Lol no it isn't.
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COMICS! |OT| July 2016. Everyone Loves A Hero, Everyone Loves You
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Lol no it isn't.
Bendis iron man is not to shabby
Brianimaniac
Banned
It started fine, but it's just not moving the story along. It's paced like books were paced in 2004. Back when writing for the trade was real and every idea got a six-issue arc whether it needed one or not.
Poodlestrike
Banned
King seems to be playing up the humor a little; Alfred in particular, but Bruce's very dry sense of what's funny seems to be making a comeback.
It's been a slow burn, but things are definitely moving forward. No clue what Tragicomedy and JC are on, as per usual. Unless your ideal here is just nothing but action setpieces, I dunno.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
maybe they don't like creepy stuff being afraid of skellingtons and frankemsteins? #HollywoodHandbook
Oh damn. That is cray
Poodlestrike
Banned
3 spoopy 5 tragicomedy
Vic_Viper
Member
Some books are doing it that way and some are switching each issue. An arc is one thing and that's fine but having a different artist each issue is kinda jarring. Marvel usually keeps the same team together aside from the random issue here and there to give the artist a break. DC is doing it to keep the books coming out faster which doesn't always equal quality.
How rare are the DCBS variant covers for their hardcover trades like the Deadly Class book? I won't be able to buy it until tomorrow and wasn't sure if it will be available.
Tragicomedy
Member
I don't even know what that meme is, but it sounds like a well constructed counter to my opinions on the book. Also, I find your "no clue what they're on about, per usual" response pretty funny considering you openly agreed with me that Batman Rebirth was a big disappointment. You must not know what you're on or are being selective with your memory.
I'm fine either way. Your opinion holds equal weight to mine. Glad you're enjoying there book.
And Birdie was right, this art on Aquaman is jarringly bad. Everyone is a He-Man clone!
whatsinaname
Member
ViewtifulJC fighting the valiant fight on CBR forums...
flaxknuckles
Member
Well I think it has been pretty swell ever since the end of All Out Crap so this issue must be amazing.
I kinda figured this would be happening and I'm not going to read the comments on other sites because I'm sure they'll make me upset lol. Bendis himself said he has seen comments like Why do we need Riri Williams we already have Miles? and that's obviously tame.
They obviously aren't going to renumber ever book.
I doubt this is affecting too many mutants given Death of X is so close.
That is a werid decision.
That's how ever Bendis book goes. He always reads better in trade even going back to the original USM run in 2000.
So far we've seen her in like five pages and this week she
punched out a truck
King pulling a Bendis?
Poodlestrike
Banned
Just taking the piss, man. Lighten up!
I've said before that All Out War should have never been framed as an event, because it
served as more of a prologue to the events that have unfolded over the past few arcs. There isn't a huge sense of satisfaction coming off of that event. Negan fucks up Rick and Negan gets arrested. Then shit goes down after it is clearly defined as that "event" being over. All it served was to rush certain character deaths like Ezekiel's tiger. It's a very meaningless war and after this past issue it's basically confirmed that Negan is #teamrick and is vying for a second in command/enforcer/general role. So it was genuinely all for nothing.
Brianimaniac
Banned
It has other issues. Like it starts off with that fantastic Marquez art in the first arc, but then the second arc is bad Deodato art. And I like Deodato sometimes (less often now than in years past), but sometimes he really ruins stories with his celebrity faces, and that's what he's doing on Iron Man.
Doom's role early on was exciting and I couldn't wait to see how that developed, but so far it hasn't developed. Doom has just continued to do the same thing over and over again, showing up to be helpful while being coy about what his angle is. Instead of progressing that story a little further with each new installment, it seems like he's just going to repeat himself until we get to some big "all at once" reveal of what Doom's motives were, and I just don't think that's good storytelling.
And I hate to harp on it, but it really takes away from things to have Doom looking exactly like Vincent Cassel in Deodato's art. Doom just isn't the kind of person that Cassel plays, and it creates dissonance.
