I don't understand it, HHH kept telling everyone to hate him and cheer for Reigns, it's almost like that angle was moronic....
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COMICS! |OT| April 2016. I Think You're Fearless
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I don't understand it, HHH kept telling everyone to hate him and cheer for Reigns, it's almost like that angle was moronic....
Bear Force One
Banned
Planetary. That was easy.
Right after that Shade the Changing Man.
Then Seven Soldiers.
Then Legion Lost.
Calcium
Banned
Print out that list and show it to whoever does your interview. Tell them you'll buy them if you get the job. Instant hire.
Freezasaurus
Member
Triple H got a big pop when he kicked Reigns in the nuts. At that point, I think it may be time to find another guy to push.
Mitch
Banned
"By the way, your decision will make or break my comic hobby. Without it, my life has no meaning. Figured I'd give you a heads up!"
Solid plan.
whatsinaname
Member
Anyone read this book in Italian (or the other languages it is out in)? Releasing tomm. and it looks very interesting.
5000 km Per Second
5000 km Per Second
I don't know why you're not there
I give you my love, but you don't care
So what is right and what is wrong?
Gimme a sign
Calcium
Banned
I wouldn't even say that much. Just hand them the list and give a curt nod when they make eye contact. "I'll be expecting your call." - Walk out. Perfection.
Freezasaurus
Member
whatsinaname
Member
Yeah, I remember watching that movie. While the execution fell a bit flat for me, the theme and central idea was quite brilliant.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/a...t-from-civil-war-ii-in-civil-war-ii-kingpin-1
Kingpin is getting a book during Civil War II.
Kingpin is getting a book during Civil War II.
Freezasaurus
Member
Don't cry Shane
He tryin' to guilt-trip Vince. And it worked.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
People are covering most of my recommendations. Time to get some deeper cuts
Stormwatch by Ellis. This is the best team cape book that's not from the big 2. Better than the authority.
Young Justice by PAD. The happiest fun young hero teen book ever. Peter David wrote the best Impulse character
Crossing Midnight by Mike Carey. Take Careys Lucifer/Unwritten style + Japanese folklore. I enjoyed it more than unwritten
Gotham Central - a top 10 series for me. Best cop book in comics
Starman - another in my top 10 of all time
Wildcats 3.0 by Casey. So ahead of its time. It was doing things about blending cape books and corporate dynamics a decade before others gave it a try. So good.
Secret six by Simone
Hard Time - a crazy little 12 issue book that was better than it had any right to be.
Batman and the Monster men - cool early days mini
Brave and the Bold by JMS
Cinderella from fable town with love. Amazing fables mini
Ex Machina
Fallen Angel - a great DC book by pad. Got cNcelled and moved to IDW. Didn't like as much after the switch.
Global Frequency - another Ellis gem
The Golden Age - Robisnon figuring out his old school heroes with modern look deal. Fun stuff.
Batman/Huntress Cry for blood. Great Rucka mini telling her origins.
Pre 52 Jonah Hex by Gray & Pamiatti - Best western comic ever made. Almost all stand alone issues. Amazing work
The losers by Diggle & Jock - such a great sylized action book
Lucifer - I hated this book before I read it because someone besides Gaiman was writing Lucifer. But then I tried it and was amazed at how good it was and how he retained the character tone and portrayal.
Madame Xandu - such a beautiful book and a great examination of a character not well know. Actually MESSI would love this book
Orbiter - a cool Ellis stand alone about space exploration
Sgt. Rock the prophesy - really liked this Kubert war book mini
Sleeper - best undercover/spy book ever
Superman secret identity - my favorite superman story
Freezasaurus
Member
Probably because books are remembered more by the content of the story than how well or not it's illustrated (unless the art is nothing short of stellar). I think a lack of quality in the writing will break a book quicker than lower quality art.
Freezasaurus
Member
Question about Injustice... I'm noticing there seem to be bunch more issues available digitally than there are in the trades? How does this work? It seems each cover is shared by two digital issues, so I'm not sure how these are broken up.
TetraxShards
Member
The first couple of years were three digital chapters per print issue, so 36 chapters became twelve issues across two TPBs, plus the annual. Not sure about the later ones. All this talk has kind of made me want to revisit it. I'll probably end up playing the story mode of the game again as well, I have it on Vita and PC and never finished it in either place (I beat it on 360 the day it released).
