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COMICS! |OT| April 2013. Trapped in humorless world, Prankster decides to end it all.

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LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Got an invite from Mark Andrew Smith to "Like" the Gladstone's School for World Conquerors page -- at the email address I used for the intial Sullivan's Sluggers Kickstarter, not at my actual Facebook email.

Dude is shameless.

Dude started following me on google plus. I don't use google plus (does anyone? hah), but it was connected to my kickstarter email I used. I wouldn't be shocked if I got that invite as well :\
 

tim1138

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Very few of the covers have actually been shocking, and one that could have been was ruined by advance solicits disproving it (
White Lantern Simon Baz
on Green Lantern New Guardians).
 

arkon

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I'm not too interested in the new image titles for July, but i am getting the Nowhere Men vol 1 tpb. :O

Read issue 1 last night. Very promising scifi series. Seems tailored to my tastes.

I was going to buy the single issues but I think I'll go with the TPB instead. 6 issues for $9.99 ? That's a steal.
 

Acid08

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Read issue 1 last night. Very promising scifi series. Seems tailored to my tastes.

I was going to buy the single issues but I think I'll go with the TPB instead. 6 issues for $9.99 ? That's a steal.
Yeah, definitely trade waiting it.
 

tim1138

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All Star Western WTF
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This Marvel #1 promotion is like the best thing ever for me. I'm into owning comics mostly for the art, so I really don't own or collect too many, I just pick up cheap back issues (usually never full series, just random issues) for specific artists that I like. So having a big old hodgepodge of 700 different comics from across a range of eras with lots of different artists is perfect for me.

Oddly enough it said I had like 723 issues at checkout, but only like 620 some are in my library. No complaints as this was a totally awesome promotion, but I kinda wonder what ones got lost in the transfer.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
Lol. Azz don't give a fuck about the "ultimate power couple." Hold dat shit, Johns.

Shit, I'm glad the Superman/Wonder Woman shit is ending. It did nothing for any of the books they were in except Justice League, talk about a worthless relationship.
 

Vyer

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I certainly love me some JOCK. Snyder describing him on the podcast was hilarious

link is here btw if anyone wants to give it a listen: http://smodcast.com/episodes/scott-snyder-of-cowls-and-owls/

it's about when Death of the Family was starting so he just mostly talks about Court of Owls and how he got to work on Batman and how he basically shat his pants when he found out he'd be relaunching it with new 52. Pretty good listen.

I don't like Smith's work much these days, but his Batman podcast is fucking great. Especially for how it covers comics and animation. Has some very interesting guests.
 

ReiGun

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Shit, I'm glad the Superman/Wonder Woman shit is ending. It did nothing for any of the books they were in except Justice League, talk about a worthless relationship.
Ending? Nah man. Willing to bet this leads to the ultimate power love triangle!

Get hype.
 
I wish it would, it's been fucking pointless.
Sadly though, it's not.

My guess -- and, I'll admit, it's the guess of a man who doesn't read the books involved -- but my guess is that Azzarello has a specific, plot-related endgame for the Orion/Diana situation in mind, and that any romantic developments have a finite limit as a result. The Superman writers (which consist of... Lobdell, now?) are aware of this, yet are eager to play recent revealings up as the start of a love triangle, because as you said it's cheap drama and because the Super books really don't have anything else going on. Meanwhile, over in Justice League Johns has his own endgame in mind with the whole "this romance could change the DCU forever!" thing they've been pushing, and I'm willing to bet those plans don't factor in a triangle with Orion -- if anything, they involve one with Steve Trevor. And I say that because Johns seems to have made it his mission to transform Steve Trevor into an action hero and a major player in the New52, thus making him a "worthy" suitor of Wonder Woman.

So my take is that Orion/Diana is very short-term, Clark/Diana is too "important" to future events to go away until its planned end, and that Steve/Diana is what Johns is ultimately pushing towards.

...

As an unabashed Bruce/Diana fan this has all been a little hard to watch, I'll admit. But at the same time, I'm kind of glad he's been removed from the situation by the reboot because it'd only make a clusterf*cked situation that much worse. AND, it'd only ruin any hopes I have left of far-future developments along that front.
 

ghostmind

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This week's Avengers Assemble issue has more background story for the Ultron event than the core series has managed so far in what, 5 issues?
 
Nice write-up Spike.

I'm gonna go console myself with Bats/WW fanfic on the train ride home as it makes far more sense to me than any of the other pairings going on in new52.

And yes, I'm glad he's away from this situation...unless they somehow inadvertently drag him into it. Then I will probably swear off DC for a while.
 

Owzers

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I'm not surprised that the superman/wonder woman relationship isn't very interesting since I don't like Johns' Justice League overall either.
 
Nice write-up Spike.

I'm gonna go console myself with Bats/WW fanfic on the train ride home as it makes far more sense to me than any of the other pairings going on in new52..

