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COMICS! |OT| April 2013. Trapped in humorless world, Prankster decides to end it all.

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8bit

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X-Men Legacy #9, out today.

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Age of Ultron
Disappointed to see Sue written as complacent to this nonsense. Also, isn't the unexpected end already known to be Angela from Spawn or was that an April Fool?
 
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Owzers

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It's fun reading age of ultron buyer's thoughts, though i avoid the spoilers just incase it turns out good in the end and worth reading the trade, because i'm very curious about it but don't want to spend the money at the moment since AvX was so disappointing. Bendis + 10 issues + triple shipping. There is no way Bendis has ten issues of content worth telling in this story, there was never a chance of this.

Young Avengers #3 had some fun parts to it but i've soured a little after liking #2 a lot. I don't like the main premise of this story.
 
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frye

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Rollo Tomasi said:
Marvelman's possible emergence into the 616 universe?
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Yeah, but who gives a fuuuuuuuuck. Just bring back Sentry or something - it's not like Marvelman is a particularly interesting character in and of himself. People just care about reprinting the Moore/Gaiman comics.
 
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slightconfuse

Banned
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL DC company is a fucking mess
Editorial Note: With regret, CBR News has to inform our readers today that there will no longer be a "B&B" column on the site after only four short months.

When CBR proposed the idea of a regular column with DC's executive staff, our stated intent was for the feature to be a place to connect the decision makers at the publisher with the wider comics community. Aside from product and story information, discussing the industry news and debates of the day was something we always planned to focus on both in the regular interviews with Harras and Chase and the monthly fan Q&A. However, the DC team has made it clear to CBR that discussing some of the more controversial debates surrounding the company and the comics community is not something they feel comfortable doing in this format, and ultimately they decided to no longer participate in this feature.

Specifically, Harras and Chase declined to comment on questions about DC exclusive talent Jerry Ordway in regards to his statements about his work with the publisher. (Though it should be noted that DC Co-Publisher Jim Lee did discuss the matter in a recent CBR TV interview)
After ensuing discussions on the matter, CBR regrets that DC has decided not to continue what we consider a valuable discussion for readers, retailers and creators. We will however continue to cover the company's comics, editorial moves and broader impact on comics to the best of our ability – including future interviews with DC executives and editorial staff as they are willing and available.
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frye

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Rafa=FedKilla said:
We still got Axel In Charge brah. And fuck Bobbie Chase for teasing new Young Justice books last month and nothing since. Fucking cunt.
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Oh, I don't really read that one (maybe for some art stuff occasionally). Really boring tbh and Axel is just straight up better at PR than Harras and Chase are. Those cats really didn't know what they were doing.
 
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BenjaminBirdie

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frye said:
Oh, I don't really read that one (maybe for some art stuff occasionally). Really boring tbh and Axel is just straight up better at PR than Harras and Chase are. Those cats really didn't know what they were doing.
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I read AIC for the art previews. There's never any real scoopage.
 
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frye

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holy shit, there is hope

Tekkaman Blade is back again and asks: "Is there any remote chance that 'All-Star Batman and Robin' by Frank Miller and Jim Lee will ever resume and wrap up its awesome story? Back in 2010 at WonderCon there was an announcement that it would be re-titled 'Dark Knight: Boy Wonder' and contain 6 issues scheduled for 2011."

Harras: I don't want to speak for Jim; I know right now he's focused on "Superman Unchained." I do know, though, that he does want to get to this other story. I think at some point we will see it, but right now his focus is on "Superman Unchained."
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Don't let me down again, Jim
 
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BenjaminBirdie

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BJK said:
AOU 6 - Is it me, or is this story being told in the most pedestrian way possible?
Wolverine goes back to the exact moment Pym thinks about making an AI...how convenient. And he kills Pym, because that's his solution to everything now...and because Pym largely gives up. Put something unexpected in here: have Pym shrink Wolvie to the size of a mosquito while he talks things out with Sue, don't make Sue into a wishy-washy non-presence, something!
Last month, I was guessing Sentry would end up f-ing things up...even that would have been better than this.
My last hope for something interesting fell away when Sue was confirmed to not be in the future. (Was hoping Sue went with Wolvie after the future attack, leaving the story to fill that explanation in later.)