International Iron Man is worse. Than one didn't even have the benefit of a solid first arc to jump off from. It has that same problem as the Doom subplot where instead of slowly moving the story forward with each issue, each issue has a scene of Tony asking why his parents are and this mystery lady being all "you don't want none of this shit, Dewey". And at some point, he'll hit us with the whole answer all at once, but I can't bring myself to buy one more issue to find out.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Oh, I am more than willing to give her a chance, just hope she's written well.
Just read Justice League: Rebirth (First book today), was good. Good introduction to the Justice League for people new to our world.
whatsinaname
Member
Damn, Fantagraphics is doing amazing work with all of their physical releases. Might be my favourite pub at the moment.
This looks and sounds very interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUAGUXgYc5E
Zahhak: The Legend of the Serpent King
This looks and sounds very interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUAGUXgYc5E
Zahhak: The Legend of the Serpent King
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Well this one point shouldn't be an issue for me personally since I don't know who Vincent Cassel is.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Sorry, I was making a reference to my favorite podcast Hollywood Handbook. I think he might have been making a Steve Brule reference?
Yeah, what the hell was that!
Negan being Negan. That dude never stops surprising me
Basically confirmed what I've thought since we got insight into the character back when we saw how he operated as leader of the Saviors:
Negan is a good guy. This issue confirmed that he's tired of posturing and likes what Rick has created. He'll be happy with a number 2 role. Rick is Walter White and Negan is Jessie Pinkman.
Negan is a good guy. This issue confirmed that he's tired of posturing and likes what Rick has created. He'll be happy with a number 2 role. Rick is Walter White and Negan is Jessie Pinkman.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
How long are their podcasts usually?
echoshifting
Banned
Just read Aquaman.
This issue is a complete disaster and makes a pretty good argument that the double shipping initiative will fail spectacularly. I realize that sounds like hyperbole but I don't think it is, especially in light of what Birdie posted earlier about the many artists of Green Lanterns #3. DC doesn't seem to actually have a plan for how this is going to work, how it is going to result in classic stories people will still remember a year from now. You can't show such complete disregard for the visual aspect of this medium without producing forgettable books.
I mean, this happens. Fill-in artists have been a thing since forever. But if it's going to happen regularly in a lot of books, DC has created a problem for themselves I don't think they can solve without abandoning the initiative.
I'd so much rather read a once-a-month Aquaman book with a regular team, and pay $4 for it. If this is an early indicator of a "quantity over quality" mentality I'm gonna check out of the whole line pretty quickly.
This issue is a complete disaster and makes a pretty good argument that the double shipping initiative will fail spectacularly. I realize that sounds like hyperbole but I don't think it is, especially in light of what Birdie posted earlier about the many artists of Green Lanterns #3. DC doesn't seem to actually have a plan for how this is going to work, how it is going to result in classic stories people will still remember a year from now. You can't show such complete disregard for the visual aspect of this medium without producing forgettable books.
I mean, this happens. Fill-in artists have been a thing since forever. But if it's going to happen regularly in a lot of books, DC has created a problem for themselves I don't think they can solve without abandoning the initiative.
I'd so much rather read a once-a-month Aquaman book with a regular team, and pay $4 for it. If this is an early indicator of a "quantity over quality" mentality I'm gonna check out of the whole line pretty quickly.
BrightLightLava
Unconfirmed Member
Brianimaniac
Banned
If you go see Jason Bourne this summer, Deodato's Doom will be the guy trying to kill Matt Damon.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
DERP! Wrong Vincent.
Negan is basically going to walk up to him like a dog with a dead animal in its mouth and drop it on the ground like "isn't this great?"
Rick is going to be like "Holy shit do you know what you have done? They're going to come looking for revenge."
"You built yourself an army. You're ready for them Rick."
And Rick will get huffy but ultimate agree that Negan is now a good guy, but their allegiance will be rocky.
But yeah, it's funny you said this because he -has- redeemed himself. He killed the guy who broke him out because he wasn't loyal to Rick, he infiltrated the Whisperers to see how they operate and hated it (Rape, lack of civility, etc.) and he killed Alpha as payback for her taking the heads of his people.