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Sure if you don't mind it not having an ending cuz it's all one big tie-in for a shitty crossover. I consider it to be a massive waste of time.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
1) it's quicker and easier for people to remember or to type out. Yes I know Phillips is on Sleeper and Sale is on The Long Halloween and Dillion is with Preacher, etc. but it's a quick shorthand. And when I recommend a book I don't think I'd ever go "the writing isn't good but it's got great art...you should read it". I will recommend the opposite.
2) it's more rare to have a consistent artist and writer as a team the whole way through. Who's the artist on sandman? PADs Hulk? Etc. Even on long runs it doesn't always happen. Tony Harris draws most of the Starman run but not all of it. But Robinson is 100% there the whole way through.
3) I can't think of an instance where I define a run or series by the artist. If the artist stays and the writers change I think I'd call it a different run.
Freezasaurus
Member
Fair point, but you usually DO see it when there's actually a consistent artist all the way through, like Batman by Snyder/Capullo or Green Arrow by Lemire/Sorrentino. That's just not common to have, unfortunately. But, yeah, in cases like Saga, who knows. I definitely agree that the artist deserves just as much credit.
Capullo bothers me, the rest of that team deserves just as much credit.
I agree, but typically the penciller gets the credit. They create the vision, even if the inkers and especially the colorists flesh that vision out. I think it would just be too convoluted, though, to say, "You need to read Batman by Snyder/Capullo/Miki/Plascencia."
I don't know anything about him bar what you have said, but I am watching this. He seems cool for a heel. The crowd really don't like him.
Freezasaurus
Member
That's the funny part. He's not a heel. At least not yet. They've been trying to push him as a face for a while. Not working.
He just said he wasn't a face or a heel tho
That much booing changes a man, imagine liking valiant comics for a year and posting on comics gaf.
Mitch
Banned
The hits keep on coming.
echoshifting
Banned
Yep, Capullo has never looked this good before and there's a reason for that
Freezasaurus
Member
Because even he knows he can't pass himself off as face with all those boos.
I don't think it's too much trouble acknowledging the artists when you refer to books -- there are cases when it becomes cumbersome sure, but "Robinson/Harris Starman" is just more objectively correct than "Robinson Starman" y'know? It doesn't give you the whole picture re: fill-ins and inkers and colourists obviously and we're in much dicier territory when we get to, say the Morrison Batman stuff, but that doesn't really justify (to go back to Messi's point) not crediting both BKV and Fiona Staples when we talk about Saga.
my name is ed
Banned
Ended up getting:
Batman new 52 vol 3
Gotham Central vols 1 and 2
Catwoman by Bru vols 1 and 2
in addition to recently picking up:
Secret Wars OHC (double dipping)
Hawkguy OHC vol 2
Black Mirror
DD Bru - Cruel and Unusual
JiM vol 2 Immonen and Schiti
Batman new 52 vol 1,2, 4
Fatale vol 3 and 4
UC Spider-Man (Miles Man) Vols 1-4 and Miles Morales Vol. 2
Spider-Men
Spider-Man : Family Business
Uncanny Avengers Remender vol 1 and 3
Weirdworld
Had to go Bat fam heavy. DC really has put *a lot* of talent on that line over the years
Up Up and Away didnt make the cut but is put in for future consideration
Ive seen Secret Six rec'd a few times. Never read anything by Simone. Whats it about?
ew no >:|
I have Watchmen and Batman & Robin tho
Sleeper is GOAT series. Wish I had uniform trades (vol 1, 2 and Season 2)
Starman looks really cool but a bit intimidating to get into due to its length
Have nearly all these/already working on them or have read them
I've read probably half of y'alls recs. Was strongly considering Kelly JLA but that early Manke art was a little too struggle for me. Legion Lost is apparently out of print. I really wanted to pick it up. Will probably have to get it off Amazon. Tho not for a while. I've recently spent 160+ on a few orders. Been wanting to read Unknown Soldier for a looong time. Never makes the cut tho.
