BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
I don't really care about gooner slop but it's not setting a good precedent. Pressure the credit card companies and they will cave.
Colletive Shout claim responsibility for shutting down Steam NSFW Games
Mistake
Member
The twitch thots are on their radar now. They posted about it
Topher
Identifies as young
Just to be clear, I'm not defending this "collective shout" organization. These people will not stop with rape and incest. That's clear. Their goal is obviously to have all porn banned. That's insane and extreme. My point is I don't expect credit card companies to along with with that. Maybe that's naive. I hope not. I hope the potential of lost revenue from the porn industry is what keeps them from going down that rabbit hole. I'm not going to shed a single tear for a rape game being taken off Steam, but the problem with organizations like this is that they never stop having a cause even when they win.
Do we know why GTA 2 was delisted?
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Hawk The Slayer
Member
Never own any of those porn games but I still don't think it's a good idea to remove them because of what might come after. Since you do not want to give companies like this, SBI, and other similar groups a good foothold so they can later decide to censor or control more and more things beyond what they are doing now. Especially shouldn't be censor/removed since you have to opt in to adult content in order to see these porn games anyway. Now if Steam has these porn games out on the front pages by default with no way to filter them than I could understand but this isn't it.
The Gamer Triple H
Gold Member
Hell, they were still processing payments to only fans content that contained CSAM and actual sexual assault material. They finally stopped when investigators got involved.
Topher
Identifies as young
I imagine credit card processors are largely ignorant about what is being sold. Probably would rather not know.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
You can(could) release whatever on Steam and itch ESRB/CERO/USK/PEGI/ACB dont actually look at those game unless someone makes a huff, because Steam/Itch doesnt require games to be rated by a ratings board to release on the service.
Console releases usually if not always go through the ratings system.
FYI.
When your defense of something is "what about" that other thing.
Its called a whataboutism and its very poor like literally not even a defense.
If you want to defend Rape and Incest games, defend them, dont point fingers at other games because thats not the topic at hand.
You want to defend Rape and Incest games, start your sentence with "Leave the Rape and Incest games on Steam because........" Then continue from there with your argument.
If you would like to go back to the Assassins Creed thread to discuss a Black Samurai killing people...not random people FYI we can totally go to that thread to justify why Assassins Creed allows the killing of what in universe would be considered bad people (their race should be irrelevent but you brought it up).
Crying "whataboutism" is as intellectually lazy as anything. That term gets thrown around anytime someone tries to contextualize something or provide a valid analogue. It's a really easy way to handwave a salient point that someone doesn't like and for some reason, a lot of people just accept that like it's the end-all-be-all argument. Which it isn't.
The Mad Draklor
Member
Authoritarians absolutely hate "Don't like it, don't buy it" because that doesn't give them control.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
I literally told the poster we could go discuss yasuke killing people in the AC thread.
But saying how come rape and incest isnt allowed when i can be black and kill asian people is literally a whatabutism.
They are totally different topics, how exactly are we supposed to have a discussion about rape and incest relating it to being a black samurai in japan killing japanese people?
Then trying to use the slippery slope argument of; well one is a crime and the other is a crime too so either they both get banned or none get banned.
Come on man which argument are you gonna call intellectually lazy?
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
I was living in Australia when GTAV (XB1/PS4) came out.......i bought the disk at either EB of JB.
Which one was banned or was it banned down the line?
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Yeah, that wasn't a good example on his part, but taken in totality, I think it's a fair point. We do accept a lot of inappropriate content in games, so why are we drawing the line here? Especially when you could argue that plenty of what is considered acceptable in games tends to be more reprehensible than the content in many of the games that got delisted.
The point is, when you consider the broader context of essentially "anything goes" in video game content, it seems more than a little silly that suddenly consumers can't even have a choice in regards to this lone subject matter.
Mithos
Member
Target and Kmart according to articles.
Aenima
Member
Target and Kmart removed GTAV due to feminazi online petitions in Australia.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-30328314
I'll say the same thing I said in the other thread on this topic. I'm a fan a free speech. I also recognize that it can't be used as an excuse to allow illegal perversions and other nonsense to be normalized. I'm just providing an alternate perspective. Thankfully, Steam has a nice feature to filter out all that nonsense, which I have turned on. I returned to PC gaming about 2 years ago and was floored at all the crazy messed up games that are other there. Be it incest, pedophilia, beastality, rape, goofy fetishes, etc. It's all out there. I think it is normal for a strong company, as well as normal people for that matter, to want to distance themselves from and avoid their own brand being tied to heinous nonsense. It's perfectly rational for a company to say "I don't want my brand tied to enabling Cousin Pissing On You Simulator 3.0". I get it. Is there a balance that has to be struck to ensure the true reality of freedom of speech is protected? Of course. However, the creation or distribution of obscene materials is not protected by freedom of speech, as determined by the courts in Roth vs. United States, 354 U.S. 476 (1957). It's not a crutch that allows you to do whatever the hell you want
Exactly my point, it's the payment processors own policy and these groups just ratted out a client to them. They don't really have any sway on the megacorps. It would be like saying I have sway/influence on the mods if I were to report something here that's against the ToS. I don't really, I'm just ratting somebody out for breaking policy.
Aenima
Member
Holy freaking hypocrisy on steroids. The parasite that made a career trying to censor and actually managed to damage the videogame industry in the west about sexualized women in videogames, now is also against the payment processors because it puts in danger "sex workers".
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Topher
Identifies as young
Holy freaking hypocrisy on steroids. The parasite that made a career trying to censor and actually managed to damage the videogame industry in the west about sexualized women in videogames, now is also against the payment processors because it puts in danger "sex workers".
"puritanical angry moms"? what the hell?
Omnipunctual Godot
Member
If you're comfortable with special interest groups and payment processors dictating what you, as an adult, can read, watch, or play, eventually you'll get the content you deserve.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Holy freaking hypocrisy on steroids. The parasite that made a career trying to censor and actually managed to damage the videogame industry in the west about sexualized women in videogames, now is also against the payment processors because it puts in danger "sex workers".
This fucking moron.
It's your own damn fault, Anita.
archangelmorph
Gold Member
Do you know who else "claims responsibility" when bad things happen in public view?
The group had already been closely linked with the situation, which has seen Itch.io and Steam scramble to appease payment providers like Visa as they suddenly took an interest in the kind of games available on the platforms, especially those which contravened rules and "standards" the payment providers apparently had. It led to Itch.io deindexing all NSFW content from its browse and search pages, and Steam introducing vague new rules about adult content, while removing a slew of games.
Collective Shout shared a timeline of the campaign on its website, noting how it began with No Mercy, a game which involves extreme sexual violence, being brought to its in March. The group's actions - a mixture of petitioning, emailing, and lobbying - began in early April and led to the game being removed from sale later that month.
Article: "We approached payment processors because Steam did not respond" - Australian pressure group Collective Shout claims responsibility for Steam and Itch.io NSFW game removal
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Draugoth
Gold Member
Holy freaking hypocrisy on steroids. The parasite that made a career trying to censor and actually managed to damage the videogame industry in the west about sexualized women in videogames, now is also against the payment processors because it puts in danger "sex workers".
Collective Shout is literally run by Republic of Gilead wannabes