Rick is going to be like "Holy shit do you know what you have done? They're going to come looking for revenge."
"You built yourself an army. You're ready for them Rick."
And Rick will get huffy but ultimate agree that Negan is now a good guy, but their allegiance will be rocky.
But yeah, it's funny you said this because he -has- redeemed himself. He killed the guy who broke him out because he wasn't loyal to Rick, he infiltrated the Whisperers to see how they operate and hated it (Rape, lack of civility, etc.) and he killed Alpha as payback for her taking the heads of his people.
flaxknuckles
Member
They go back to $4 comics and I'll drop every single book and wait for sales and trades. They need to fix the art situation but upping the price again isn't the answer.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
I certainly hope so
Man, no comic this week is going to top TWD, I wish I left it until last
Serpentine
Banned
Made some edits to that first post. Go look.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
typically a clean 45
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
You've actually got a point there. Has it been revealed who he lost before the dead rose up?
I love how he doesn't give a shit about killing kids or anything, but rape is a strict no-no to him
Also, I think it's relevant that he annoyed the fuck out of Beta who will hastily attack as a result of this.
I thought you were already checked out, but I feel you are going to the extreme with the DC situation. Green arrow has two great artist in rotation. The problem is where they are going with the story.
If books can't handle the bimonthly then they will switch to monthly which we al know is going to happen.
Aquaman already rough art to begin with but the art in the preview looked just about the same so I gotta wait till I get home to read it for myself
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Tbf he'd have attacked him r
egardless after what he's done
Guy was friendzoned to bits
Guy was friendzoned to bits
Beta wasn't just a name
They should just draw faster
I loved doom but then again I only read the first arc so I don't know how bad it gets
echoshifting
Banned
That's just it though, how do they fix it? Managing a couple of books on this schedule would be really hard and I feel like it's more than half their line.
Might not be able to have our cake and eat it too. I'd gladly pay $6 a month for 44 pages of good comic, but after this issue of Aquaman I am really not sure they can actually deliver that.
LordOfLore
Banned
Question: Does the Avengers(any of the teams)have a "no kill" rule?
I remember back before Bendis(who really seems to love making Clint into "The Killer") and Disassembled they had a rule in their charter and whenever someone killed they pretty much held a trial.
I remember back before Bendis(who really seems to love making Clint into "The Killer") and Disassembled they had a rule in their charter and whenever someone killed they pretty much held a trial.
Hes now Alpha though, but I'm not so sure how a Dothraki/Kal Drogo type will last in this environment. I can see Rick's crew making easy work of that whole organization.
And in regards to that, more posturing. Dude
says a lot of things he doesn't mean. None of his people have ever once mentioned him killing their own children. He wouldn't even kill Carl on the spot after he gunned down a bunch of Saviors. Guy is an epic bullshitter to get people to back down.
Aquaman is what did it for you? The art was never good on that book from the jump. The bigger worry is how he is retreading the same stuff from johns run. The black manta thing is nice for new readers but I feel like it is just déjà vu.
Poodlestrike
Banned
I mean, some books aren't going to be able to support it? But some will. We also got 44 pages of fantastic Superman, Green Arrow, and Detective Comics over the last 30 days. idk.
16/31 are double shipped I believe. Not including the rebirth one shots.
I expect those books to keep double shipping, but that's a small sample size.
Pretty much. The books that can't support can easily switch to one month. There is so much room and gloom about DC that it is weird. We focusing on Aquaman out of the 5 books released this week?
Edit: I think after the first arc or after this year ends we will see some changes for sure.
Him approving of Rick's "Military Group" down from his cell was a good heads up as well. Hell, he could have escaped when they left his celldoor open and he didn't. Still, I'm surprised. I never expected him to change like this and play second fiddle to Rick. Essentially he will be Rick's attack dog. Interesting times.
I mean, Maggie won't be too thrilled with the prospect of Negan walking around freely.
I mean, Maggie won't be too thrilled with the prospect of Negan walking around freely.
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