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[TheFlow]

True,

I would complain about him wearing the iron man suit but the man wore suit of metal armor for years.

Long as he is not nerfed to the ground and getting rekted by street level villains/heroes

 

[BrightLightLava]

I also didn't mention it earlier, but the Hercules/Civil War Gods of War series is still really interesting to me. It's go the old world vs new world thing that American Gods had, but with fun versions of mythological heroes. It was nice to see Sigurd and Lorelei again.

 

[LordOfLore]

Update on the Cho thing. Sounds like DC did everything to get Rucka back but Cho understands and only blames Rucka.

 

[Freezasaurus]

Update on the Cho thing. Sounds like DC did everything to get Rucka back.

I didn't really pay much attention to the whole thing. What did Cho do that made Rucka upset?

 

[Busaiku]

Digital comics sales actually dropped in 2015, despite the overall market growing by 10%.
This was the best year ever since 1993.

I didn't really pay much attention to the whole thing. What did Cho do that made Rucka upset?

Wonder Woman panty shot.

 

[Owzers]

Disrespect Spider-gwen and you get on the list.

or was it Batgirl?

Eh, who cares.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

I didn't really pay much attention to the whole thing. What did Cho do that made Rucka upset?

He didn't like the pose and it showed what looked to be a little panty shot.

Disrespect Spider-gwen and you get on the list.

or was it Batgirl?

Eh, who cares.

Spider-Gwen does that all by herself.

 

[TetraxShards]

Digital comics sales actually dropped in 2015, despite the overall market growing by 10%.
This was the best year ever since 1993.

 

[Brianimaniac]

Digital comics sales actually dropped in 2015, despite the overall market growing by 10%.
This was the best year ever since 1993.

Bendis has responded to this.

http://brianmichaelbendis.tumblr.com/post/147358054507/i-saw-some-article-on-icv2-saying-how-digital

 

[Freezasaurus]

He didn't like the pose and it showed what looked to be a little panty shot.

Seems like he overreacted a bit, but Cho gonna Cho, I guess.

 

[Owzers]

Bendis has responded to this.

http://brianmichaelbendis.tumblr.com/post/147358054507/i-saw-some-article-on-icv2-saying-how-digital

ewwwwwwwwwww he jokes about Civil War 2 selling well at the end, it was that kind of joke that makes you smirk then get nauseous.

 

[Hagi]

Update on the Cho thing. Sounds like DC did everything to get Rucka back but Cho understands and only blames Rucka.

I didn't know people were that bothered by what goes into the making of variant covers. It's a shame because I actually liked what he was producing, he draws a pretty great Wonder Woman.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

I didn't know people were that bothered by what goes into the making of variant covers. It's a shame because I actually liked what he was producing, he draws a pretty great Wonder Woman.

Typically no one cares and after this incident nothing is gonna change in how variants are made.

 

[Busaiku]

Bendis has responded to this.

http://brianmichaelbendis.tumblr.com/post/147358054507/i-saw-some-article-on-icv2-saying-how-digital

I agree that digital tracking is very speculative at this point, but I can see a reason for the decline.
Marvel basically moved its entire line to $3.99, including digital codes. This inclusion likely wouldn't be included with the overall digital figure.

 

[Sandfox]

I agree that digital tracking is very speculative at this point, but I can see a reason for the decline.
Marvel basically moved its entire line to $3.99, including digital codes. This inclusion likely wouldn't be included with the overall digital figure.

Marvel has been doing that since 2012 though.

 

[diaspora]

I mean, if Cho was told that he'd have control of what he draws, some asshat coming out of nowhere and trying to demand changes is somewhat asinine.

I mean putting aside the bizarre nonsense about muh censorship,

I was given assurance that I would not have to deal with the Wonder Woman book writer or editor at all, and were told I would only be dealing with Mark Chiarello. So I came onboard and started working right away.
... Then Chiarello started getting art notes from Greg Rucka ordering him to tell me to alter and change things on the covers.

This would present a bit of a problem. Like if I was doing web development and was assured that I'd only be working with the art director/ creative lead but some other joker starts trying to give me artistic/coding input it'd be ridiculous IMO.

 

[PsychBat!]

