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[BrightLightLava]

A lot of that stuff can be changed, like Tony Stark creating Ultron.

True, but it would be a shame. I love the completely batshit comicbookyness of it Billy and Tommy's backstory. Robot and his wife have babies (that the wife created with magic) and then a demon steals their souls and they get implanted on other children? That's good stuff.

 

[Sandfox]

"The “main” Dick Grayson has somehow never been killed off before, despite Dan Didio specifically wanting to kill him off in Infinite Crisis"

fuck dan didio

Damian has become the prodigal son so Dick better watch his back lol.

 

[Freezasaurus]

fuck dan didio

And there's the title of our August thread.

 

[Brianimaniac]

True, but it would be a shame. I love the completely batshit comicbookyness of it Billy and Tommy's backstory. Robot and his wife have babies (that the wife created with magic) and then a demon steals their souls and they get implanted on other children? That's good stuff.

Movies don't have time for that kind of stuff. That works for comics where it has room to breathe.

 

[Sandfox]

And there's the title of our August thread.

And Alan Moore's catchphrase.

 

[echoshifting]

Dick's days are numbered. Didio's been gunning for him for a long, long time.

 

[Crimson_Echidna]

People on Twitter were bitching about LGBT representation literally two books into the current wave of announcements, which I think is pretty ridiculous, but what's more ridiculous is that everything has leaked now and there's still no prominent LGBT book.

That's a bad look. Prowler and Solo have books, and it's blindingly obvious that those will be cancelled immediately. There are people out there saying an America Chavez book would be important to them. Who is Prowler important to?

I'm a straight white man in my 30s, so Marvel has always spoken to me, but it's gotten to the point where I'm getting frustrated on behalf of others. Marvel has willfully ignored a vocal group of fans that need to heard for so long that it makes me wonder if there's active homophobia going on here and not just editors being out of touch.

Not that I disagree with you, butyou constantly have comic book readers, especially on CBR and Reddit, complaining about "legacy heroes" claiming up and down that they'd support an original minority character so Prowler would be their chance to put their money where their mouths are.

 

[Brianimaniac]

And Alan Moore's catchphrase.

Alan Moore's catchphrase is "why bother reading comics when you can save time by just assuming they're shit?"

 

[Sandfox]

Dick's days are numbered. Didio's been gunning for him for a long, long time.

I don't really understand what DC has been doing with Dick despite his books being well written.

Not that I disagree with you, butyou constantly have comic book readers, especially on CBR and Reddit, complaining about "legacy heroes" claiming up and down that they'd support an original minority character so Prowler would be their chance to put their money where their mouths are.

Those same people will call that new hero's book unappealing and won't try it.

 

[Freezasaurus]

And Alan Moore's catchphrase.

Yeah, but DC really did fuck him over good on Watchmen.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Dick's days are numbered. Didio's been gunning for him for a long, long time.

remember his original pitch for Infinite Crisis 2 where Dick Grayson was supposed to go down a dark path and emerge as Batman's greatest nemesis

He did dissolve the Lois and Clark marriage with Nu52, so I mean anything is possible

 

[echoshifting]

Those same people will call that new hero's book unappealing and won't try it.

In fairness to those people, the creative team on Prowler isn't anywhere near as interesting or exciting as the creative on the merc books.

If that was the next Warren Ellis character revival, for instance, people would buy it (though I'm sure he gets to be a little choosy)

 

[Sandfox]

In fairness to those people, the creative team on Prowler isn't anywhere near as interesting or exciting as the creative on the merc books.

If that was the next Warren Ellis character revival, for instance, people would buy it (though I'm sure he gets to be a little choosy)

I was talking about minority characters in general.

 

[frye]

Dick's days are numbered. Didio's been gunning for him for a long, long time.

he got fake-killed in Forever Evil to satisfy Didio's bloodlust but I'm 99% Didio wanted him real-killed there

 

[echoshifting]

he got fake-killed in Forever Evil to satisfy Didio's bloodlust but I'm 99% Didio wanted him real-killed there

No doubt in my mind. Always kinda wondered who turned out to be the voice of reason in that room.

 

[frye]

No doubt in my mind. Always kinda wondered who turned out to be the voice of reason in that room.

I wanna say it was Johns?

 

[echoshifting]

I wanna say it was Johns?