Now we wait for the alt-present storyline to play out until the story hits the reset button?
Is there anything worth hoping for from the story at this point?
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I mean, from jump street you know none of this story matters and it's all going to be retconned. That, I think, is actually the whole point and core of the story. The act of retconning all this. So it's really just been all setup so far. Until they "solve" it and we see the "new world" that ends up being created (probably just a parallel universe anyway) this is all just a What If story.

Luke Cage laffs aside, it's been a pretty enjoyable one. I don't know what else anyone was expecting when like 85% of the MU was dead as of page 1 lol
 
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ElNarez

Banned
frye said:
Legit torn up about this one. Gonna pour one out for the best comics shilling column there ever was.

Peace.
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There is always hope, as long as shathley Q can still baffle with grandiose aplomb over at PopMatters. THE SHILLING SHALL NEVER CEASE.

But holy shit.

8bit said:
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X-Men Legacy #9, out today.
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Hands down the best book of the week.
The fact that this seemingly innocuous wink actually gets a fucking huge thematically appropriate emotional payoff is FUCKING AMAZING.
 
Jedeye Sniv

Jedeye Sniv

Banned
Yofaycesux said:
Hopefully this isn't taboo but I'm buying them off Fearless readers online, so I can go back as far as I need to really. I'm specifically looking for back issues, so any of the older comics are possible.
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hmmm, ok that's a bit more of an interesting question actually. I depends what you're after from your Batman I guess since there have been a million runs with lots of different styles. TBH I say this a lot but the Grant Morrison run is my favourite ever and I've been reading Batman pretty much my whole life. It starts with Batman #655 and goes for a while (7 years and counting lol).

That said, there's also been some neat stuff in the cracks that nobody really talks about. There are the big action-movie arcs that I cut my teeth on back in the 90s - the Knightfall saga, Contagion (where Gotham gets ebola, it's actually really cool), No Man's Land (a year-long arc across every title where gotham is cut off from America). Following No Man's Land, Greg Rucka had a brilliant run on Detective Comics from #742 that laid the groundwork for much of his work (Gotham Central, 52, Batwoman) later on.

Actually, I'd go out on a limb and say that Chuck Dixon's work, from Knightfall right up to the start of No Man's Land is one of the great unsung accomplishments of 90s comics. Get this - you get Knightfall where he creates Bane, and he follows it up with the best issues of Knightquest where he writes the Joker vs an insane Batman in an armour suit (with great art by Graham Nolan). Then not only lauches a really good teen-book with Robin but also does the best bits of Knightsend, and THEN follows it up with a story nobody talks about called Prodigal where Dick Grayson is Batman with Tim Drake as Robin for 11 issues. It didn't get collected for years and it's completely unsung and it's really good comics. And then he goes to Detective Comics from #683 for three years and writes some of the best pure Batman stories out there. No gimmicks, just great Batman and Robin stories with great art.

ha, I been reading Batman too long :p

There was a title called Legends of the Dark Knight in the 90s that was also FANTASTIC, seriously looking at the roster of teams for the early years of that book is like a who's who of awesome comics. Best stories (oh shit this post is going long...):

Shaman (1-5)
By Dennis O'Neil, Ed Hannigan, and John Beatty

Gothic (6-10)
By Grant Morrison and Klaus Janson

Venom (16-20)
By Dennis O'Neil, Russell Braun, Trevor Von Eeden, and José Luis García-López

Faces (28-30)
By Matt Wagner

Blades (32-34)
By James Robinson and Tim Sale

Legend of the Dark Mite (38)
By Alan Grant and Kevin O'Neill

Hothouse (42-43)
By John Francis Moore and P. Craig Russell

Terminus (64)
By Jamie Delano, Chris Bachalo, and Mark Pennington

Favorite Things (79)
By Mark Millar, Steve Yeowell, and Dick Giordano

Infected (83-84)
By Warren Ellis and John McCrea

Conspiracy (86-88)
By Doug Moench, J.H. Williams III, and Mick Gray

Freakout (91-93)
By Garth Ennis and Will Simpson

Dirty
By Dan Abnett, Andy Lanning, and Anthony Williams ((this one is amazing))

Snow (192-196)
By J.H. Williams III, Dan Curtis Johnson, and Seth Fisher ((SETH FISHER 4 LYFE))

OK that's enough Batman, back to your regularly scheduled X-Men posts :p
 
Jedeye Sniv

Jedeye Sniv

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BenjaminBirdie said:
I mean, from jump street you know none of this story matters and it's all going to be retconned. That, I think, is actually the whole point and core of the story. The act of retconning all this. So it's really just been all setup so far. Until they "solve" it and we see the "new world" that ends up being created (probably just a parallel universe anyway) this is all just a What If story.

