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[Draugoth]

The group had already been closely linked with the situation, which has seen Itch.io and Steam scramble to appease payment providers like Visa as they suddenly took an interest in the kind of games available on the platforms, especially those which contravened rules and "standards" the payment providers apparently had. It led to Itch.io deindexing all NSFW content from its browse and search pages, and Steam introducing vague new rules about adult content, while removing a slew of games.

"In response to false claims and misinformation about our campaign, we're setting the record straight," wrote Collective Shout in a Facebook update. "Some have asked why we involved payment processors, and others have claimed we are responsible for Itch.io removing all NSFW content.


"We raised our objection to r*pe and incest games on Steam for months, and they ignored us for months. We approached payment processors because Steam did not respond to us.


"We called on Itch.io to remove r*pe and incest games that we argued normalised violence and abuse of women. Itch.io made the decision to remove all NSFW content. Our objections were to content that involved s*xualised violence and torture of women."

Collective Shout shared a timeline of the campaign on its website, noting how it began with No Mercy, a game which involves extreme sexual violence, being brought to its in March. The group's actions - a mixture of petitioning, emailing, and lobbying - began in early April and led to the game being removed from sale later that month.

Article:

"We approached payment processors because Steam did not respond" - Australian pressure group Collective Shout claims responsibility for Steam and Itch.io NSFW game removal

Source: https://www.eurogamer.net/we-approached-payment-processors-because-steam-did-not-respond-australian-pressure-group-collective-shout-claims-responsibility-for-steam-and-itchio-nsfw-game-removal

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

Why the fuck do they even care what people are playing. I swear this shit probably bothers me way more than it should.

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

They also got Mouthwashing pulled from itch.io.

 

[Fake]

Well, there is.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Why the fuck do they even care what people are playing. I swear this shit probably bothers me way more than it should.

Don't you see? If we prohibit representation of things we hate people will never think of them on their own and bad things will stop happening.

 

[Germuso]

Dont you have weapons in usa?

 

[Generic]

Our objections were to content that involved s*xualised violence and torture of women.

How is incest sexualized violence?

 

[bighugeguns]

Lmao, gooners be riled up!

 

[Jinzo Prime]

Dont you have weapons in usa?

They're Australian.

 

[NeverYouMind]

Good. Can they do something about roguelikes by bullshitting about them being a gateway to gambling?

 

[bender]

Good. Can they do something about roguelikes by bullshitting about them being a gateway to gambling?

RIP Valve and Counter-Strike

 

[TommyCronin6969]

They also got Mouthwashing pulled from itch.io.

Free advertising

 

[Spukc]

Why the fuck do they even care what people are playing. I swear this shit probably bothers me way more than it should.

Straight to hell son

 

[adamsapple]

They also got Mouthwashing pulled from itch.io.

Does it have the things these guys are claiming? Never played it but only heard good things about it as a game.

 

[Barakov]

They also got Mouthwashing pulled from itch.io.

If more horror games get pulled then we'll know they'll start pulling everything down they don't like.

 

[_Ex_]

For every inch of freedom given we lose a mile of liberty.

 

[bitbydeath]

Bigger question is why are Steam and Itcho are caving?

Are they being threatened in some way?

 

[ZehDon]

They also got Mouthwashing pulled from itch.io.

That's not what they're saying:

"We called on Itch.io to remove r*pe and incest games that we argued normalised violence and abuse of women. Itch.io made the decision to remove all NSFW content. Our objections were to content that involved s*xualised violence and torture of women."

Their statement isn't so much claiming responsibility as it is clarifying what they're responsible for. They pressured payment processors to prevent sale of games that featured violence and abuse towards women. They didn't ask Itch.io to remove all NSFW content - they, apparently, did that on their own.

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

I'm so tired of the "feminists vs video games" zeitgeist, 13 years of these broads trying to violate our right to free speech.

Fuck off already.

