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COMICS February |OT| of Curious (Black) Creators & Curious (Black) Characters!

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Anticitizen One

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FoneBone said:
Happy to see the boob window gone, but other than that, I think it's pretty lousy.
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It's a lot better than Supergirls new costume. Although the costume she's wearing in the background looks cooler. I guess she used to be Supergirl and Huntress used to be Robin on Earth 2

I was hoping they would make it more like the Captain America movie and have it be about super heroes fighting nazis but I guess thats overdone at this point.
 
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ViewtifulJC

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Splatt said:
Daredevil #9 preview

Dat art.
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Book of the week, baby

Anticitizen One said:
I found your earth-2 counterpart:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=402852

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When you apply the same coloring styles to old school artists, there's a jarring display. I remember I first really noticed this on that ASM #600 variant Romita Sr did

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You CANNOT give an artist with such old school sensibilities like John Romita Sr one of those photoshop gradients filters and call it a day. Ugly ass fucking color tones. When you're working with an old school artist like Romita Sr or Perez, either you imitate the style they are familiar with, or you spin it into something else. Otherwise you get ugly looking mishmash of covers like this and that Perez thing.
 
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Tizoc

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BenjaminBirdie said:
Really loving the Hellboy Universe these days. Always gorgeous, always consistent in tone and it has this really weird groundedness that I love. Like a long distance relationship? Over Skype and stuff? In a monster comic? How cool is that?!?
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I need to catch up with Hellboy and BPRD though =P
...and speaking of Dark Horse and catching up: Usagi Yojimbo @_@
 
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tm24

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Splatt said:
Daredevil #9 preview

Dat art.
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I want Marvel to official acknowledge that DD and Spidey have the superpower to be neck deep in women. It honestly might be my favorite thing about the two since it leads to great things for the most part. Also, it's freaking hilarious

Also, a report from the new shop that opened up near me. Apparently, the dude is loaded as fuck and is opening a shop just because he can. Shop so far carries the Big 2 and the hit Image books but he'll getting a bigger selection as he settles down. Pretty nice guy for the most part. Wants to hold a UMvC3 tourney that im confident ill win even though im a total scrub. Told him i'll be back for the next solicits that im moving from my old shop to his in about 2 months.
 
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Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
tm24 said:
I want Marvel to official acknowledge that DD and Spidey have the superpower to be neck deep in women. It honestly might be my favorite thing about the two since it leads to great things for the most part. Also, it's freaking hilarious
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they do have that power. its just that the world hates them, and happiness isnt good for the world if men by the name of matt murdock and peter parker are happy.
 
MisterHero

MisterHero

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Big Gorillas?!?

But Superman
killed Titano
:(

Krypto doesn't even look like a dog anymore, so I doubt it will reflect on main continuity
 
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LuCkymoON

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Mario Gully

Creator of The Ant
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The main character Hannah Washington is biracial.
Wikipedia said:
Ant possesses the typical enhanced speed and strength of many bug-based superheroes, but in addition she has antennae which provide her with superhuman-level weapons and senses. One of the more interesting aspects of the character is her exoskeleton, which appears to be regenerated by use of her blood-sugar. When her armor wears down, it breaks off rather quickly and she must recharge her blood-sugar in order to regenerate it. She seems to use some kind of spray-can with an ant symbol to do this.

The Ant comic was originally published by the small independent company Arcana Studio in March 2004. The creator and artist, Mario Gully, has stated that the concept of Ant was created while he was incarcerated in 1996 for attempted armed robbery. Gully says that one day he was looking through a barred cell window and a tiny ant crawled in from the outside. He later vowed to change his life and make something out of himself. He then created Ant.
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What I loved most about this comic book was the very mature setting; there was often displays of drug abuse, psychological child abuse, and some nudity. Unfortunately the comic suffered from a shaky publication history and low sales.
 
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Riptwo

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Finally got to check out Brian Wood and Becky Cloonan's Conan title. I loved it so far, but goddamn did it seem short. I just hope this team sticks around on the title for awhile.
 
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Anticitizen One

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Gar is the red furry dude on the right. I believe the girl with the half blonde shaved head/half white hair is rebooted Terra.

Ravagers writer Howard Mackie confirmed to Newsarama that the new team — revealed on the first issue's cover — will include Caitlin Fairchild, a brother and sister named Thunder and Lightning, the "monstrous" Ridge, a red Beast Boy and a new version of Terra
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krypt0nian

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I've been in love with the Superboy-Teen Titans corner of the DCU, and you add Legion goodness?