Luke Cage laffs aside, it's been a pretty enjoyable one. I don't know what else anyone was expecting when like 85% of the MU was dead as of page 1 lol
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I understand your enthusiasm and it's not a terrible story so far, but it is pretty dry. Imagine - it's comics, you can do ANYTHING. And it's an alternate universe where everything is fucked, so you can do ANYTHING. And so far we've had a lot of talking. I've not read #6 yet but it's been a bit of a damp squib so far. We've seen the 'cowering sewerheroes' thing a million times, I wish there's been a more interesting way to tackle the story.
 
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Mafro

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Jedeye Sniv said:
I understand your enthusiasm and it's not a terrible story so far, but it is pretty dry. Imagine - it's comics, you can do ANYTHING. And it's an alternate universe where everything is fucked, so you can do ANYTHING. And so far we've had a lot of talking. I've not read #6 yet but it's been a bit of a damp squib so far. We've seen the 'cowering sewerheroes' thing a million times, I wish there's been a more interesting way to tackle the story.
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It's been explicitly said many times that it's not an alternate universe and is in current continuity. I don't know how people keep making this mistake, especially with the tie-ins. Most of the confusion seems to come from the fact it was delayed due to AvX and has essentially been shoehorned into current storylines, I guess.
 
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ViewtifulJC

Banned
why do you guys keep buying Bendis books with bad characterzations, $4 price tags, and where nothing happens until the last issue of the decompressed story arc year after year

Is it the art? It's the art, right? He gets a lot of good artists
 
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Owzers

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ViewtifulJC said:
why do you guys keep buying Bendis books with bad characterzations, $4 price tags, and where nothing happens until the last issue of the decompressed story arc year after year

Is it the art? It's the art, right? He gets a lot of good artists
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I bought AvX for the art and the hype/seeing what happens for myself even though i'm a month behind everyone due to dcbs shipping. It's not fun to read ~10 marvel books or so but skip out on the events that bind the universe while at the same time it's frustrating when the events are so bad. At least if i buy the print issues they tend to sell after the event is over, even if it's at a loss. I think I got about $20 for AvX 1-12 and i got to keep the digital codes for art/novelty. Skipped Ultron since i don't feel the need to read it to keep up with my other books and it looked bad.
 
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Splatt

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Age of Ultron is so bad that it's so good.

Cap getting his head chopped off made me chuckle. Brilliant plan master strategist, go into the future where it's 1000x worse. Dumbass.
 
Jedeye Sniv

Jedeye Sniv

Banned
Mafro said:
It's been explicitly said many times that it's not an alternate universe and is in current continuity. I don't know how people keep making this mistake, especially with the tie-ins. Most of the confusion seems to come from the fact it was delayed due to AvX and has essentially been shoehorned into current storylines, I guess.
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Well it's an alternate universe in that the one in AoU where everyone is dead is not going to be the status quo, so anyone can die, so you can do what you like with them. All of this will get fixed somehow and everything will go back to normal eventually, even if a couple of BIG THINGS change. The books I'm reading aren't suddenly going to stop.
 
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sazabirules

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I just finished Scalped. What a wonderful series. I'm a little confused about part of the ending because it was hard to tell what was reality.
 
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Rastafarian42

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ViewtifulJC said:
why do you guys keep buying Bendis books with bad characterzations, $4 price tags, and where nothing happens until the last issue of the decompressed story arc year after year

Is it the art? It's the art, right? He gets a lot of good artists
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Immomen, Irving, Pichelli, Bachalo, McNiven, Marquez ... that's some A+++ art right there mayne. Plus I love me some All New X-men.
 
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Spike Spiegel

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Not a big week but I managed to snag a few goodies nonetheless.