 

[Panajev2001a]

That's not what they're saying:

Their statement isn't so much claiming responsibility as it is clarifying what they're responsible for. They pressured payment processors to prevent sale of games that featured violence and abuse towards women. They didn't ask Itch.io to remove all NSFW content - they, apparently, did that on their own.

I think they knew what they were doing / the effect they wanted to have when they are asking for fine grained editorial review (and the responsibility you take once you start deciding what to censor / remove from the service). This is the "oh we did not mean for that to happen (but we totally love it did, wink wink nudge nudge)".

The argument "VISA funds nasty pornography" is a phony and idiotic nasty argument that unfortunately worked. They are processing transactions as much as the government is doing when they "allow" you to use cash to pay for things (ah yes, the push for cashless societies can be framed in this light too ).

 

[Panajev2001a]

Bigger question is why are Steam and Itcho are caving?

Are they being threatened in some way?

Because the payment processors caved to the online mobbing and pressure. Because there is no real competition in that market and you see what happens where there is none…

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Damn I read it as Collective Soul and was confused as fuck. Time for bed.

 

[Hari Seldon]

Are these the lunatics that think this is protecting OF creators?

 

[March Climber]

Are these the lunatics that think this is protecting OF creators?

There's a high likelihood they'd want that shut down too.

 

[Jacobson]

Collective Butthole

 

[Success]

Collective Shout is the unified enemy we need to bring ERA and GAF back together again.

 

[Hudo]

I bet none of their boobs jiggle.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Why the fuck do they even care what people are playing. I swear this shit probably bothers me way more than it should.

Than it should? You know how it goes, "Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you. "

 

[Connificent]

 

[PlayStaytion]

So Karens will disappear with them,

 

[Radical_3d]

Well, there is.

 

[Black_Stride]

Collective Shout is the unified enemy we need to bring ERA and GAF back together again.

I think Rape and Incest games are weird and have no issue with them being removed.

Conversely.


I literally wouldnt even know Steam had Rape and Incest games if it werent for these groups talking about removing them.

 

[balls of snow]

Does it have the things these guys are claiming? Never played it but only heard good things about it as a game.

Spoiler: Spoiler

Very clearly implied rape.

But I dont think thats enough to pull the game. Nothing is shown. Just the consequences.

 

[Minari]

Ugh..these motherfuckers must have too much time on their hands...

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Why the fuck do they even care what people are playing.

You honestly see no issue with people interacting with this type of content? What is this, 1000-year old dragon in a 5-year old loli body being gangbanged for 30 pages, but it's perfectly fine since "it's just a cartoon"?

 

[InterMusketeer]

Why are payment processors caving to weird Australian feminist activist groups? That's the real question.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Bigger question is why are Steam and Itcho are caving?

Are they being threatened in some way?

Probably payment processors told Steam (and by "payment processors" I mean a top rank exec that has a daughter) that either they remove the games or they will block all CC payments from Steam.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Why are payment processors caving to weird Australian feminist activist groups? That's the real question.

Because they don't want "Mastercard enabling women abuse in videogames" in the newspaper.

 

[InterMusketeer]

Because they don't want "Mastercard enabling women abuse in videogames" in the newspaper.

In Australia, where collective shout is known as a bunch of morons. Who would seriously report on this?

 

[crackajack]

Because they don't want "Mastercard enabling women abuse in videogames" in the newspaper.

Those groups most likely will not stop here, now that they "won". Any violence against women will be next and that includes M-rated games, or lower rated. Will be fun, when on one side some scream for more inclusion and another group will torch you for allowing anything bad happen to those female virtual actors. Can also see a follow up then being violence against and among men (and even aliens) should stop, since that drives toxic masculinity....

 

[PlayStaytion]

Those groups most likely will not stop here, now that they "won". Any violence against women will be next and that includes M-rated games, or lower rated. Will be fun, when on one side some scream for more inclusion and another group will torch you for allowing anything bad happen to those female virtual actors. Can also see a follow up then being violence against and among men (and even aliens) should stop, since that drives toxic masculinity....

