They're exactly where I thought they would be. What's there to be salty about?
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It was really more a comment towards no league being allowed to have more than two teams in the BCS. USCe needs a lot of help to even qualify, which is why I found that comment so laughable.
Notre Dame at #3, amazing. The Pac-12/SEC tears will be salty as fuck tonight.
No salt from me.
Notre Dame at #3, amazing. The Pac-12/SEC tears will be salty as fuck tonight.
Nobody cares. And that seems to be the worst thing you could have hoped for.
Woo, Nebraska ranked again!
... too bad they're the only ranked Big 10 team now.
And the fact that because they are the best B1G team*, they'll probably go to a BCS bowl is such a sham.
*eligible
Notre Dame at #3, amazing. The Pac-12/SEC tears will be salty as fuck tonight.
SEC has 5 of the top 8, including a 2 loss team being ahead of unbeatens and a 1 loss team. Dont think they will be too upset.
Alligatorjandro
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Go Gators
And the fact that because they are the best B1G team*, they'll probably go to a BCS bowl is such a sham.
*eligible
That'd require them to actually win a conference championship, though.
I'm not sure they're familiar with the concept anymore.
BertramCooper
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Woo, Nebraska ranked again!
... too bad they're the only ranked Big 10 team now.
Hey, what about Ohi...
...oh, wait. Never mind.
ElectricBlue187
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Uhhh.. Would it be too much to ask for a couple of quality wins when you're sitting there with 2 losses? Or is just losing to really good teams enough? (calling Arky 2011)
Well SC beat GA(#5) 35-7 so there's that.
We're also playing Clemson (#13) at the end of the season, so there's a chance of another 'quality' win
Probably as tough a schedule as anyone else in the top 10 can claim
BertramCooper
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Timetokill, is it okay if I kill your dog's other grandma in order to delay the Pick 'Em scores?
Because I'm pretty sure I don't want to see mine.
Because I'm pretty sure I don't want to see mine.
Well SC beat GA(#5) 35-7 so there's that.
We're also playing Clemson (#13) at the end of the season, so there's a chance of another 'quality' win
Probably as tough a schedule as anyone else in the top 10 can claim
Except Florida, KState, Notre Dame, LSU and Bama.
Strength of Schedule doesn't mean anything if you lose half of your difficult games.
You will all be very excited to learn that I have produced the very first Unskewed BCS numbers!
My methodology here is to tweak the Derp Poll and SID Poll numbers to account for oversampling of overraters (the computer polls are infallible, so I've left those untouched). Through extensive statistical modeling and going through reams of past data, I've determined the over-/under-ratings to be as follows:
SEC: 10% overrated
Big 12: 15% overrated
ND: 25% overrated
ACC and CUSA 2.0: rated accurately
Pac-12: 10% underrated
B1G: 15% underrated
Future CUSA 2.0 teams: 25% underrated
Without further ado, the unskewed, correct BCS numbers:
The first thing that leaps to notice, of course, is that Notre Dame is still too high in the rankings. Unfortunately, the teams just below them are all SEC teams, which are also overrated, so there wasn't much room to fall there.
You'll also notice that Stanford is ahead of Oklahoma, which seems more common-sensical according to the Threeballz Test (TM).
The other obvious change is that Louisiana Tech is slightly higher.
Anyway, I hope this helps you see what the effete and girlish lamestream media doesn't want you to see. You're welcome!
My methodology here is to tweak the Derp Poll and SID Poll numbers to account for oversampling of overraters (the computer polls are infallible, so I've left those untouched). Through extensive statistical modeling and going through reams of past data, I've determined the over-/under-ratings to be as follows:
SEC: 10% overrated
Big 12: 15% overrated
ND: 25% overrated
ACC and CUSA 2.0: rated accurately
Pac-12: 10% underrated
B1G: 15% underrated
Future CUSA 2.0 teams: 25% underrated
Without further ado, the unskewed, correct BCS numbers:
Code:
RK TEAM TOTAL DERP SID
1 Oregon 0.9767 1.0426 1.0374
2 Alabama 0.9093 0.8978 0.9000
3 Kansas State 0.8475 0.7852 0.7872
4 Notre Dame 0.7669 0.6660 0.6646
5 LSU 0.7610 0.7457 0.7475
6 Georgia 0.7238 0.6903 0.7011
7 Florida 0.7133 0.6452 0.6248
8 Oregon State 0.5882 0.5544 0.5101
9 Florida State 0.5743 0.7628 0.7600
10 Louisville 0.5661 0.5962 0.6020
11 South Carolina 0.5595 0.4971 0.5113
12 Stanford 0.5156 0.5001 0.4668
13 Clemson 0.5095 0.6668 0.6617
14 Oklahoma 0.4941 0.4355 0.4368
15 Boise State 0.3813 0.4965 0.53725
16 USC 0.3780 0.4591 0.4348
17 Misspipisssi St 0.3642 0.3854 0.3472
18 Texas A&M 0.3343 0.3118 0.3613
19 Texas Tech 0.3041 0.1786 0.1636
20 Nebraska 0.2758 0.2168 0.2207
21 West Virginia 0.2305 0.1638 0.1879
22 Arizona 0.1705 0.0310 0.0105
23 Texas 0.1504 0.1159 0.1153
24 Louisiana Tech 0.0980 0.1321 0.1619
25 Oklahoma State 0.0793 0.0724 0.0956The first thing that leaps to notice, of course, is that Notre Dame is still too high in the rankings. Unfortunately, the teams just below them are all SEC teams, which are also overrated, so there wasn't much room to fall there.
You'll also notice that Stanford is ahead of Oklahoma, which seems more common-sensical according to the Threeballz Test (TM).
The other obvious change is that Louisiana Tech is slightly higher.
Anyway, I hope this helps you see what the effete and girlish lamestream media doesn't want you to see. You're welcome!
That'd require them to actually win a conference championship, though.
I'm not sure they're familiar with the concept anymore.
Aside from Penn State, Nebraska's remaining schedule are push overs.
Mgoblue201
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Even when unskewed the B1G sucks. Until Purdue is number one, I don't think it's unskewed enough.
Aside from Penn State, Nebraska's remaining schedule are push overs.
Which means Nebraska is going to lost to Michigan State 9-36
Official update from the University: http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102812aac.html
The fact that there's even a chance for Lattimore to play football again after yesterday is amazing. Now to wait and see how the surgery goes.
University of South Carolina junior running back Marcus Lattimore suffered a significant impact to the front of his right knee during the Tennessee game on Saturday. The ensuing hyperextension of the knee resulted in injury to several ligaments. There were no fractures or additional injuries, according to team physician Dr. Jeffrey Guy. Lattimore's surgically repaired left knee was uninjured during the play.
Lattimore is resting comfortably and will continue to be evaluated over the course of the week. Marcus has already begun the process of prehabilitation prior to surgery and to his eventual return to football.
The fact that there's even a chance for Lattimore to play football again after yesterday is amazing. Now to wait and see how the surgery goes.
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