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COMICS! |OT| May 2016. Let's Do It. Let's Fall in Love.
- Thread starter Tyrant Rave
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lawd Manhattan Projects, 3 more issues to go but... this was SO GOOD. And lo,
Yeah this is definitely one of the best Image series I've read
at the end of the Oppenheimer Civil War, with Robert finally having won the battle, he gets shot in the face by time-travelling Albert 'The Barbarian' Einstein.
Yeah this is definitely one of the best Image series I've read
Glad you enjoyed it. I might give it a re-read myself.
Discotheque
Banned
free comic book day was a bust. everything was pretty much taken except for this lumberjanes thing. grabbed that knowing nothing about it.
Tony was never wrong not in the comic nor the movie.
At 2pm EDT orders open up for the new Radiohead album. Just as FYI for those interested.
Also, happy Mother's Day to all of our mothers in comic GAF. All 0 of them.
Howard The Duck is amazing, that is all.
You won
Also, happy Mother's Day to all of our mothers in comic GAF. All 0 of them.
Howard The Duck is amazing, that is all.
You won
He was wrong in the comics, but it was due to poor writing rather than intent.
He was absolutely wrong in the comics. He veers into supervillain several times through that event and gives zero shits to what his actions do to the people around him. Total asshole that had to have his memory wiped so they could move him forward from the shit heap event.
Well,
except for the part where he kills the audio on the surveillance feed in the Raft to get Zemo's location from Falcon, thus acting outside of the law, thus proving Cap right, in that you need to stay independant from The Man to get things done right. And since that particular ideological conflict is what the film is nominally about, Tony is completely wrong.
The movie doesn't acknowledge it, or tries to see how to work from there, because it thinks, in my opinion erroneously, that we'll think less of Tony as a character and a movie franchise if he's shown to be completely wrong, because that would go against its central belief that The Avengers are inherently good and right.
It's one of the many things that, to me, make the movie a lot less interesting, or essential, because it's afraid to say something, no matter how mild. Compare and contrast with Winter Soldier, which says "mass surveillance and the idea of security above individual liberties is very close to fascism, so maybe don't fetishize it so much huh Joss Whedon". Even with the cop-out of "Actually HYDRA did all the bad things", there's still something there, a core belief, and the closest thing to it I found in Civil War is "Shit happens, and you gotta take responsibilty for it maybe?", which, that's super thin.
(I'm not even gonna go into comparing it to BvS, because, while I know some day you will see the light on how this movie is Actually Good, I also know that day is not today)
The movie doesn't acknowledge it, or tries to see how to work from there, because it thinks, in my opinion erroneously, that we'll think less of Tony as a character and a movie franchise if he's shown to be completely wrong, because that would go against its central belief that The Avengers are inherently good and right.
It's one of the many things that, to me, make the movie a lot less interesting, or essential, because it's afraid to say something, no matter how mild. Compare and contrast with Winter Soldier, which says "mass surveillance and the idea of security above individual liberties is very close to fascism, so maybe don't fetishize it so much huh Joss Whedon". Even with the cop-out of "Actually HYDRA did all the bad things", there's still something there, a core belief, and the closest thing to it I found in Civil War is "Shit happens, and you gotta take responsibilty for it maybe?", which, that's super thin.
(I'm not even gonna go into comparing it to BvS, because, while I know some day you will see the light on how this movie is Actually Good, I also know that day is not today)
Schweinehund
Member
I'm actually reading through it right now for the first time, after having read Peter David's Young Justice
Which was solid, but not anything to write home about. It was fun seeing the characters grow, but no story was really defining for me
I always thought the Tim/Kon shipping was a fan invention, but after reading it, man there are some under tones. Feel like Kon is more emotionally attached to Tim than Cassie. I still don't see the Hal/Sinestro that some people push. Maybe Sinestro is obsessed with Hal but it's pretty one way.
Fatale - Book Three: West of Hell
Didn't expect the narrative format to take a break to tell episodic tales across history to give more context to the larger scheme of things, but I'm glad they did. I love short story formats for scifi and fantasy worlds, and this nailed it so well. The first story is classic Lovecraft and ends terribly for everyone involved, while the second story reminded me of vintage European horror comics. Obviously a strong inspiration for Brubaker and Philips.
The last two stories though... oh man. It was like being taken back to Secret Avengers all over again. The Wild West and WW2 being connected by a character who exists across time trying to solve a conspiracy beyond human imagination. I wonder if his run on Secret Avengers served as a prototype for parts of Fatale. Mmmmm.
Didn't expect the narrative format to take a break to tell episodic tales across history to give more context to the larger scheme of things, but I'm glad they did. I love short story formats for scifi and fantasy worlds, and this nailed it so well. The first story is classic Lovecraft and ends terribly for everyone involved, while the second story reminded me of vintage European horror comics. Obviously a strong inspiration for Brubaker and Philips.
The last two stories though... oh man. It was like being taken back to Secret Avengers all over again. The Wild West and WW2 being connected by a character who exists across time trying to solve a conspiracy beyond human imagination. I wonder if his run on Secret Avengers served as a prototype for parts of Fatale. Mmmmm.
