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COMICS! |OT| July 2016. Everyone Loves A Hero, Everyone Loves You
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LordOfLore
Banned
So, who's betting on Viv and Sam bonding over suffering so much?
echoshifting
Banned
It's gonna be Scott. Bonding over what they seem predestined/programmed to become.
Waid's gonna keep that Sam/Kamala/Miles triangle going for years
sight just send scott back
Why does Kid Hitler sound like a X-men codename? Someone send that to Rick and Morty twitterfeed.
edit: Oh yea,they already did Kid Apoc thats why it sounds familiar.
TetraxShards
Member
#TeamMiles
BrightLightLava
Unconfirmed Member
I still think it's really kind of terrible that the comics world go to voice for young characters is Mark Waid. The guy is 54. Bring in some new talent.
I like the team line up though. I like that Viv is going to be around for a little while longer.
And of course, the logo is terrible because it's a Marvel book in 2016.
I like the team line up though. I like that Viv is going to be around for a little while longer.
And of course, the logo is terrible because it's a Marvel book in 2016.
Yeah see, I was kinda willing to drop the whole "Marvel is just character-assasinating the X-Men because they can't do movies with 'em" angle, but Tom Brevoort actually thinks there's anything in Cyclops' recent history that makes him comparable in any way to Adolf Goddamn Hitler.
Put in the context of the whole "Steve Rogers is a nazi now" thing, it shows that a) Marvel ARE character-assasinating the X-Men and b) they don't have any fucking ideas what nazis are anymore.
pretty much. Cyclops is far from a nazi. more along the lines of a black panther.
Waid still gets it though, read Archie and dude has made that damn love triangle look believable.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Kid Hitler is a great superhero name
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
tbf wouldn't this attitude preclude a movie like indiana jones and the last crusade from being any fun at all?
or the producers?
in 2016?
Read Nameless last night, and... that was Morrison going as far into his Morrison-y strangeness as I think I've ever seen. Like, wow, I think that's even more insane and tricky to follow than the Filth, even if it did have some crazy (but helpful) discussion of what the hell was going on at the end of the hardcover.
Oh, and hey look, you guys could buy the entirety of One Piece on sale in one shot right now. (I actually totally do love One Piece and long since caught up and have been keeping up, but that would certainly be a good chunk of cash to grab everything at once). Also yay, Geoff Johns Justice League sounds like the perfect thing to buy digitally at a discount to me, so I'm definitely on top of that one!
Oh, and hey look, you guys could buy the entirety of One Piece on sale in one shot right now. (I actually totally do love One Piece and long since caught up and have been keeping up, but that would certainly be a good chunk of cash to grab everything at once). Also yay, Geoff Johns Justice League sounds like the perfect thing to buy digitally at a discount to me, so I'm definitely on top of that one!
BrightLightLava
Unconfirmed Member
One of the things Nick Spencer tweets a lot lately is that Hydra is more Nazi-Adjacent than actually Nazi.
pretty much. cyclops and miles on the same time requires an read from me.
slightconfuse
Banned
What has Chris Burnham been doing?
echoshifting
Banned
I must confess that Brevoort quote is amusing and makes little sense. How is Hitler a hugely divisive figure? He's probably one of the least divisive historical figures. Dude didn't bring his train of thought all the way into the station for that comparison.
BrightLightLava
Unconfirmed Member
I agree with you, Waid can do it and I've been enjoying Archie and most of ANAD Avengers. But why not give a book about young people figuring out their way in the world to a writer who's closer to that actual age?
Why not give Kate Leth a try, or Ryan North, or try to get Noelle Stevenson back?
I'm more referring to the way Marvel editorial and Nick Spencer have dropped the ball in a huge way in dealing with the backlash to Steve Rogers Captain America #1. I'm totally fine with fiction about nazis, but, you have to be real careful with it, and remember that you're talking about nazis, with all the weight this carries.
