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COMICS! April 2012 |OT| It's a new month? Already?!

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kswiston

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I wish comic books stopped trying to adapt the movie looks of their characters. We have 10 years of post Spider-man proof that comic book movies don't really drive audiences towards monthly comics, and these costumes invariably look silly in 5 years times when they have returned the character to his/her classic design.

Hawkeye is not the worst example of this since his movie look is basically the look he had in the Ultimates (and it is not much of a costume anyhow), but reading early 2000s X-men can be painful whenever one of the villains from the first movie shows up. Even Morrison's run was plagued by this.
 
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Teaser image, so who knows, probably some kind of crossover between Venom and Scarlet Spider(with hopefully good artwork).

Or can be another mediocre Zeb Wells/Clayton Crain thing.
 
Yeah, but nobody reads those. 616 gives them a bigger chance to get those "movie-watching new readers" that don't actually exist.

But whatever, Fraction/Aja, I'll try it out.
 
Fraction/Aja are a god-team. Shame that they aren't trying Iron Fist again, but if they can inject some entertainment into a pretty lame character, I will be happy. The last couple of Hawkeye things have been awful.
 

Tizoc

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^Hawkeye? LAME? Someone needs to watch Avengers: EMH cartoon.


My body is ready >=3

A BIG thank you to those who recommended IDW's Dungeons and Dragons comic, it's superb.

...and what's up with people hating on Final Crisis?
All it takes a re-read (or 2) and the events'll make sense. I kind of figured some of what occured during it when I read it the first time (using Morrison's reading order/list).
 
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Teaser image, so who knows, probably some kind of crossover between Venom and Scarlet Spider(with hopefully good artwork).

Or can be another mediocre Zeb Wells/Clayton Crain thing.

I would buy that. Scarlet Spider has been surprisingly entertaining, as has Remender's take on Venom.
 

kswiston

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Hawkeye is not lame. He just isn't always used that well. In the hands of the right creator, he is great. However, Bendis is not that creator.

Looking forward to the Fraction/Aja take. However, I am about 50/50 with Fraction work. Hope it is more like Iron Fist or Invincible Iron Man than it is Fear Itself or Uncanny X-Men.
 
^Hawkeye? LAME? Someone needs to watch Avengers: EMH cartoon.



My body is ready >=3

A BIG thank you to those who recommended IDW's Dungeons and Dragons comic, it's superb.

...and what's up with people hating on Final Crisis?
I mean really, how hard is it to grasp and understand this book? A re-read, using Morrison's reading order or in TPB form, will have it make sense.

Isn't the bold a contradiction? I mean you say it's not hard to grasp then you recommend people read in a specific order specified by the author...or alternatively look on a torrent website for a good reading form.

I personally didn't have problems reading Final Crisis, I just thought it sucked. Mary Marvel's emoness got on my nerves. I thought the whole anti life equation was...dumb. Honestly the best thing in the mini series was Batman. Everything else was bleh, and the ending? A Wish machine?....wow
 

Tizoc

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Isn't the bold a contradiction? I mean you say it's not hard to grasp then you recommend people read in a specific order specified by the author...or alternatively look on a torrent website for a good reading form.
Apologies I've prob. worded it wrong, I guess what I should've simply just wrote was that it'd be much easier to understand when re-read ^_^;
 
I wish comic books stopped trying to adapt the movie looks of their characters. We have 10 years of post Spider-man proof that comic book movies don't really drive audiences towards monthly comics, and these costumes invariably look silly in 5 years times when they have returned the character to his/her classic design.

Hawkeye is not the worst example of this since his movie look is basically the look he had in the Ultimates (and it is not much of a costume anyhow), but reading early 2000s X-men can be painful whenever one of the villains from the first movie shows up. Even Morrison's run was plagued by this.

only Marvel seems to do this.
 

kswiston

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only Marvel seems to do this.

Well DC doesn't have much of a film line-up. But you are incorrect. Look at the Batman franchise in 1989. They clearly adapted some of the movie visuals. Same thing with the current iteration of Batman. Batman's more armored appearance matches the films, and the Joker mysteriously started showing up with facial scarring after TDK. We will see if something similar happens with Bane in upcoming months.
 

kswiston

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Batman 1989 drove people to monthly books but strangely nothing has since.

Comics were getting a lot of press leading up to that movie, and people had less options to spend their entertainment dollars on than they do today. Also, it helped that comics were cheaper back then. Most issues were $0.75-$1.00. With inflation that would be around $1.25-$1.75 today. Comics are twice that much currently.
 
Comics were getting a lot of press leading up to that movie, and people had less options to spend their entertainment dollars on than they do today. Also, it helped that comics were cheaper back then. Most issues were $0.75-$1.00. With inflation that would be around $1.25-$1.75 today. Comics are twice that much currently.

helps that they were on newsstands back then too
 

kswiston

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All comic movies produce a small, but noticeable and temporary spike in sales of the pertinent books.