Yeah, that makes sense

 

[Freezasaurus]

he got fake-killed in Forever Evil to satisfy Didio's bloodlust but I'm 99% Didio wanted him real-killed there

Did he die in Injustice? I don't remember.

 

[Sandfox]

I wanna say it was Johns?

And now he's gone so Didio can do whatever he wants.

Did he die in Injustice? I don't remember.

He died in the lamest way possible.

 

[frye]

i didn't read Injustice but didn't he like... fall down awkwardly or something

 

[tim1138]

I wanna say it was Johns?

Johns was also behind him going back to the classic blue and black costume for Nightwing Rebirth.

 

[Freezasaurus]

i didn't read Injustice but didn't he like... fall down awkwardly or something

Must have been a fatal hip fracture.

 

[Brianimaniac]

Can the current Tomasi run on Superman be read without reading any previous books or other Rebirth Superman books?

 

[ViewtifulJC]

He died in the lamest way possible.

ayy lmao

 

[echoshifting]

Can the current Tomasi run on Superman be read without reading any previous books or other Rebirth Superman books?

Sure, I say go for it. All I read to prep was Superman 52 and you don't even need that really. Just start with the Rebirth issue.

ayy lmao

omg lmao

Is that real

Did that actually happen

 

[Busaiku]

I think reading Convergence Superman and Lois & Clark is worth it.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

got em with the old Million Dollar Baby

 

[VanWinkle]

So has DiDio brought up wanting to kill off Dick Grayson multiple times, or just in the Infinite Crisis proposal?

ayy lmao

I actually didn't laugh at that while I was reading it. It made me mad.

 

[Freezasaurus]

ayy lmao

LOL I remember now. Oh man.

 

[mreddie]

Its sad because Margurite Bennett was doing great work pushing Angela forward and giving her a purpose and then you see something like that quote and you can just feel the pushback she was getting from them. She tweeted something to the effect that she was never allowed to explicitly say they were gay and so on so forth.

IT WON A GLAAD AWARD!

 

[Sou Da]

Damn Marvel get it together.

Never before seen unused Hickman pitches.

 

[Freezasaurus]

IT WON A GLAAD AWARD!

An alleged GLAAD award, according to Marvel.

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

So I needed to add something more to fill out my IST order. So I decided to listen to JC's recommendation.

BERSERK TP VOL 34
BERSERK TP VOL 37
KABUKI LIBRARY HC VOL 03
TALES OF THE BATMAN ALAN BRENNERT HC

 

[Sandfox]

Damn Marvel get it together.

Never before seen unused Hickman pitches.

Ewing is slowing bringing us the second book and I would hope the Spider ones aren't related because I don't think Peter could take that kind of betrayal from Johnny.

 

[LordOfLore]

CWII #3 pics floating around on tumblr(like here for instance if you don't care about spoilers).

The "surprise" death is

Spoiler

of course Bruce Banner by Hawkeye because Bendis sucks at hiding stuff and loves making Clint the "killer" avenger in everything he does.

I'm going to bed now. Have fun while Europe sleeps!

 

[PsychBat!]

CWII #3 pics floating around on tumblr(like here for instance if you don't care about spoilers).

The "surprise" death is

Spoiler

of course Bruce Banner by Hawkeye because Bendis sucks at hiding stuff.

Sigh

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

YOOOO amulet vol 1 is $2 on CMX. My nephew loves these books. I gotta try it out for that price.

I've heard good things

https://www.comixology.com/Amulet-1-The-Stonekeeper/digital-comic/67292?ref=YnJvd3NlL3NhbGUvdGFibGV0L2dyaWRMaXN0L2ZyZWVDb21pY3NMaXN0MTIxMjc

 

[ElNarez]

CWII #3 pics floating around on tumblr(like here for instance if you don't care about spoilers).

The "surprise" death is

Spoiler

of course Bruce Banner by Hawkeye because Bendis sucks at hiding stuff and loves making Clint the "killer" avenger in everything he does.

Spoiler

Uh. I'm pretty sure Hawkeye is the one who always bites it in Bendis events. Like, it's become a running gag to this point.

 

[Sou Da]

Spoiler

Uh. I'm pretty sure Hawkeye is the one who always bites it in Bendis events. Like, it's become a running gag to this point.