And saying "Hydra aren't full-on nazis, they're just nazi-adjacent" is probably the most cowardly cop-out.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Doesn't look like he has done anything yet this year. It looks like the last thing he did was Nameless with my favorite writer Granty M.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Literally don't even look at prices anymore on Wednesday morning but this is probably not going to end well
introducing the all-new, all-different X-Hitlers
there's Hitler, Hitler's Second Wife, Metal Hitler, Deep Sea Hitler, Jewish Hitler, Furry Hitler, Magic Lady Hitler, Asian Lady Ninja Hitler, Fireworks Hitler, Bald Hitler, Weather Hitler and Bub Hitler
they fight Frog Hitler
Would you say that people will choose sides regarding this pricing?
slightconfuse
Banned
Just reread it, still trying to unpack it
BrightLightLava
Unconfirmed Member
Here's a bunch of recommendations from Kieron Gillen, Kate Leth and Marjorie Liu.
Nice to see the Giant Days love:
Nice to see the Giant Days love:
echoshifting
Banned
Might as well stick with the tie ins and the Kingpin book.
Working on an unannounced book.
echoshifting
Banned
To add insult to injury here, Choosing Sides was complete fucking garbage. So it's the worst tie-in and the worst value outside of the main event book. Nice.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Fix #3 - The Miley Cyrus/Vanessa Hudgens issue LOL.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Good list, I'm always looking for new series' to read
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Indiana Jones pratfalls into Adolf Hitler, THE Adolf Hitler, and THE Adolf Hitler signs a very important artifact that could secure a very powerful relic for the nazis, presumably to help them exterminate more types of people they don't like, and the guy buffonishly signs it with his autograph and hands it back.
Now, Spielberg has since denounced this type of depiction of Nazis, but, I mean, we're not even talking about Nazis here. We're talking about dudes in green and yellow outfits, who inspire comics like Hank Johnson, Agent of Hydra and supporting characs like Bob, Agent of Hydra. Cartoons.
But let's follow this logic. If Hydra are more than "Nazi-adjacent" because of the Red Skull, is everyone else who teamed up with Red Skull during like Acts of Vengeance similarly Nazified?
There are plenty of actual things to be angry with mainstream comics about. Creator diversity, colorist credit, shitty logos, digital discrimination, garbage printing techniques, increasing prices, terrible inkers, no inkers, terrible artists, rushed comics, shitty logos, did I mention shitty logos?
Hydra has been a cartoon villain brand for forty years. Red Skull has erased Steve Rogers from the world as recently as Brube's run. This is nothing new. This is comics.
Cassandra Nova murdered millions of mutants and then, through the power of comic book storytelling, joined the X-Men as Ernst.
This whole argument makes no sense to me when there are actual meaningful fights to be fought.
Brianimaniac
Banned
Breaking it down to 23¢ a page might be the wake-up call I need. What the fuck am I doing with my money?
I generally read events like these more because I want to be informed on things that will directly influence other books I'm enjoying, but I really need to break the habit and rely more on recap pages.
I generally read events like these more because I want to be informed on things that will directly influence other books I'm enjoying, but I really need to break the habit and rely more on recap pages.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Four titles I read in there.
We make Bandette at work. I'll check it out next time I run out of things to read.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I weep at the idea of the Producers coming out in today's social media #woke world
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
The problem is that the direct market audience is so small and so middle class and so drenched in disposable income, they will continue to be milked at +$1 a year for the rest of their lives.
Tragicomedy
Member
Anything here with buying?
hipsterpants
Member
Is there an in-universe explanation as to how Kamala can possibly keep her secret identity/have a high school life while also being an avenger/"champion" or does Marvel just not care?
Cant imagine any company ever care about stuff like this.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
are you paul tobin
echoshifting
Banned
Yeah. I read the events because I generally end up enjoying the ride, but for someone who is just reading them effectively as a news bulletin I don't know how you look at those numbers and continue buying the book.
Brianimaniac
Banned
Attempts to explain these kinds of things that aren't very tongue-in-cheek have resulted in some of the worst superhero comics ever written.
echoshifting
Banned
Why single out Kamala? The suspension of disbelief Marvel is asking for here goes all the way back to the '60s.
Superman was created in the 30s
echoshifting
Banned
I mean specifically teen characters and specifically Marvel
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
it's also a bad choice for singling out considering how Wilson handles the people around her and their handling of her secret identity
The end of the Last Days storyline with her mom OF COURSE knowing she was Ms. Marvel was gorgeous and amazing
echoshifting
Banned
Yeah. I mean it comes up all the time in that book. In Nova and Spider-Man too. It's not like they pretend it would be easy.
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