Nah he was right in the comics, he was just turned into a mustache twirling Villian so Cap would be right.
Same thing happened in Hickman's Avengers run, when Cap and Shield confronts them about destorying planets during the incursions.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
FCBD was a huge success by me. Got one of everything, plus a few things from last year that the store owner found in the back. Got every comic available for 2016. Friend snagged the last copy of Alpha King, so I'll be borrowing that at some point.
Also, I need some suggestions for stuff similar to Saga. Any suggestions?
Also, I need some suggestions for stuff similar to Saga. Any suggestions?
While it's true that Iron Man did have to go outside of the law, that's only because Cap made things so much worse. It still doesn't make oversight a bad thing though. For all his talk of Agendas Cap let's his Bucky Agenda cloud his Judgement and potentially got people killed.
I like BvS, there are parts I'm not a fan of but overall it was solid.
Yes. It's complete in two hardcovers. That's why I bought it!
The Volume 3 thing confused me
The Volume 3 thing confused me
The story is split into 5 arcs. One tpb for each. The first two are in the first hardcover. The last three in the second.
Coriolanus
Banned
...he was wrong during the incursions too? Only persons that were correct during that event were namor and doom, and doom had the xtreme leet wallhack of being Owen's Chosen One.
Tony is usually depicted as being right about the conclusion, but completely wrong about how to get to the conclusion, mostly because he fails to realize how grossly incompetent he himself is, thus, negative zone concentration camps, or, how ewing once pointed out, dude was director of shield for years, with amazing tech and, infinite funds and a global reach, and how did he help advance humanity? He didn't. Quite the opposite, in fact.
He was I mean he helped make the bomb, now he didn't push the button to keep his conciese, but I hated how Cap was spouting we could save everyone in face of the Infinty Guatlet breaking.
Coriolanus
Banned
The real irony about cap is how he's totes cool with killing scores of people in intergalactic war, but destroying a nega-earth because if you don't, both get destroyed? BRIDGE TOO FAR, SEZ I.
Except they meet a group that did just that? You know, the whole "Great Society, fake Superman saying Everything Lives" thing?
Cap has been a self righteous thug for awhile now. Look at Avengers vs X-men.
Coriolanus
Banned
You do recall that the great society mentioned that they couldn't keep doing it, yes? They also shattered their own version of the infinity gems in much the same way as 616
They even had Doctor Not-Fate blow up nega-earths that weren't inhabited.
I mean, the groups wrassled precisely because they couldn't come up with a way to save both earths.
Yeah, but they didn't give up and build fucking planet-bombs
Coriolanus
Banned
my name is ed
Banned
I dreamt I bought some absolutes, got them in the mail, didnt take off the shrink wrap, put them on the shelf and said yeah thats the good stuff.
Why did it feel so real
Why did it feel so real
If you buy an absolute or dark horse library edition that is exactly how it is going to be
Tragicomedy
Member
Comics? Comics!
Archie #8
Batman #52
SOUTHERN BASTARDS #14, y'all!
Lots of good looking Marvel releases this week
Archie #8
Batman #52
SOUTHERN BASTARDS #14, y'all!
Lots of good looking Marvel releases this week
...that I'll read in six months on MU.
Discotheque
Banned
the shamrock shake from mcdonalds should be year-round. it's a travesty how it's only available during a limited time.
Coriolanus
Banned
Hurt and Scared
Member
Anyone reading the current Archie reboot?
I've taken 4-5 year break from comics but I still buy trade paper backs all the time without reading them.
So I've been sick this week and final decided to start working on my backlog and I started with Archie and I love the book the characters,art,story are great.
Jugghead steals the show he's my favourite current character.
I've taken 4-5 year break from comics but I still buy trade paper backs all the time without reading them.
So I've been sick this week and final decided to start working on my backlog and I started with Archie and I love the book the characters,art,story are great.
Jugghead steals the show he's my favourite current character.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
#TeamCap spent the whole movie being wrong
BKatastrophe
Member
Having worked there for a much longer time than I should have, I swear that like, 25% of the entire year's shake sales took place in that one month. Fucking bonkers.
Did not know this. Interesting.
WadiumArcadium
Member
Yeah, it's been a really fun run so far. It was my first time buying any Archie comics but I've really enjoyed it.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
Soon? Hard to say. But it will be on sale digitally before the end of the year probably at least twice. Image at the end of the year always does a publisher wide sale. They also put most of their series on sale multiple times a year.Hmmm... Manhattan Projects is $1.99 per issue digital on Image's site. Any chance there'll be another sale soon where they're at 99 cents?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
let us niggas have our power fantasy characters ok
TheDarkKnight774
Member
I'm in a theater about to watch a movie called Civil War? Haven't heard much buzz about it but I hope it's good. Been a while since I've seen a film about this historical event.
I legit love this dude. Ask Brashear what powers he has and he'll add two more just because. I'm going to work on a cool thread about how they're starting to prep him for MCU, and what they can do to nerf/centralize his powers. I think Ultimates is heading in the right direction. His new costume is dope as fuck.