Drop the book. The bitchy, jaded "I buy things I know I'm going to hate" comic book reader is a bad look.

No offense, but he has every right to rant about it. And I have never seen anyone recommend dropping a book due to an attitude.

 

[Hagi]

I mean, if Cho was told that he'd have control of what he draws, some asshat coming out of nowhere and trying to demand changes is somewhat asinine.

I mean putting aside the bizarre nonsense about muh censorship,
This would present a bit of a problem. Like if I was doing web development and was assured that I'd only be working with the art director/ creative lead but some other joker starts trying to give me artistic/coding input it'd be ridiculous IMO.

Seems like it boils down to DC not communicating to Cho that Rucka had full editorial control over the book and everything relating to it. He says himself that if he knew this beforehand he wouldn't have taken the job. I'd probably be annoyed as well. It'd be nice to get some insight from Rucka but really I'm not that bothered, it's not like he was doing interiors for the book.

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

I didn't know people were that bothered by what goes into the making of variant covers.

Gaf OT cares. Right Messi?

 

[diaspora]

Seems like it boils down to DC not communicating to Cho that Rucka had full editorial control over the book and everything relating to it. He says himself that if he knew this beforehand he wouldn't have taken the job. I'd probably be annoyed as well. It'd be nice to get some insight from Rucka but really I'm not that bothered, it's not like he was doing interiors for the book.

Yeah, but god damn he draws an amazing Wonder Woman.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

The only time I get mad at variants is when the artist doing it is way better than the main artist.

 

[whatsinaname]

I mean, if Cho was told that he'd have control of what he draws, some asshat coming out of nowhere and trying to demand changes is somewhat asinine.

I mean, if Rucka was told he'd have full editorial control (and got it in writing), it feels rather entitled of some variant cover artist to demand free reign.

Personally, I think the main writer/artist/colourist team should have control of what variant covers are out there. If they don't, we end up with situations like the one with Batgirl and Albuquerque.

 

[Hagi]

Gaf OT cares. Right Messi?

I wish I got that Adam Hughes variant for issue one of Harley but I doubt I'd appreciate it as much as he does.

 

[anaron]

#teamrucka

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

I mean, if Rucka was told he'd have full editorial control (and got it in writing), it feels rather entitled of some variant cover artist to demand free reign.

Personally, I think the main writer/artist/colourist team should have control of what variant covers are out there. If they don't, we end up with situations like the one with Batgirl and Albuquerque.

A writer isn't gonna care about variants of the company wants 35+ of them. It's tough to handle and at the end of the day most writers want artists to get paid considering how hard they have to work to make decent money.

 

[Busaiku]

Marvel has been doing that since 2012 though.

Wasn't 2015 a bigger push to $3.99 though?

 

[flaxknuckles]

Marvel has been doing that since 2012 though.

Deadpool and a chunk of other books launched for $3 that year with the first Marvel Now.

 

[Brianimaniac]

No offense, but he has every right to rant about it. And I have never seen anyone recommend dropping a book due to an attitude.

Didn't say he wasn't allowed. I just said it's a bad look.

Marvel has been doing that since 2012 though.

They didn't include codes in all books. It was just the higher priced ones. They still had $2.99 books with no codes at that time.

 

[Dusknoir]

Hey Court of Owls is coming to new the season of Gotham

https://twitter.com/Ssnyder1835/status/754068496456249344

 

[Sandfox]

I'm waiting for Gotham to just go all out crazy and introduce Damian.

 

[Rhaknar]

Stanger Things is a better X-Men story than most X-Men movies

 

[TheFlow]

Hey Court of Owls is coming to new the season of Gotham

https://twitter.com/Ssnyder1835/status/754068496456249344

How hard is it to use the white mask! Like they already exist.

 

[echoshifting]

Duggan Deadpool > Way Deadpool

The lowest of bars. This is like saying a Catwoman writer is better than Nocenti

speaking of Deadpool, Spider-Man/Deadpool has been a fun read. Lot of bunch of tasty empty calories, dense single issue stories, really polished art. I'm totally cool with the fill-in issues as long as they keep the creative team of Joe Kelly/Ed McGuinness together.

Accurate. It's like a good popcorn flick. The first arc was great and I loved the guest writer's issue.