Thank you! Here's hoping we get more Gen13 presence!
 
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Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
Anticitizen One said:
Gar is the red furry dude on the right. I believe the girl with the half blonde shaved head/half white hair is rebooted Terra.
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red gar? new terra?

double nope. nuDC is super failing to impress with this reboot. but i guess since people are buying this, more wacky changes will happen.
 
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kame-sennin

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DC Retailer Survey results: older, male, middle-class, avid

How many statistics can one news day handle? DC has just released results from their Retailer Survey which they launched in conjunction with the New 52. As we noted at the time, the survey was aimed at gauging interest in each and every New 52 title, as well as general readership demographics. As such, it represents the most comprehensive reader survey a comics company has made in some time. While it’s very New 52-centric, it does reveal a lot. While DC has released their own bullet points, which we’ve shown below, ICv2 has more info and an interview with John Rood. You’ll want to head over there and digest the whole thing. But here’s the broad picture:

• The launch of DC COMICS-THE NEW 52 galvanized the traditional fan base for superhero comic books: male readers, who were already—or have at one time been—comic book fans.

• The survey results are not a reflection of all comic book readers or the broader audience for graphic novels. This was a survey of consumers who specifically purchased DC COMICS-THE NEW 52 comic books, either in print or digital format.

• DC COMICS: THE NEW 52 appealed mainly to avid fans and lapsed readers. More than 70% of those surveyed categorized themselves as avid fans who visit the comic book store every week. More than a quarter of in-store consumers were lapsed readers. The survey indicates that 5% of those polled identified themselves as first-time, new readers.

• More than 50% of DC COMICS-THE NEW 52 readers were between the ages of 13 and 34. And more than 50% of in-store DC COMICS-THE NEW 52 consumers had an annual income of $60K or less. The data supports and arguably validates our philosophy of holding the line at $2.99 which DCE is committed to maintaining.

• The majority of titles generated strong interest and likely reader retention.

• Avid Fans purchased up to 20 titles out of the 52 titles.

• Digital: of dual mode readers, digital is far from replacing print.

• Impulse buys: Up to four-in-ten respondents reported that a NEW 52 title they were interested in (at a physical store location) was out of stock. Nearly two-thirds made a spontaneous purchase.


Not included in DC’s breakdown: 93% of the respondents were male.

ICv2 has much more on the print-vs-digital metrics, backing up Rood’s contention that digital is still “additive”:

Interestingly the survey did indicate that 57% of the digital readers did read print comics, while just 16% of the print readers had purchased or read digital comics. Also of interest are the top reasons that readers preferred one format or the other. Digital readers preferred reading comics digitally because they provided immediate access (which could mean that many of these readers don’t have access to a convenient comic shop), and they also like the convenience and easy storage and portability of digital comics. Print readers listed collectibility as the primary reason they bought physical copies, but they also expressed a dislike of reading comics onscreen. Rood told ICv2 that the redemption of the digital codes in DC’s digital combo packs has been “astonishingly low,” a fact he attributed to the purchasers of those books being primarily interested in collecting a different edition of the material they like.


One other takeaway: with 25 of New 52 readers under 18 and 7% female, you can see why a new kid-focused Supergirl title isn’t much of a priority for DC. They’re sticking with their base, and concentrating on that 25% of lapsed readers. As much as the comics commentator class might not like this, it does make a lot of business sense. Conversely, you could argue that not making any material for outside the base might contribute to the low readership in the younger and female audiences.

UPDATE: Here’s the age breakdown provided by ICv2:
13-17 — 1%-2%

18-24 — 14%-22%

25-34 — 37%-42%

35-44 — 27%-35%

45-54 — 7%-11%

55+ — 2%

Percentage variables are between the various survey sources.

Then there’s that 5% new reader figure. Is that really low, really high or just right? We’re not entirely certain. Neither the initial breakdown or ICv2’s figure give any idea of how new reader percentages breakdown from the three areas of the survey: digital, in-store and online. The breakdown of respondents shows a mere 167 responses from in-store, 5,336 from online and 626 from digital customers via comiXology and DC’s own store.

Lots of grist for the mill. Discuss!
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http://www.comicsbeat.com/2012/02/10/dc-retailer-survey-results-older-male-middle-class-avid/
 
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Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
wait, so, there isnt a drastic change in their fanbase after the reboot? color me suprised on that one.
 
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krypt0nian

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The lapsed (25%)/new readers(5%) along with the sales boost means it was a decent success.

