Gipsy Danger
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Superman's a cool dude. He's just poorly written far too often.
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Superman's a cool dude. He's just poorly written far too often.
Shin Johnpv
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GrandHarrier
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Yes but for whatever reason him being op doesn't bother me. Then again I find Thor incredibly likable.
Just bought :
Catwoman Vol 2 by Brubaker
Locke and Key Vol 3 HC
Trial of Jeeeeaaaaan Grey HC
Zatanna and Black Canary Bloodspell
Gotham Central Vol 3
Good stuffs?
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
I kinda hate Nu Young Kewl Superman 52, tbph
Rrongfield
Member
The future is in your hands now Rafa.
dark_inferno
Member
Best written in Injustice and Red Son.
Gipsy Danger
Member
First issue of each is free. I'll check those out and pick up more should they take my fancy.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
All-Star Superman is my favorite. Excellent book.
Ok so for the, let's be real, zero people that are interested in the struggles of an ex-comic reader wanting back in... I had a revelation. The stupidest and most obvious of all I warn you.
But for why I tended to buy way too many comics here's just a brief 'reasons why'.
- I first discovered comic in a French comic shop. Me and a pal used to pay a fucking premium, cover price + store fee.
- Then we discovered Mile High Comics, cover price + shipping. That was good. We ordered more.
- Then we discovered DCBS, insane discounts at the time + shipping. It was ugly.
And I think this explain a little why I've got such a hard time getting back in and in part why I have this OCD in regards to buying lots of comics... because we fucking could !
Then back to yesterday, when after several attempt at making a list I realized that even with the help of DCBS or IST there is no way in hell I will be able to buy all the things that interest me. Cover price is through the roof. I was still in the 200$ for a bunch of TPB / HC. And while I have no numbers at hand I'm pretty certain that I could have easily ordered this two times over in the days of yore.
I'm really sad about the state in which I find this industry. Not quality-wise evidently. But the prices, the over production, the myriad of alternate foil shit covers...
I guess my only option will be to play smart.
The plan (subject to change) is :
- No Marvel, just a Marvel Unlimited sub.
- The very minimum DC Comics.
- Have some fun with Image / Dark Horse / Dynamite / Boom / Valliant / Fantagraphix.
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Yeah the last point looks like trouble budget-wise. I'm fubar, boo last point !
But for why I tended to buy way too many comics here's just a brief 'reasons why'.
- I first discovered comic in a French comic shop. Me and a pal used to pay a fucking premium, cover price + store fee.
- Then we discovered Mile High Comics, cover price + shipping. That was good. We ordered more.
- Then we discovered DCBS, insane discounts at the time + shipping. It was ugly.
And I think this explain a little why I've got such a hard time getting back in and in part why I have this OCD in regards to buying lots of comics... because we fucking could !
Then back to yesterday, when after several attempt at making a list I realized that even with the help of DCBS or IST there is no way in hell I will be able to buy all the things that interest me. Cover price is through the roof. I was still in the 200$ for a bunch of TPB / HC. And while I have no numbers at hand I'm pretty certain that I could have easily ordered this two times over in the days of yore.
I'm really sad about the state in which I find this industry. Not quality-wise evidently. But the prices, the over production, the myriad of alternate foil shit covers...
I guess my only option will be to play smart.
The plan (subject to change) is :
- No Marvel, just a Marvel Unlimited sub.
- The very minimum DC Comics.
- Have some fun with Image / Dark Horse / Dynamite / Boom / Valliant / Fantagraphix.
...
Yeah the last point looks like trouble budget-wise. I'm fubar, boo last point !
dark_inferno
Member
Havent read that yet. But have it on my list. Im not a fan of Superman either. But good writers can make him very interesting.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Don't let anyone ever tell you it is not possible to read everything.....
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Easily.
Best, GROWN UP, Superman. Even Moz can't save the idea of a younger Superman. I've been trying to make my way through his Action Comics run for like three years now. I'm up to #4.
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I sure won't tell anyone it isn't possible to read a LOT of comics. I used to do it.
If memory serves, 10 years ago I was reading a good chunk of DC / Marvel / Image. And I still had a little money for 1-2 TPB. Now if I do the same again I will have to find how you clone kidneys.
Edit - But what's funny is my rant is awfully looking like what some shop owner told me years ago.
Shop Owner - "I used to read 99% of what Marvel published".
Me - "How can he do that ???"
ViewtifulJC
Banned
you got further than me
GrandHarrier
Member
I channel my own personal OCD into a single pet project; in my case, the Legion. I've been working on getting as full of a run as feasible. That makes ignoring other stuff much, much easier because I always have this one project to work on.
I had to get a new job before I could get back into comics again, ha. Now I have a bit more "disposable" income I can take a few chances with titles, have found some really good stuff because of it. I'm definitely feeling it when there's weeks with lots of releases I'm pulling though.
dark_inferno
Member
Just focus on stuff thats interesting and that got well recieved. If you find something interesting thats not well recieved... skip it. You find something thats well recieved but dont find it interesting? Skip it.
Thats what i do. I lose alot of money per month (Like my third month buying comics) but thats only because i want to read all that good and interesting stuff thats out there. When i hear that one comic gets only 6 issues i skip it instantly like with Trees. I bought the first issue but thats about it.
Gonna wait for that TPB.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Anyone ever read Adventure Time #25?
A perfect comic book.