Another thumbs up for Uncanny X-Force Deadpool; best Deadpool

I love you Joe Kelly, I will never forget Deadpool #11 which was a gift to comicdom, but this is true

Bendis has responded to this.

http://brianmichaelbendis.tumblr.com/post/147358054507/i-saw-some-article-on-icv2-saying-how-digital

Yeah as soon as I saw that dumb article I knew it was bullshit. No sources or even an explanation of their methodology. Glad Bendis called it out.

 

[diaspora]

I mean, if Rucka was told he'd have full editorial control (and got it in writing), it feels rather entitled of some variant cover artist to demand free reign.

Personally, I think the main writer/artist/colourist team should have control of what variant covers are out there. If they don't, we end up with situations like the one with Batgirl and Albuquerque.

The level of Rucka's involvement in them with the minute changes he was demanding is ridiculous. What is the creative director even for?

 

[Hagi]

Hey Court of Owls is coming to new the season of Gotham

https://twitter.com/Ssnyder1835/status/754068496456249344

That's pretty cool, I haven't watched the second season yet but I hear it's a big improvement on the first

I'm waiting for Gotham to just go all out crazy and introduce Damian.

The first appearance of Batman on the show should be Terry.

 

[TheFlow]

Gotham should of went full on Gotham Central.

maybe we will get an gotham academy one day

 

[WadiumArcadium]

That's pretty cool, I haven't watched the second season yet but I hear it's a big improvement on the first

It's mental. Entertaining though.

 

[mreddie]

AA on CBR still not addressing She Hulk and ignored Miss America (but namedropped everyone else) in the group shot.

Hey Al, your assholery is showing.

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

Gotham should of went full on Gotham Central.

maybe we will get an gotham academy one day

Yea. It would have been amazing and by far the best comic book TV show ever. I really don't think it would have been a stretch to pull it off either. But alas....

 

[Brianimaniac]

Wonder Woman: Rebirth #1 - My first Rebirth book after that initial one-shot, and not a great first impression. The issue can be summarized as follows:

"There are a bunch of different takes on my story. Which one is right? ¯_(&#12484_/¯"

It's like they made a whole comic out of a two-sentence summary of the premise.

I'm going to give this two more issues to see what a solo Sharp issue is like and a solo Scott issue.

 

[Sandfox]

AA on CBR still not addressing She Hulk and ignored Miss America (but namedropped everyone else) in the group shot.

Hey Al, your assholery is showing.

To be fair to him, the question he was asked only mentioned Elektra, Cable, and Quake, with his answer only being "Yes".

There's more books coming and hoping Ms. America is one of them, though people have no reason to trust that it's happening.

 

[Lashley]

How hard is it to use the white mask! Like they already exist.

They changed to black in Nightwing tbf

 

[Messi]

I wish I got that Adam Hughes variant for issue one of Harley but I doubt I'd appreciate it as much as he does.

It's my pride and joy. The best comic cover ever imo.

 

[Rhaknar]

Court of Owls is an amazing name for a villain group, whatever they are

 

[Messi]

Are Titans or Green Lanterns new reader friendly? Are Starfire or Raven in titans?

 

[Sandfox]

Are Titans or Green Lanterns new reader friendly? Are Starfire or Raven in titans?

I'm pretty sure both of those characters are in Teen Titans.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Are Titans or Green Lanterns new reader friendly? Are Starfire or Raven in titans?

The question you should be asking is "are these books good?"

 

[Messi]

The question you should be asking is "are these books good?"

Are they new reader friendly and are they good? I have already axed Hal Jordan and Justice League for being questionable.

Oh god Sam Humphries....

 

[Sandfox]

Speaking of the Teen Titans, I wonder what DC is going to do with Bart assuming they plan on ever using him again.

 

[Poodlestrike]

Yea. It would have been amazing and by far the best comic book TV show ever. I really don't think it would have been a stretch to pull it off either. But alas....

While that would have been indisputably amazing, Gotham is already the best comic book TV show ever.

Speaking of the Teen Titans, I wonder what DC is going to do with Bart assuming they plan on ever using him again.

Probably bring him in to replace new Wally after he ages out of the team.