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rrs

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DJ Ghazi said:
About that..... there are no demos on the old SDK that run well.
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Finalizer said:
Maybe the upclock was to help counter whatever hardware revision was introduced to the latest SDK? Honestly have no clue here.
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I could just take a leap at saying all we have seen of the Xbox One is on reference PC hardware and disappointment will follow soon. I could be quite wrong with this assumption though.
 
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Freki

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killer rin said:
Was it? I must have missed it. $350 it would go down to then,
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Yes - the redditor corrected himself later by stating that he meant half the development cost was for Kinect not the bom...

If this were true and MS indeed will provide a kinectless SKU in the future it would mean that half of Xbox One's development cost were spent on an accessoire...
 
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Snowden's Secret

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Castef said:
Another Wii U game? °_°
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Cheeky fellow :D

Wii U and PS4 both have clear markets, if nothing else (Nintendo fans and everyone else, respectively). Who is XBONE aimed at? XBOTTLES? It's super (and most) expensive, has an always on camera in the age of NSA spying, only three first party franchises of note (Halo, Forza, Fable), and is shaping up to be one of the worst launches ever. The boxes probably catch on fire, too.

Stated another way, Wii U and PS4 do different things and will have different games, so there's a reason someone might pick up one or the other, or even both. Why would anyone buy an XBONE over a PS4?
 
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chubigans

y'all should be ashamed
Chobel said:
But until March/April there isn't enough time to conclude if you're performing well or not.
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I think if by April it's not neck and neck with the PS4 they'll react accordingly. They don't seem to show any signs of waiting to see about anything.
 
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Finalizer

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abadguy said:
Sorry but the audience that buys Xbox is the same one that buys Playstations. 90% of the time the same kinds of titles do well or don't do well on both consoles.
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There's no secret that none of MS' consoles have ever done well in Japan. Japanese-centric titles have demonstrably peformed better sales-wise on PS3 than 360 when they were multiplat everywhere. We're not talking CoD or Fifa here.
 
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Snowden's Secret

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Also! This is probably important!

I don't think CBoaT was saying that Microsoft moneyhatted Platinum into "just any game" because why would their be any uproar about that? It's got to be a sequel everyone wants :(

Viewtiful Joe?
Okami?
Rising 2?

:(
 
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DNaDe

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Also I don't get some of this... where was it rumored that the XB1 would release in October? Microsoft said Novemeber themselves at E3. Aren't Microsoft giving away XB1s at Gamescom?
 
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jbug617

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chubigans said:
I think if by April it's not neck and neck with the PS4 they'll react accordingly. They don't seem to show any signs of waiting to see about anything.
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It makes sense. If the console sales are not looking good. In the spring you drop the price via removing Kinect. Then you have a big game in Titanfall to help sell the console.
 
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ElTorro

I wanted to dominate the living room. Then I took an ESRAM in the knee.
Microsoft releases dis-Kinected SKU. Kinect dies.

Sony releases PS4/Camera bundle. Wins casuals and apps.

Microsoft looses faith in justice. Xbox team jumps the boat and starts cooking meth.
 
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Artex

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The best part about a potential late October release for the PS4 is the timeliness of the GTAV release. I play a new release heavily for a month before I'm ready for the next thing...then BAM. PS4 all over my face.
 
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Finalizer

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Maximilian Kolbe said:
It's not about hardware and it will be fix according to cboat
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crazy buttocks on a train said:
truthfact1+
no live strm for real easons. xbone arcitectu re stil not fuly complet. laterst verson of SDK coupl of weeks ago edropeed d performeance by 15--20% acros teg board. NOW B4 YO^USG ET MAD AT ME XBOTTLES this hapens AL THE TIEM in tconsel dvelopmetn and ist wll evetnaly be fix but nochance for erly oct orelaese or...
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So yeah.
 
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Chamber

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Chobel said:
But until March/April there isn't enough time to conclude if you're performing well or not.
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It was enough time to tell us Wii U had tanked after the initial launch/holiday rush. Not that I think X1 is in for those kind of numbers but we'll learn a lot about both consoles from January and February sales.
 
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Hyunashi

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Yay for CBOAT, great info before GC. Only thing that sticks out for me is MS potentially moneyhatting Jap developers, when will they learn?
 
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abadguy

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Snowden's Secret said:
Cheeky fellow :D

Wii U and PS4 both have clear markets, if nothing else (Nintendo fans and everyone else, respectively). Who is XBONE aimed at? XBOTTLES? It's super (and most) expensive, has an always on camera in the age of NSA spying, only three first party franchises of note (Halo, Forza, Fable), and is shaping up to be one of the worst launches ever. The boxes probably catch on fire, too.

Stated another way, Wii U and PS4 do different things and will have different games, so there's a reason someone might pick up one or the other, or even both. Why would anyone buy an XBONE over a PS4?
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Well as someone who is getting an X1 first, launch titles. PS4 isn't launching with anything i am interested in buying. Everything esle in your post is pure drivel. NSA spying? give me a break, only three franchises? Yeah if you ignore all the other announced games since E3. Not to mention hefty third party suppors, so you'll have to excuse me if i don't see it doing as badly as the WIIU.
 
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Maximilian Kolbe

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Finalizer said:
So yeah.
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Huh?

Zeitgeister said:
architecture change caused the drop, not actual specs.
(he follows with saying that this is normal, but puts an early release out of the picture)
It's quite possible they did up the clock speed, changed the architecture to accommodate for it, and caused a drop in performance on a non-adapted development environment. The expected result over time (coming weeks) would be gains beyond the initial number, obviously.
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Castef

Castef

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Chobel said:
But until March/April there isn't enough time to conclude if you're performing well or not.
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I think that most people here take for granted that Xbox One will fail and sell considerabily less than PlayStation 4.

In reality, Xbox One is starting this generation in a much better position than Xbox 360 did.

At the time Sony held LOTS of important third-party games as exclusives or timed exclusives.

Final Fantasy was basically a Sony exclusive (no, Crystal Chronicles does not count, sorry)
Metal Gear Solid too.
Kingdom Hearts too.
Namco was literally in love with Sony (Tekken as an historic exclusive of the Sony consoles)
Grand Theft Auto was a Sony timed exclusive.
Capcom was publishing lots of Sony-exclusive games.

Right now the situation is DEEPLY changed, Xbox 360 is the best selling console in the US, it managed to build its own library of games, has a very active (and loyal?) online base and, on the other hand, "PlayStation" is no longer the synonym for "videogame" in Europe.

So... why is Xbox One already deemed as a failure? Are you guys REALLY sure that the large mass of buyers care about 180° turnarounds, behind-the-curtain stories and funny animated gifs?

90% of buyers will simply buy the console if they are interested in it, regardless of whatever happened (or was about to happen) BEFORE the console arrived on the shop shelves. And this people will decide if the Xbox One will be a success or a failure. Just them, not a bunch of informated/passionate people writing on NeoGaf.

I really can't wait to see how the console will perform. I think it will be very, very interesting.
 
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Spongebob

Banned
Just home from work and saw this thread.

My thoughts:

1, #TeamCBOAT

2. Arthur Gies is a joke, nothing new.

3. PS4 launch date is amazing
 
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