A perfect comic book.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
That run is completely flawed, and very fractured but both of you should just read Action Comics # 9. It's a standalone story of Earth-23 (pretty sure it's '23') Superman. It's honestly one of the best Superman stories I've read, and it's all done in that single issue. It has nothing to do with the rest of that run, and it has everything to do with a black President Superman.
That and the Krypto issue (12 or 13 I think) are both worth reading on their own. The Krypto issue was one of my favorite comics that year.
I just reread them again. The first major arc is pretty much all about Myxy but the problem is you have to wade through a lot of very standard and rather unadventurous stuff to get to the good bits. Double figure issues. Morrison was playing the long game. Eventually though Morrison remembers who he is and it actually gets very good.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
I'm totally with you there. Those two, along with Issue 0, the story with the boy stealing Supes' cape, are fucking fantastic. Also, Travel Foreman did the Krypto issue, which made me enjoy it that much more.
Check your local libraries for comics and graphic novels as well. Tim swears by them.
Rrongfield
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Quoted for emphasis.
Everyo e should try this out. Even if you hate Transformers. MTMTE is the single best Transformers thing ever.(Beast Wars comes close)
You don't even need background knowledge since most of it is explained in there. And a big chunk of the cast is composed of C and D listers anyway.
ThyMusicMan
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If the run has other arcs as good as 'The Great Darkness Saga', that's not a bad pet project !
Mhh, a job you say ? How I wish I had that little disposable income. Not specific to comics, I'm not mad, but a just little more money a month can go a long way to change how you approach life.
You make a good point, Trees is one of the new comics I'm really excited to read, Warren Ellis, man. But if it's meant to be a short series it might be good to wait for a nice collected edition.
That leads me to ask, has Ellis done some great work while I was gone ? I quit comics near Nextwave, but I got the feeling that he didn't produce has much these last few years because he write novels now. There was some steampunk thing at Avatar Press, some gory super hero things too, but apart from that I haven't a clue.
I'm French, so library-wise it will be just the odd bunch of translated comics or nothing. Not an option. But hey, on another hand, it's less option for me to hesitate on ^o^
Freezasaurus
Member
Messi, if you've experienced Brubaker Catwoman and continue to buy Nocenti Catwoman, there is no hope for you.
I love Brubaker Catwoman. I buy Nocenti Catwoman in hopes of getting a better book. I am close to breaking point though
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Damn. Oversize omnibus that shit for him.
Buying the current crap only reinforces that it will sell. To get a better book you need to stop buying it.
I actually really liked the first two issues of Morrisons Action run. It felt different and new and exactly like the kind of thing I was hoping for from the New 52 stuff. My two favorite issues of the run, along with the Krypton stuff. I understand if the run as a whole wasn't for everyone.
You're overthinking this and overwhelming yourself. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh. Here's what I would do if I were you. Pick one trade paperback (not an omnibus, hardcover, special limited edition whathaveyou, just a paperback). Just one. And start reading that. I still stand by my suggestion of the first volume of new 52 Batman (Court of Owls) by Scott Snyder. If you've already read what my suggestion, have a go at Saga vol. 1 by Brian K. Vaughan. Whichever one you pick, read it and if you enjoy it, get the volumes of trades that follow them thereafter.
I was building up quite a backlog because I wanted to read everything! I used to have 40-50 unread trades and now I'm down to 12 or so, and at the same time, I had around 80 unread floppies but now it's down to 10 (I'm basically week-to-week now). My problem was that I was creating list after list of what I should read next. Instead, I just grabbed an unread trade off of my shelf and went at it.
phazedplasma
Member
His Secret Avengers run was pretty inspired, especially after the Brubaker/Deodato shitfest.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
There are some decent stand alone series in DC and Marvel, but they're trying to commit you as many ongoings as possible. After feeling like I should be reading key titles, it was liberating to finally give up and abandon most superhero universe characters/titles and just pick and chose the occasional stand alone. Too much good stuff out there to be brand loyal. You really can't read everything, and loyalty is just a sucker sell.
We've been over this many times. I say I won't buy it, I tell myself not to buy it. But I end up owning it. It's the only bad book I tolerate.
It's like looking at a slow motion car wreck right now.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
I may have to reread Morrison's Action Comics soon, because t-shirt, jeans, and boots Clark is, to this day, my favorite redesign of any character. Maybe another issue will jump out as being great.
dark_inferno
Member
Warren Ellis current run on Moon Knight is fantastic. TPB should be out in 2 months.
Also if you are french i recommend you to read Elfes Chapter/Issue/Book 3. A really good story and im happy that it was translated into german.
Just pick your favourite Marvel/DC Character and go with him alone. The best you can do. And dont start picking up Avengers or Xmen. There are like 10 ongoing series right now.
Spike Spiegel
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There's a part of me that hopes Johns is just trolling everybody and that, as someone elsewhere suggested as a joke, his new Power Ring was just teased as a kid by playground bullies and she never got over it.
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But he's probably trolling of a different sort, and it's exactly what you think because "how do you like them apples pls respond."
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But he's probably trolling of a different sort, and it's exactly what you think because "how do you like them apples pls respond."
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Kevin Wada, you guys
https://twitter.com/kevinwada/status/481476371558842369
https://twitter.com/kevinwada/status/481476371558842369
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
This is bad advice. Never follow characs. Always follow creators.
dark_inferno
Member
Why? If i love Deadpool why shouldnt i read him monthly?
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
What if a bad writer is writing it? It wouldn't be the Deadpool you like. That's what makes it bad writing.
GrandHarrier
Member
Do both my friend! I'm not sure Benjamin actually cares about any one particular character.
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