LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
The answer: very deep.
Seriously, the lack of a solo Harley book means she's got to be in there somewhere other than SS. She's too popular.
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The answer: very deep.
Seriously, the lack of a solo Harley book means she's got to be in there somewhere other than SS. She's too popular.
She has a solo title in rebirth by Jimmy and Amanda. Double shipped (which BTW they have been doing for months sometimes triple shipped)
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I'd love it. She already had the red ring.
She should also be in Trinity with Batman and Superman.
KoruptData
Member
Time to rate Snyders Batman stories. For me.
1. Zero Year
2. DotF/Endgame
3. Court of Owls
4. Super Heavy
1. Zero Year
2. DotF/Endgame
3. Court of Owls
4. Super Heavy
Freezasaurus
Member
What? The Clayface story didn't make the cut!?
Exactly. Except we pretend Valiant doesn't exist.
Fancy Clown
Member
1. Court of Owls
2. Zero Year
3. Death of the Family
4. Endgame
5. Superheavy
I flip flop on Court and Zero Year as number 1 since they're both really good for different reasons , and whether or not I like Death or Endgame better. I don't really like the start of Endgame, and there's genreally too much techno bullshit stuff in that arc, but Joker is amazing in it and shit gets so crazy. The backups are good too.
2. Zero Year
3. Death of the Family
4. Endgame
5. Superheavy
I flip flop on Court and Zero Year as number 1 since they're both really good for different reasons , and whether or not I like Death or Endgame better. I don't really like the start of Endgame, and there's genreally too much techno bullshit stuff in that arc, but Joker is amazing in it and shit gets so crazy. The backups are good too.
Discotheque
Banned
i haven't read 4 or 5 yet but the first 3's ranking is spot on.
WadiumArcadium
Member
I'd say:
1) Court of Owls
2) Zero Year
3) Death of the Family
4) Endgame
5) Superheavy (though I still haven't finished it yet so it might go up a bit)
1) Court of Owls
2) Zero Year
3) Death of the Family
4) Endgame
5) Superheavy (though I still haven't finished it yet so it might go up a bit)
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
1) Death of the Family
2) Court of Owls
3) Endgame
4) Zero Year (never finished :|)
5) Superheavy
2) Court of Owls
3) Endgame
4) Zero Year (never finished :|)
5) Superheavy
Why?
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
It was around the time I took a hiatus from comics. I own the hardcovers, though.
Poodlestrike
Banned
1) Zero Year
2) Court of Owls
3) Endgame
4) Superheavy
5) Death of the Family
Today's the day.
Phil, go finish Zero Year, it's the weekend so surely you have nothing better to do. It's frankly my favorite take on the origin story ever.
Death of the Family is just kinda mediocre. It's a SAW movie featuring The Joker. Naw.
2) Court of Owls
3) Endgame
4) Superheavy
5) Death of the Family
Today's the day.
Phil, go finish Zero Year, it's the weekend so surely you have nothing better to do. It's frankly my favorite take on the origin story ever.
Death of the Family is just kinda mediocre. It's a SAW movie featuring The Joker. Naw.
Mangoverboard
Banned
BvS has me in the mood for Morrison's JLA, anyone have the deluxe hard covers? Worth it? Can't find half my old issues.
The BvS threads on here read like people weren't paying attention, or can't put 2 and 2 together
The BvS threads on here read like people weren't paying attention, or can't put 2 and 2 together
KoruptData
Member
Surprised you guys are seperating DotF and Endgame as they are one big story arc separated by some time. Went DotF>Zero Year>Endgame.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Going to see the movie tho
Fancy Clown
Member
They each have a beginning, middle, and end. Even if they are thematically linked, and Endgame acts as a sequel of sorts, they're seperate arcs.
I thought Endgame was significantly weaker :/
Poodlestrike
Banned
Honestly, they're both Joker stories, and they've goth got a very strong horror bent to them, but other than that they're just so different. My strongest visual memory of each is... in DotF, the Joker got a hanging tapestry made of living people he's stitched together. In Endgame, Batman has a giant mecha he whales on Superman with. They're very different stories. Endgame is more of a sequel than a continuation.