Comics artists are whiny. Never listen to them when they ask to be recognized!
end note: how does BKatastrophe always post while quoting a million people. This shit takes too much time
Batman new 52 vol 3
Gotham Central vols 1 and 2
Catwoman by Bru vols 1 and 2
in addition to recently picking up:
Secret Wars OHC (double dipping)
Hawkguy OHC vol 2
Black Mirror
DD Bru - Cruel and Unusual
JiM vol 2 Immonen and Schiti
Batman new 52 vol 1,2, 4
Fatale vol 3 and 4
UC Spider-Man (Miles Man) Vols 1-4 and Miles Morales Vol. 2
Spider-Men
Spider-Man : Family Business
Uncanny Avengers Remender vol 1 and 3
Weirdworld
Had to go Bat fam heavy. DC really has put *a lot* of talent on that line over the years
Up Up and Away didnt make the cut but is put in for future consideration
Ive seen Secret Six rec'd a few times. Never read anything by Simone. Whats it about?
ew no >:|
I have Watchmen and Batman & Robin tho
I read one trade of Hitman and wasnt a fan. I often see it recommended
Sleeper is GOAT series. Wish I had uniform trades (vol 1, 2 and Season 2)
Starman looks really cool but a bit intimidating to get into due to its length
Have nearly all these/already working on them or have read them
Pretty much every time I ask for recs Im just hoping you two reply.
I've read probably half of y'alls recs. Was strongly considering Kelly JLA but that early Manke art was a little too struggle for me. Legion Lost is apparently out of print. I really wanted to pick it up. Will probably have to get it off Amazon. Tho not for a while. I've recently spent 160+ on a few orders. Been wanting to read Unknown Soldier for a looong time. Never makes the cut tho.
Paul Pope is dope and Im surprised you didnt mention Batman year 100 in addition. Looks like people really like Miller Batgirl huh Im missing vol 3 of Seven Soldiers. Someone send me their copy pls
Whats Sandman Mystery Theatre about? I picked up a lot of issues back in the day that I never read perusing half price books.
Planetary is great and Im seriously considering rebuying vol 1 so it lines up with the rest of my vols. All I know about Shade is that its one of the last good Milligan series.
Yass thats the good stuff, gonna save this for future reference.
Comics artists are whiny. Never listen to them when they ask to be recognized!
srs answer: artists bounce in and out of a series. would love there to be more consistency but even artists that have a strong strong influence on the book tend to be 2nd in recognition. See Hitch with Ultimates, Aja on Hawkguy. Publishing schedule is just impossible for artists to be recognized as being the headliners on the books even if they do most of the work!
end note: how does BKatastrophe always post while quoting a million people. This shit takes too much time
Poodlestrike
Banned
Wait, Ed, you hadn't read Gotham Central before?
:O
It is Crazy Good Shit.
And BKatastrophe is actually a dirty Mutie.
:O
It is Crazy Good Shit.
And BKatastrophe is actually a dirty Mutie.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
Sure. in those instances it's more appropriate. But I usually don't do it out of shorthand or old habits or sometimes I forget who the artist was on a series or whatnot. I generally identify things and go where the writer goes.
Edit: and yea Ed I love seeing Tim and Frye recommendations. I usually nod and go "Yea great stuff"
Also if you haven't try to track down Rucka's Wonder Woman run. My favorite run for the character. I'd say definitive but I haven't gone back and read the Perez run from back in the day.
And Gotham central and The Brubaker/Cook/and friends run of Catwoman is the best! You'll love those comics
TheDarkKnight774
Member
That's because you didn't also credit the artists and inkers.
That's because you didn't also credit the artists and inkers.
I gave credit to Sandoval who did the art on arguably the "Best" part
Freezasaurus
Member
Messi marking out.
I actually did. I love Lita.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
I actually did think about saying Year 100 too, but I figured it's already in obvious classic territory so didn't include it lol
And yeah, that Batgirl run rules. I picked it up cause of Serpentine and it was a wise decision. Super fun series and it captures a lot of what made pre-reboot DCU so special. It's my favorite Batgirl series.
Freezasaurus
Member
Lita used to do the sloppiest moonsaults though. It looked like a sandbag flipping through the air.
Don't say things you can't take back. Before there was Olivia there was Lita.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
Listen to this man. He's a librarian. He knows about these things!!!!
Outside all the obvious things about starman that makes it great is how it started to open up my eyes to the awesomeness of the classic cape heroes, and the old eras and to enjoy the fun of the cheese and the great sense of the legacy. It's one of there early books that took me from my early comic reading days of "I hate everything at DC except batman" (hey I started in 92 with Xmen, image comics and batman. I had room to grow) into a huge fan of all the heroes and histories of the classics.
In the story the journey and outlook of things as Jack mirrors what the reader experiences in their outlooks of those silly dressed old heroes.