It's like being underage forever, I hate that feeling.

 

[Braag]

Lmao, gooners be riled up!

I mean, sure it's a bunch of weird gooner games now. But this is a slippery slope that could end badly. Groups like the this won't be happy by simply getting rid of bunch of gooner games from Steam. If that was their only objective, they might as well just close up shop and find new jobs now. They have shown interest in shutting down games like GTA and the likes because you can attack women in them. This is more like testing the waters and boundaries on how far they can go to get outside help for their goals.

 

[bighugeguns]

I mean, sure it's a bunch of weird gooner games now. But this is a slippery slope that could end badly. Groups like the this won't be happy by simply getting rid of bunch of gooner games from Steam. If that was their only objective, they might as well just close up shop and find new jobs now. They have shown interest in shutting down games like GTA and the likes because you can attack women in them. This is more like testing the waters and boundaries on how far they can go to get outside help for their goals.

I think oversexualization in entertainment goods aimed at young people could maybe be damaging to Western societies. There's all kinds of weird conflicts and wars likely around the corner so everyone, especially teens (near future military) needs to get squared away, quickly. Think it's not outrageous to say you should get used to shit like this.

 

[YOU PC BRO?!]

Collective Shout... aka weaponised insecurity

 

[PeteBull]

Why the fuck do they even care what people are playing. I swear this shit probably bothers me way more than it should.

Apparently CEO of that shit is conservative woman, men having no access to porn content makes them more horny(less postnut clarity obviously) so they are even more powerless/more simpy towards women, so it makes sense she wants to fuck them up even more, since most of modern conservative women are basically cosplaying as ones, deep down they are feminists.

 

[Three]

Why are payment processors caving to weird Australian feminist activist groups? That's the real question.

They probably aren't. It's more just those feminist activist groups ratted out steam to the payment processors own ToS.
Australian Feminist group: "Hey steam is breaking your ToS"
Payment Processors: "steam stop breaking our ToS"
Steam: removes a bunch of games for the payment processors.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

I think oversexualization in entertainment goods aimed at young people could maybe be damaging to Western societies. There's all kinds of weird conflicts and wars likely around the corner so everyone, especially teens (near future military) needs to get squared away, quickly. Think it's not outrageous to say you should get used to shit like this.

Yeah, that's why they publicly DEFEND MOVIES LIKE CUTIES AND POOR THINGS, which promote pedophilia.

Fucking hell, either you are extremely gaslighting or you ignore what this is about. It's about censorship and power, nothing more.


Bonus track: let the actual pedos go unchecked, exactly as the MeToo and other fake pro-women groups.

They probably aren't. It's more just those feminist activist groups ratted out steam to the payment processors own ToS.
Australian Feminist group: "Hey steam is breaking your ToS"
Payment Processors: "steam stop breaking our ToS"
Steam: removes a bunch of games for the payment processors.

Payment processors are using these groups as masquerade for their own decisions. A megacorp would NEVER pay any attention to a random bunch of deranged women if they were not fully on board with it.


Stop thinking that organizations like this or Sweet Baby would have any sway without the massive backing of megacorps. This is not how the real world works.

 

[peish]

Need a Chinese company to make games where you play as a sexy woman going around raping guys and collecting their schlongs and turning them into sexless beings

 

[Shifty1897]

It's like being underage forever, I hate that feeling.

Mina-san the 1000 year old dragon with the body of a child feels the same way.

In all seriousness, I'm obviously not a fan of these kinds of games and I'm not sure they promote a healthy society. However, banning shit is a slippery slope. The goalposts have been moved so far in my state that I can't watch any porn legally.

 

[Astray]

They also got Mouthwashing pulled from itch.io.

No they didn't lol, itch.io had it deindexed since 2024 because the page is simply a link to Steam.