Marvel Comics
Captain America #6
Captain Marvel #12
Daredevil #25
X-Factor #254

Dark Horse Comics
Conan the Barbarian #15

Other Publishers
The Shadow Year One #2 (Dynamite)
 
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BenjaminBirdie

Banned
I can't even stand up.

The Marshal Law book has Marshal Law Takes Manhattan, where he goes into an insane asylum filled with basically the Marvel Universe and murders everyone.

I have it in my hands in an Oversized Hardcover.

I may weep openly.
 
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Owzers

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BenjaminBirdie said:
I can't even stand up.

The Marshal Law book has Marshal Law Takes Manhattan, where he goes into an insane asylum filled with basically the Marvel Universe and murders everyone.

I have it in my hands in an Oversized Hardcover.

I may weep openly.
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is it good good or Birdie nostalgia good? DCBS has it for half off still, i know nothing about it other than it sounding neat, but i'm leery of old material.
 
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Wool

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Spike Spiegel said:
Not a big week but I managed to snag a few goodies nonetheless.

Marvel Comics
Captain America #6
Captain Marvel #12
Daredevil #25
X-Factor #254

Dark Horse Comics
Conan the Barbarian #15

Other Publishers
The Shadow Year One #2 (Dynamite)
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Is Conan the Barbarian good?
 
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Spike Spiegel

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Wool said:
Is Conan the Barbarian good?
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The current series is very up and down for me. I like that Wood is exploring uncharted territory with regards to the relationship between Conan and Belit; it is undeniably the centerpiece of his entire run. It's a very complex love they share, and even though having read the novels I know how it ends, I'm enjoying the romance immensely. I think Wood does an excellent job illustrating exactly how someone like Conan could fall madly in love with someone like Belit, and how that love is changing them both in unexpected ways. That said, some story arcs certainly have been better than others, and there have been lulls where my interest waned to the point of considering going to trades, only for me to get pulled in again and reconsider. Those lulls aren't being helped by the artwork, either; each arc has featured a different artist, and their styles have varied so wildly that it only contributes to the feeling of inconsistency.
 
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ViewtifulJC

Banned
sillymonkey321 said:
is it good good or Birdie nostalgia good? DCBS has it for half off still, i know nothing about it other than it sounding neat, but i'm leery of old material.
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There are two kinds of reactions to reading Marshall Law:

1. "OMG...This. Is. Brilliant. I feel better about my life having now read this comic. Pat Mills' misanthropic satirical art style gets me, he's a fuckin' genius. Wow."

2. "...WTF is this shit?"

Half the fun is finding out which side you fall on!
 
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Nudull

Banned
Just found Runaways vol. 1 and Joss Whedon's Fray at a library. Had no idea that BKV wrote/co-created the former,so this should be a pretty good read.
 
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Freezasaurus

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ViewtifulJC said:
There are two kinds of reactions to reading Marshall Law:

1. "OMG...This. Is. Brilliant. I feel better about my life having now read this comic. Pat Mills' misanthropic satirical art style gets me, he's a fuckin' genius. Wow."

2. "...WTF is this shit?"

Half the fun is finding out which side you fall on!
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So.... you're saying it's like almost everything Grant Morrison has ever written.
 
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Raxus

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I got all the #1 issues during the marvel event. Now I just need to filter through them. I have read 3 so far. Black Panther was ok and I loved a vs x babies and Hawkeye. What else should I read? Should I look into other series further?

I am probably going to spend some money to read Hawkeye and The Thanos Imperative this summer.
 
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Spike Spiegel

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slightconfuse said:
Any one read He-man

wasn't expecting
She-Ra
to be the villian. cool twist and excited for more
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Not reading it, but wasn't Adora (aka She-Ra) kidnapped by Hordak as an infant and raised as his evil daughter or something? Pretty sure that was her origin in the cartoon, and Adam had to save his long-lost sister by giving her a sword.
 
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Freezasaurus

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ghostmind said:
Yes I know what happened then, but
Thanos and Star-Lord are back but apparently Rich is dead/in the Cancerverse/something else? They can't leave that unresolved for much longer.
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They'll probably get to it. There's going to be a big uptake in cosmic Marvel stuff now that a Guardians movie is on the horizon.
 
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