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[BenjaminBirdie]

Dark Matter sounds weird af

New Characs with top tier creators but is this shit like in universe or what

 

[Donniewahlberg]

Wonder what we'll see under these new Dark Matter and Master Class banners.

Sounds cool. Feels like what most books should be doing anyway but if this is what it takes to get them to sell, fire away. Hopefully what comes of it is cool.

 

[LordOfLore]

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[Roland_Gunner]

Dark Matter sounds weird af

New Characs with top tier creators but is this shit like in universe or what

Dark Matter is designed to expand the DC Universe while "Rebirth" was meant to revitalize it.

Sounds in universe.

 

[echoshifting]

I'm wary of Master Class

Dark Matter, on the other hand, sounds incredibly exciting

 

[LordOfLore]

EW article.

 

[tim1138]

Hopefully Dark Matter is the Rebirth expansion of the magic and cosmic lines

-edit-

EW article.

Those sound pretty interesting, and they got Rocafort back. It's a shame Snyder is writing the Challengers of the Unknown reboot though

 

[RepairmanJack]

Master Class seems to be an attempt to get back to the OG Image artist led concept.

DiDio brought out Jim Lee, John Romita, Jr, Andy Kubert, and Greg Capullo to thunderous applause, introducing them as the "DC Master Class."

One of these things is not like the other...

 

[GAMEPROFF]

Dark Matter sounds more like Universe stuff.
Has DC something there beside Lantern Corps? I dont know

 

[JordanDeGroot]

For about twenty minutes this DC thing has been a whole lot of nothing ha

"We are artists who love our writers and our colourists and our fathers :/"

 

[JordanDeGroot]

To be fair though that ew article seems to show a lot more info than the newsarama feed so far

 

[Donniewahlberg]

Refocusing on creator names to sell new characters and concepts is great, and if it needs to be superstars first to re-educate the consumer to make way for that rule of thumb for everyone else, okay. Less banners and tag lines though lol

 

[Manmademan]

You would think with rich being back you would have an appearance from her

Rich has a romantic subplot with Gamora (with its origins in annihilation) that the team is exploring instead.

Had the book been a success (or New Warriors v.5 for that matter) someone would have explored that plot but as it is these characters are cursed.

 

[8bit]

None of the Dark Matter stuff sounds particularly interesting, most of DC's output seems to be by those guys anyway.

 

[JordanDeGroot]

Huh so the DC master class is creator titles with only the best artists, which is by the end of the year going to expand to 20 artists

So DC apparently has 20 of the best artists in comics, hmmmm yeah okay sure :?

 

[Ross61]

A new Challengers of The Unknown by Scott Snyder and Andy Kubert? I'm on board.

 

[Ross61]

Huh so the DC master class is creator titles with only the best artists, which is by the end of the year going to expand to 20 artists

So DC apparently has 20 of the best artists in comics, hmmmm yeah okay sure :?

I'd say so. Atleast in superhero comics.

 

[tim1138]

Huh so the DC master class is creator titles with only the best artists, which is by the end of the year going to expand to 20 artists

So DC apparently has 20 of the best artists in comics, hmmmm yeah okay sure :?

They're probably hammering out new exclusive deals with folks as we speak

 

[LordOfLore]

DiDio said that Image and Marvel are not DC's competition - "Ultimately, I consider the competition to be TV, films, and video games, cause they're telling better stories than us."

He's right. It's also way harder to sell a comic than a game or movie.

 

[RepairmanJack]

He's right. It's also way harder to sell a comic than a game or movie.

I also wonder if this line is meaning their competition for creators. Losing creators to tv and film...

 

[mreddie]

Master Class sounds really...eh.

 

[Dusknoir]

DC doing a new imprint? Wow, they must be rolling in money to make this many of them in 2 years. Can't wait to see the art in these books.

 

[PsychBat!]

I wouldn't say better. More like... more readily available almost everywhere.

 

[Donniewahlberg]

Those sound pretty interesting, and they got Rocafort back. It's a shame Snyder is writing the Challengers of the Unknown reboot though

Ouch, I missed that part haha at least you'll have a few more anecdote openers for parties man.

Shows where we're at when at when their big announcement is something that really should be naturally the case and it's a win because it's at least not actively against it. That quote about their real comp being TV, movies and video games is ridiculous though, particularly video games. If DC feel like video games are out classing them, they have very low self esteem, and if they're looking past the best publishers in terms of exciting creator output towards TV, well, sure. JRJR got your back I guess.

Without the hyperbole though I do think it's a start and a better first step than none at all.

 

[shingi70]

Ouch, I missed that part haha at least you'll have a few more anecdote openers for parties man.

Shows where we're at when at when their big announcement is something that really should be naturally the case and it's a win because it's at least not actively against it. That quote about their real comp being TV, movies and video games is ridiculous though, particularly video games. If DC feel like video games are out classing them, they have very low self esteem, and if they're looking past the best publishers in terms of exciting creator output towards TV, well, sure. JRJR got your back I guess.

I don't think it's low self esteem but more the new reality of the market. More people these days probably have Arrow or Arkham Cityas Defentive stories compared to say Hush or Longbow hunters

 

[LordOfLore]

DC doing a new imprint? Wow, they must be rolling in money to make this many of them in 2 years. Can't wait to see the art in these books.