Even DC didn't think it was going to do +50-100% numbers, so not sure why this would be looked up as a negative.
 
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Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
more damn commercial time would have helped im sure. and hopefully they'll advertise during dc nation as well.
 
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Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
krypt0nian said:
Now that they've re-energized and fortified their base with new readers, it would be nice if they delved back into kids/girls books.
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hopefully, they'll learn from marvels success with girls books and publishes more mary jane loves spider man, and no fucking "trouble"
 
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BenjaminBirdie

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Anticitizen One said:
do those statistics mean this was all a big flop and we're going back to old DC next year? (Followed by DC going out of business the year after)
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If you look at the numbers, the bump is gone and we're back to the industry size that it's been at for about a decade (a ceiling of about 150k). It hadn't died then so it probably won't die now.

Comics as a medium, it's clear now, will never grow substantially. But it hasn't for a decade and that hadn't killed it. So I think it will be okay. Unfortunately it means companies like Marvel will have to keep pushing out two $4 issues of big sellers out a month to stay afloat. I think there's about, safely, 30 years more of people who are willing to contribute weekly to that 150k before we all die out, so I'm not too worried. But once we're gone, I can safely say, so are comics. The January sales numbers make that abundantly clear.

The whole No More Mutants thing makes a lot more sense now. It's a powerful metaphor for the mainstream comics readership size.
 
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FoneBone

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BenjaminBirdie said:
If you look at the numbers, the bump is gone and we're back to the industry size that it's been at for about a decade (a ceiling of about 150k). It hadn't died then so it probably won't die now.

Comics as a medium, it's clear now, will never grow substantially. But it hasn't for a decade and that hadn't killed it. So I think it will be okay. Unfortunately it means companies like Marvel will have to keep pushing out two $4 issues of big sellers out a month to stay afloat. I think there's about, safely, 30 years more of people who are willing to contribute weekly to that 150k before we all die out, so I'm not too worried. But once we're gone, I can safely say, so are comics. The January sales numbers make that abundantly clear.
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I may be misunderstanding where you expect comics to be in 10-20 years, but this reads as both overly pessimistic about the medium as a whole, and wildly overoptimistic about the sustainability of the current business model.
 
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jetpacks was yes

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Hey comic-gaf:

I'm moving to NYC and trying to get rid of stuff/get some monies, and I have a whole bunch of comics that I want to sell. I tried craigslist, no luck. Same for local comics shops. I have no ebay seller credit, so I don't know if it'll sell well there. What would be the best way to sell a bunch of comics?
 
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krypt0nian

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Aw man, the epilogue in Severed honestly just gave me a shiver up my spine.

Damn you, Snyder.

Definitely adding this inevitable collection to my non-comics reader list of suggestions.
 
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fredrancour

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I'd like to see the big comic companies running webcomics to promote their brands. Webcomics are popular with people that would never walk into a comic book shop. I have no idea if this would promote popularity, but it'd be interesting to see the results. I feel like a lot of my friends with tangential interest would start reading them and eventually buy some stuff.
 
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BenjaminBirdie

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Parallax said:
youre peering too hard into the looking glass friend.
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It makes total sense, man. The X-Men have always been a metaphor for the kind of trod upon misfits who make up comics readers. In the fifties, that sense of "misfitry" was everywhere and comics were booming. Fast forward to 2004, it's abundantly clear that the userbase for mainstream comics has evaporated. The dream that Grant Morrison personified in New X-Men, that comics could be cool and pop and hip enough to make "everyone" want to be a mutant, was dead and strangled. Thus the "mutants" were reduced to a small number, and they had to be protected at all costs. And then we get event after event, not unlike Scott Summers' military mentality. The base of "mutants" currently alive had to be catered to and sustained no matter what. They couldn't let them rest for even a second.

I don't think I'm peering hard enough, "friend".
 
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kame-sennin

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Anticitizen One said:
do those statistics mean this was all a big flop and we're going back to old DC next year? (Followed by DC going out of business the year after)
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Sales went up, and even though they've fallen back to normal levels, that can't be considered a flop. DCnu was a big event and it got a big sales bump. Whether it changed the dynamics of DC's audience is a separate issue.

Parallax said:
more damn commercial time would have helped im sure. and hopefully they'll advertise during dc nation as well.
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Only marginally. The average non-comics reader wouldn't understand the difference between pre-DCnu comics and post DCnu comics. The art and storytelling are largely the same. The biggest changes were in the continuity - but new readers weren't reading comics before, so they wouldn't know what changes had been made.
 
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