It would be interesting to see how much of that comes from new readers, and how much of that comes from the fact that those books that are related to an upcoming movie receive a push by their publishers aimed at existing comic fans.

For instance, Iron Man became a lot more important to the Marvel universe leading up to his first film, so it makes sense that Marvel readers would take a larger interest in his books.
 
Some other Marvel news that came out today:

-James McKelvie will be the new regular artist for Defenders, starting in July for issue #8. My enjoyment for the Defenders comes and goes with the artists(Dodson? Meh. Lark? Yay!), and I really like McKelvie, so hopefully the trend continues. I really love his work on X-men: Season One and Phonogram.

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-James Asmus and Clay Mann are the creative team for Gambit, starting in August. That's a good creative team, but good enough to get me buying a Gambit ongoing?

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-The Mighty Thor and Journey Into Mystery are having a pretty lengthy crossover starting in August through October, called "Everything Burns". I had figured Fraction was dropping that book since he's writing Iron Man/Hawkeye/Defenders/AvX, but I guess not!

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ElNarez

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Some other Marvel news that came out today:

-James McKelvie will be the new regular artist for Defenders, starting in July for issue #8. My enjoyment for the Defenders comes and goes with the artists(Dodson? Meh. Lark? Yay!), and I really like McKelvie, so hopefully the trend continues. I really love his work on X-men: Season One and Phonogram.

Now to be fair this is Marvel, so "regular artist" means fuck all, especially if it means getting a 3.99 book out with a modicum of regularity.
 
Now to be fair this is Marvel, so "regular artist" means fuck all, especially if it means getting a 3.99 book out with a modicum of regularity.

I wish they could have the "regular" artist draw everything for the TPBs and have fill ins for the monthlies. I would love it if digital comics had multiple variations. That way I could read an entire run of Wolverine and the X-Men with Bradshaw drawing and for those of you on the other side, you could have Bachalo. How cool would that be? Everyone could have their stories with the best artwork! Would really help out with a lot of Morrison's longer runs like Batman and New X-Men.
 

LiQuid!

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I wish they could have the "regular" artist draw everything for the TPBs and have fill ins for the monthlies. I would love it if digital comics had multiple variations. That way I could read an entire run of Wolverine and the X-Men with Bradshaw drawing and for those of you on the other side, you could have Bachalo. How cool would that be? Everyone could have their stories with the best artwork! Would really help out with a lot of Morrison's longer runs like Batman and New X-Men.

Has there ever been a case of the same comic being penciled by two totally separate artists? I'd be intrigued to see two different interpretations on the same script from two people with no knowledge of the others' work.
 
Ha, that's pretty cool, although Darkseid at the end still looks just as odd as Magneto does in X-Men #1. Why the hell would he be looking at us? The superheroes are over there, attacking you! Jim Lee wasn't one to pass up on drawing characters in pin-up poses, even if it didn't make much sense storytelling wise.

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Of course, that Magneto pose has become maybe the most iconic image of the character in his entire 50 year history, so I guess everything worked out better then expected.
 
Ha, that's pretty cool, although Darkseid at the end still looks just as odd as Magneto does in X-Men #1. Why the hell would he be looking at us? The superheroes are over there, attacking you! Jim Lee wasn't one to pass up on drawing characters in pin-up poses, even if it didn't make much sense storytelling wise.

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Of course, that Magneto pose has become maybe the most iconic image of the character in his entire 50 year history, so I guess everything worked out better then expected.

I'm guessing because all for of those had to function as individual covers too so they all had to look like covers on their own. I agree though, it does look strange, the cover with just Magneto is great though.
 
Hmm, the Bendis/Maleev Daredevil Ultimate Collections seem to be out of stock everywhere (cept v1). I hope this is just an in between printing issue. I don't feel like Marvel would stop production on a trade collection for a fairly popular title...
 

Mistouze

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Hmm, the Bendis/Maleev Daredevil Ultimate Collections seem to be out of stock everywhere (cept v1). I hope this is just an in between printing issue. I don't feel like Marvel would stop production on a trade collection for a fairly popular title...
Isn't there a Omnibus of this run? I don't know how they handle collection printing at marvel but I wouldn't be surprise that they would wait a few years to reprint stuff...
 

LiQuid!

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Guy sure does love his mutants! :3
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
C2E2 was great!
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
Did JustARandomGuy showcase the latest episode of his webseries at C2E2?

Honestly, I didn't go to any panels. I hung out in Artist Alley with a friend most of the time.
 
Clay Mann on Gambit = will buy 3 of every issue. Mann is the best artist at Marvel right now. Looks like I'll need to drop some comics to get the new Gambit and Hawkeye.
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
OK Comics gaf. I need some advice. Want to get the backstory to avengers vs. xmen.

I know what happened with the House of M and the Mutants, but am unclear ont eh deal with Hope Summers. I stopped reading around Messiah Complex and got a copy of Second Coming.

Do I need to read Second Coming:Revalations? And what other X-story lines do I need to brush up on?
 
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