Spoiler

Bendis had Tony say that he was surprised Clint hadn't died yet. That pretty much made him safe.

 

[mreddie]

CWII #3 pics floating around on tumblr(like here for instance if you don't care about spoilers).

The "surprise" death is

Spoiler

of course Bruce Banner by Hawkeye because Bendis sucks at hiding stuff and loves making Clint the "killer" avenger in everything he does.

I'm going to bed now. Have fun while Europe sleeps!

Fuck off Bendis.

 

[Sandfox]

CWII #3 pics floating around on tumblr(like here for instance if you don't care about spoilers).

The "surprise" death is

Spoiler

of course Bruce Banner by Hawkeye because Bendis sucks at hiding stuff and loves making Clint the "killer" avenger in everything he does.

I'm going to bed now. Have fun while Europe sleeps!

Spoiler

I like how everyone is acting all smug over this when Clint and Banner was like their third guess months after we found out someone was going to die.

 

[LordOfLore]

Spoiler

Uh. I'm pretty sure Hawkeye is the one who always bites it in Bendis events. Like, it's become a running gag to this point.

Spoiler

Yes, but he ALSO loves having Clint be the first one to come up with plans that involves killing, the one who asks if he should take out the villain while he's talking etc. In his mind Clint and Wolverine are the avengers who're on the team to do the hard choices when no one else can or are willing. With Wolverine that makes sense and was even the reason Warlock had him and Hulk on the Infinity Gauntlet team way back but with Clint it's only Bendis that treats him that way.

 

[Messi]

Where is Kabuki in This list? Looks like you have a typo there.

Also WW by Rucka is amazing

I don't like the look of kabuki at all

 

[echoshifting]

Must...not....click...

 

[ViewtifulJC]

I don't like the look of kabuki at all

racist...

 

[BKatastrophe]

Uncanny X-men #1 was...ok. Just a setup issue but I like the idea. Land's art wasnt terrible or anything, it hust has that Land-stink to it, particulary the faces (Monet espevially). I liked the look of the villains at the end. So do we even know why Warren is brain-dead, was that a pre-SW thing? Last I remember from him was he was normal Angel with no memories?

It's a knockoff of Remender's UXF with worse writing and Land's art for the first arc. Lashley takes over for the second arc, which makes the book significantly more enjoyable, but it's still a poor knockoff with stupid continuity gaps and changes that I, personally, think are poorly implemented.

It's easily the worst X-book

so, hey, Geoff Johns is co-writing the Wonder Woman movie with Allan Heinberg, that's new

http://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...arner-Bros.-Pictures-Brings-Heroes-Magic-Myth

But isn't it already in the production phase?

Man, I would've paid for a Hickman New Mutants book.

"LOCKJAW AND BLACKBOLT DON'T NEED LETTERERS"?!

Has Kurtis Wiebe actually found someone new for Rat Queens?? This seems to be a test?



Her other art:

Oh wow. That looks super awesome. I'd need to see interiors, but I already like it better than Tess Fowler.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/a...gela-to-hel-entering-x-mens-extraordinary-era

AXEL

I guess there's always the Icemen but we don't know what the hell is going on with the X-Men and they really haven't done nearly as much with that as they said they were going to anyway.

edit: Oh right I forgot about Pod.

Iceman is still boring as fuck. Golly gee, who knew that making a character gay didn't automatically make them interesting?

"The “main” Dick Grayson has somehow never been killed off before, despite Dan Didio specifically wanting to kill him off in Infinite Crisis"

fuck dan didio

Well he did get Bludhaven nuked

remember his original pitch for Infinite Crisis 2 where Dick Grayson was supposed to go down a dark path and emerge as Batman's greatest nemesis

Oh fuck that. Dick is a cool character because he's better. He's evolved into someone who isn't a hero out of pain and anguish, but out if a desire to do good. Making him Batman's darkest and greatest nemesis is full on character assassination.

Fuck DiDio

I assume Johns kept it from happening. Same in Forever Evil. Dude loves his legacies.

 

[Messi]

If you guys openly spoil this civil war death so help me.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

You'll what? Complain about it in the thread and TheFlow will just say "lol "

just like every week

 

[Brianimaniac]

Event deaths are so boring. I would have a stronger reaction to someone breaking their arm.

 

[Freezasaurus]

Is the theme of Civil War II simply having someone die every issue?