Oh well I guess that works.
KoruptData
Member
It's one story. You don't have Endgame without DotF. Every one of Jokers motivations were because of the events in DotF. They should be considered as a whole. Every big Snyder story has been 2 trade volumes.
If they collected an Absoltue Court of Owls, they will have an Absolute Zero Year and an Absolute DotF/Endgame.
Yeah but I am OK with Death being the end of it. I really wish he didn't come back and do Endgame.
All of Snyders batman is one big story imo.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
I tried to read it, got to one of those Snyder wikipedia dumps (I think it was about bugs? I forget), and gave up.
I totally know the info dump you are talking about. He is the worst for that lol.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
They're definitely worth it, although I think they might be out of print? The hardcovers anyway, I know the paperbacks exist.
They have gotten very pricy, I would have bought them already, but the second Volume goes for >100
Fancy Clown
Member
The info dumps generally make sense for the most part I think. Like in Court of Owls the whole point of the story is Batman doesn't know the city as well as he thinks he does (and that's a recurring theme through the whole run) so the contrast between his very fact based narrations and his shortcomings in what's going on around him work to the narrative.
But yeah, he definitely goes too far with it at times especially in the later arcs. Like the end of Superheavy is just him straight up spelling out all the themes for the reader in almost every dialogue balloon and narration box.
I didn't like the first two issues of Endgame because of this as well, just way too much time spent on him describing the ludicrously bullshit techno contrivances he's pulled out of his ass to fight the Justice League. Mini red Suns? Gimme a break.
But yeah, he definitely goes too far with it at times especially in the later arcs. Like the end of Superheavy is just him straight up spelling out all the themes for the reader in almost every dialogue balloon and narration box.
I didn't like the first two issues of Endgame because of this as well, just way too much time spent on him describing the ludicrously bullshit techno contrivances he's pulled out of his ass to fight the Justice League. Mini red Suns? Gimme a break.
Absolutely
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I love info dumps. It saves me the trouble of looking things up myself.
KoruptData
Member
BvS made me buy the first 3 volumes of Morrisons JLA on CMX. I own the 4th in TPB. Bought it solely for the Tower of Babel story. Excited to start reading them.
Freezasaurus
Member
That said, I'm much more interested to see what Snyder and Capullo do next. They did some great Batman stories, and I'd really like to see them give this treatment to another big franchise like Justice League. I've been enjoying Darkseid War, but if any book needs some new blood, it's that one.
Fancy Clown
Member
Isn't capullo doing something with Mark Millar next and Snyder working on a different Batman book?
Freezasaurus
Member
I think Snyder is writing Detective next.
The hardcovers are out of print, but you can still get them in paperback or on Comixology
Freezasaurus
Member
Digital option is best option.
I watched those Robert Valley WW shorts. Pretty damn slick. Then I bought the Robert Valley Art of War Wonder Woman statue. Amazon dropped it down to $44 and then I used some Amazon points to get her down to cheap.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
I got all of Morrison's JLA on sale last year. It's on my list of things to read lol
Also have Brubaker's Catwoman which I also need to start
Also have Brubaker's Catwoman which I also need to start
That statue looks great in person, I got it for my wife as a Christmas gift last year.
I would love to see a miniseries or digital first series based on those shorts, it was so stylish and cool.
I only need Batman Books. They should sell the rest to Valiant.
Schweinehund
Member
I don't have the deluxe hardcovers but I know they practically collected all of the issues under "JLA TP Vol" label, including Morrison, McDuffy, Waid, Kelley and Busiek.
Yes people seem to be missing important plot details but I'm not completely blaming them, it moves at a very brisk pace and the plot threads aren't necessarily woven together at the same time, as it jumps around a lot.
Poodlestrike
Banned
He was doing detective, didn't want to double ship so he dropped out
I thought he confirmed that as not true?
What he basically tweeted wasn't going to give any hints. And that he only responded because he wanted to not mislead anyone.