Not imprint. Banner. They corrected on twitter.

 

[Kssio_Aug]

That's the rumor!

Only read the first issue and thought it was OK. It's no Flintstones (but what is?) but it seems like a decent read. Very different take on the franchise.

Thanks! I think I'll give it a try!

 

[Roland_Gunner]

DC doing a new imprint? Wow, they must be rolling in money to make this many of them in 2 years. Can't wait to see the art in these books.

Its a small difference but this isn't a new imprint like Young Animal. Its a new branding to get attention to the initiative.

Imprint = separate world and continuity

Brand = Part of the 'main' DCU. Something like the Nu52 or Rebirth.

 

[LordOfLore]

"Dark Matter is a banner - not an imprint, not a world, not a universe," DiDio said.

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[echoshifting]

Its a small difference but these aren't a new imprint like Young Animal. Its a new branding to get attention to the initiative.

Imprint = separate world and continuity

Brand = Part of the 'main' DCU. Something like the Nu52 or Rebirth.

Young Animal is in main DCU

 

[RepairmanJack]

Young Animal is in main DCU

I feel like that is a relationship going more one way than the other. It's like they're just having fun with it and none of the DC books would actually acknowledge it really, but Young Animal is free to play with the DC all they want.

 

[LordOfLore]

This is probably what King's New Gods book will be launched in.

 

[Donniewahlberg]

Oh cool, Paul Tobin has an ongoing at Oni that got announced, quite liked his witcher books and apparently Colder was good too? It's a pulpy monster book features a descendent of Frankenstein. "Made Men"

Might check this out

 

[shingi70]

I feel like that is a relationship going more one way than the other. It's like they're just having fun with it and none of the DC books would actually acknowledge it really, but Young Animal is free to play with the DC all they want.

They acknowledge them. The last Arc of Green Arrow had a Wild Dog gang that were inspired by Wild Dog and took his look to go around killing liberals and minorites.


Batman and Batwoman have appeared in Mother Panic, and Superman and the Metal Men have appeared in Cave Carson.

 

[RepairmanJack]

They acknowledge them. The last Arc of Green Arrow had a Wild Dog gang that were inspired by Wild Dog and took his look to go around killing liberals and minorites.

Batman and Batwoman have appeared in Mother Panic, and Superman and the Metal Men have appeared in Cave Carson.

Yeah, but Wild Dog was already a DC character and was just in the Arrow show. I mean more I doubt the main line books will ever really have much to do with Mother Panic or Shade in the books, but YA is probably free to do whatever, like those ones you mentioned.

 

[Messi]

Oh cool, Paul Tobin has an ongoing at Oni that got announced, quite liked his witcher books and apparently Colder was good too? It's a pulpy monster book features a descendent of Frankenstein. "Made Men"




Might check this out

This is where you tell us you haven't read Bandette.

 

[Donniewahlberg]

This is where you tell us you haven't read Bandette.

Hah it is. It's literally just the witcher stuff, which is a kind of dicey thing to judge a writer on but I guess if he made it work. Worth checking out then?

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

What are some good DC books out this week? I already picked up Batman.

EW article.

This sounds really cool.

 

[Messi]

Hah it is. It's literally just the witcher stuff, which is a kind of dicey thing to judge a writer on but I guess if he made it work. Worth checking out then?

Bandette is an absolute delight

The best little hardcovers too.

 

[whatsinaname]

What are some good DC books out this week? I already picked up Batman.

Spoiler

I actually haven't read it yet...

 

[shingi70]

Anyone going to make a thread about Dark Matter.

 

[caliph95]

Bandette is an absolute delight



The best little hardcovers too.

Definately a mesi kind of book

Also colder was great:

 

[LordOfLore]

Anyone going to make a thread about Dark Matter.

Feel free to do it. Take that image I posted further up. Remember to link the Newsarama feed of the panel.

Looking forward to this "new age of heroes".

 

[RepairmanJack]

What are some good DC books out this week? I already picked up Batman.


This sounds really cool.

Superman and Super Sons!

 

[echoshifting]

Yeah, but Wild Dog was already a DC character and was just in the Arrow show. I mean more I doubt the main line books will ever really have much to do with Mother Panic or Shade in the books, but YA is probably free to do whatever, like those ones you mentioned.

Oh yeah, this is my sense of things as well. I'm not expecting Mother Panic to pop up in Batman. She is in the DCU so Batwoman can pop up in her book, not the other way around

But technically! If you were listing all of the vigilantes operating in DCU Gotham, you would have to list her, so she still counts

 

[Messi]

What's all this then. David F Walker and Sanford Greene posted it.

 

[LordOfLore]

What's all this then. David F Walker and Sanford Greene posted it.

Creator owned?

 

[Donniewahlberg]

Bandette is an absolute delight

Also colder was great

Holy shit lol these two excerpts couldn't be more different haha. Both look great though, on the list they go, and I'm actually getting through the list lately. Now just the reading part...

I would buy an independent venture by the power man/iron fist team

 

[caliph95]

He is also telling me to read Once and Future Queen

 

[GAMEPROFF]

The Hail Hydra Thread has been pushed 😂🙈