Hyperbole much? As if Superman and Wonder Woman have never been paired up before. What other pairings in the "new 52" upset your sensibilities?
 

tim1138

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Hyperbole much? As if Superman and Wonder Woman have never been paired up before. What other pairings in the "new 52" upset your sensibilities?

Well you know, that Hal Jordan and Carol Ferris romance is completely nonsensical, same as Aquaman and Mera. Oh wait...
The only other pair I can think of that's different is that Barry Allen is with Patty Spivot and not Iris West.
 
Hyperbole much? As if Superman and Wonder Woman have never been paired up before. What other pairings in the "new 52" upset your sensibilities?

Of course I'm kidding around (though I really do prefer Bruce/Diana). But the thing about new 52's pairings is that they don't really catch my interest. I do prefer most of the pre-reboot pairings, though I never really cared for Bruce/Selina in any capacity. Same goes for Clark/Diana really, they just don't have that romantic spark at all in my eyes.
 

MartyStu

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So, if I want to read some stuff about Cassandra Cain, which books/arc should I be checking out. I want to see what it is about the character that inspires such fervor.
 
So, if I want to read some stuff about Cassandra Cain, which books/arc should I be checking out. I want to see what it is about the character that inspires such fervor.
I'd have to say you should probably start with 'No Man's Land', specifically the "Mark of Cain" story which was her introduction, and then follow her ongoing series and stuff like 'Officer Down' and the 'Bruce Wayne: Murderer/Fugitive' saga. Beyond that it's appearances here and there.
 
How is their shitty relationship compelling at fucking all in the new 52?

Well, first of all, why do you feel their relationship is "shitty?" It's a pairing that has been explored a few times before and in those books I didn't find them "shitty", personally. The idea that two of the strongest people in their world, finding a kinship is hardly "shitty". And what would you prefer exactly? Something completely out of left field?

And how does that relate to,
?
 

Acid08

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Well, first of all, why do you feel their relationship is "shitty?" It's a pairing that has been explored a few times before and in those books I didn't find them "shitty", personally. The idea that two of the strongest people in their world, finding a kinship is hardly "shitty". And what would you prefer exactly? Something completely out of left field?

And how does that relate to, ?
Um mostly because absolutely nothing interesting is coming from it. If good stories were being told around it then I wouldn't have any kind of problem with the pairing. You're right it does make sense that they would find kinship with each other but that's what not what I'm saying is shitty about it. Its shitty because lolDC isn't doing anything interesting with them. Even the way they got together felt predictable and boring.

It doesn't have a purpose to exist right now. It mostly feels like they did it just so they could have the cover with them kissing to sell a couple more copies of the subpar JL.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
Well, first of all, why do you feel their relationship is "shitty?" It's a pairing that has been explored a few times before and in those books I didn't find them "shitty", personally. The idea that two of the strongest people in their world, finding a kinship is hardly "shitty". And what would you prefer exactly? Something completely out of left field?

And how does that relate to, ?

Honestly, there's no interesting story coming from it. They're just sort of dating. There is no big story, or even cute little "oh look at us we're on a date" type things happening (outside of the valentines day special). Maybe it will lead to something compelling, but I feel like none of the writers involved are even on the same page when it comes to this. Gimme a reason to care about it, that's all I want.
 
Well, first of all, why do you feel their relationship is "shitty?" It's a pairing that has been explored a few times before and in those books I didn't find them "shitty", personally. The idea that two of the strongest people in their world, finding a kinship is hardly "shitty". And what would you prefer exactly? Something completely out of left field?

To me, the pairing is very safe in that the pairing between the world's strongest man and the world's strongest woman - neither of which are born of Earth and have been looking for their humanity.

Because both are constantly trying to be "human", it's their exploration into what it means to be human is far more compelling than "hey, since we're so much alike, let's make out", which seems to be what DC is currently pushing. :/

Though traditional, Lois compliments Clark's struggle between his identity as Superman and his life as Clark Kent. She herself is very human in desiring Superman but overlooking the simple Clark which makes him question how he can exist as both. I liked that together, they both discovered what makes Clark really Clark and that Superman is also Clark.

Diana, on the other hand, was raised by a Matriarchal society. So of course, she wants to find out if the world is all that it's cracked up to be. If anything, Bruce is everything that she's been taught to avoid and yet, he's also everything that her people valued in their heroes. So I liked how they would needle at each other but it's always a learning experience. Also, he usually went with the direct approach to make her see things while avoiding treating her like glass. Steve, though not as brash as Bruce (or really as callow at times), was also good for her too in that he respected her as a whole.

Clark and Diana always have more of the sibling-vibe because they really relate to one another's struggles to be "human". So that's why I never saw anything romantic between them in all of their history. Despite the initial romance, they both realized that they were closer to being siblings than romantic partners.
 
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