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COMICS! |OT| July 2016. Everyone Loves A Hero, Everyone Loves You
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Brianimaniac
Banned
If Fraction wasn't involved with Iron Fist, he wouldn't have had a relationship with Aja when it came time to do Hawkeye, so that might not have happened either.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
HOLY SHIT.
Man to be stuck on that alternate earth.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I'm glad I live in this universe. Especially cuz the second half of Immortal Iron Fist is basically All Fraction, All the Time.
Not sure if this is a negative or a positive.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
that's because you're a bad person
BrightLightLava
Unconfirmed Member
Nah, I agree with Messi. Sometimes a little Fraction goes a long way. I still don't understand a single bit of ODY-C, and most of Casanova confused the hell out of me.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Mei is the back there, this is her rock star alt
Hinterkind. I actually ended up really liking it but it was clear after a certain point the story was being rushed forward due to impending cancellation. Shame really because I thought the core concept had potential.
Still need to finish off the last couple of issues actually.
whatsinaname
Member
If the rest of ODY-C is like issue 1, it's because it feels like he's trying too hard. He wants it to read like an epic but the writing and narrative point of view was all over the place.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Hard to believe its been ten years since he started on Casanova and its only like halfway done. When its all said and done, its gonna be his magnum opus, the one book you can point towards and say "That's the Matt Fraction comic", like Preacher for Ennis or the Invisibles with Morrison. Which doesnt mean its necessarily the best, but its clearly the one where they were free to do anything and everything they thought about life and art, and all their other work can be traced back to this in some way.
whatsinaname
Member
You may be right but he deserves better than that.
I didn't mean it as an insult. I was doing an order for IST recently and I had both volumes of Immortal Iron Fist in my cart meter read it. So I asked opinions on it and was told fairly strongly not to get the second volume. Even though I live fraction.
Serpentine
Banned
I thought this would be dumb but it actually makes sense, given that it's all big signings that would be wristbanded anyway
hell yes
BrightLightLava
Unconfirmed Member
I didn't either. He's written some of my favorite comics, and I still love a lot of his stuff, but I feel like when he goes all out experimental, like in ODY-C or some of Casanova, he mostly loses me.
Brianimaniac
Banned
With the first issues of Casanova, I felt like the backmatter was essential. Added a lot of important and meaningful context to what could otherwise seem random for the sake of being random.
I value the backmatter so much that I eventually got turned off by the refusal to include that stuff in collections, and then reprints with different backmatter. Now that I've gone all-digital, I'm not even clear what's in these collected editions that are on CMX.
I haven't really followed Fraction since he left Marvel. The creator-owned stuff he's done since just doesn't appeal to me.
I value the backmatter so much that I eventually got turned off by the refusal to include that stuff in collections, and then reprints with different backmatter. Now that I've gone all-digital, I'm not even clear what's in these collected editions that are on CMX.
I haven't really followed Fraction since he left Marvel. The creator-owned stuff he's done since just doesn't appeal to me.
The second half of Brubaker/Fraction/Aja Immortal Iron Fist =/= the second half of Immortal Iron Fist (collected in that volume)
ViewtifulJC
Banned
the digital versions on CMX are the best. Not only do you get the more polished colors for the first two volumes in a nice HD resolution, not only do you get the original backmatter, but Matt Fraction actually puts annotations to his own backmatter in the here and now. Like how at the time he saw Peter Jackson's King Kong and its TURBO RACIST version of the black natives so 2006 Matt is like "fuck yeah gon make all the black natives super smart cuz I aint racist", only for 2014 Matt to note "of course this just goes in the opposite direction by making them magical negroes who only exist in the story to help the white man out, dummy". Hindsight and all that.
I hope you didn't skip on the second half of the Fraction/Brubaker/Aja Iron Fist run, because WHOOPS
He's been producing artwork pretty consistently over the last few years so I don't know what you mean by this. His problem is he's slow. Understandably so when he's drawing that many wrinkles on orc penii
Brianimaniac
Banned
That's some of the best news I've heard in comics in a while. I gotta get back on that.
Wait I am confused. I only bought the complete Vol 1
yeah, that's good cuz Fraction and Aja finish off their run at #16, the last issue collected in the book you have. the second volume is Duane something and Travel Foreman
ViewtifulJC
Banned
yeah you dont want the the duane something 2nd volume. Its the Jeff Lemire All-New Hawkeye of its time
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Dude is the new Grant Morrison.
Brianimaniac
Banned
Wouldn't that be Gerard Way?
TetraxShards
Member
Consuming Morrison's soul doesn't make you into him. Or maybe it does.
Oh god. No thank you. Comicgaf saving me once more.
FUCK YASS! I liked all his graphic novels so far
edit: trilogy of 3 books with more than 300 pages each :O coooool
BrightLightLava
Unconfirmed Member
I, no sarcasm at all, can't wait to see how me makes the "bread makes you fat?" joke in this one.
Libel.
BrightLightLava
Unconfirmed Member
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
christ tho what if dustin harbin isn't fucking lettering this fucking book
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Nathan Fairbairn will be there, my sense of continuity is intact
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
this attitude is how you get Wonder Woman/Greg Rucka lettering
Woah how did I miss that!
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Listen, I've read those early 90s Legends of the Dark Knight Batman stories where everybody wrote Batman/Bruce Waynes narration captions in hard-to-read cursive on bad paper stock cuz Frank Miller did it in Year One. I've been through the trenches. I can handle anything.
I actually might have died laughing and went to hell. I will haunt Freeza for you guys.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Is he working on a comic? Orc Stain? Commissions? If it's taking you years to do something then somethings gotta give in his life or work.
Freezasaurus
Member
I haven't read the Witcher books, so I can't say. But Mass Effect comics (and by extension, Dragon Age) comics are trash. I wanted to like them given that I love the setting in Mass Effect, but yeah. It's just barely mediocre most times.
Damn, I do. Vaguely. I don't remember the title, though. How many of you remember this gem?
Ha. I knew he'd do another OGN. O'Malley has never done an ongoing before Snot Girl, right? So it'll be interesting to see how his work reads piecemeal like this.
The art in ODY-C is really freaky and interesting, but the writing just didn't carry my interest. I dropped it after a couple issues.
Worse. You're SillyMessi.
yeah, yeah, and no
i dunno why you think he hasn't done anything since the last Orc Stain ish
Freezasaurus
Member
How long does it take Stokoe to do a standard page? Because his detail work is crazy.
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