BenjaminBirdie
Banned
This is like actually offensive.
Rachel was in basically the holocaust.
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COMICS! |OT| November 2016. Wilde for comics, 2 Hickman books this month.
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This is like actually offensive.
Rachel was in basically the holocaust.
It's still good
Of course, it makes total sense Rachel would want to look forward to her future where all her friends and family were systematically killed in camps. Might as well put her back in her old Hound costume while they're at it.
How would that not end well? Fans have been asking for more X-Men for a while and it's not like people are required to read all of them. I also don't see how you can say these books are more of the same when comparing them to the current ongoings.
It's one issue between each arc
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
lmao i didn't even think about it that way holy fuck
I'm not going to pretend I know a lot abouit her backstory, but while those takes place in the future wouldn't that be her past?
well she probably did her fair share of drowning alternate dimentions clones in tanks of water
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
They've spent a lot of time having OML run around saying basically the same thing though.
where they at? I have never seen this. but they are more of the same to me. all they did was just divide the adults from the kids.
how are you going to say double shipping is what fans have been asking for then in the same paragraph say they are not required to read them all. Wouldn't they want to read them? hence the the problem of double shipping. This ain't DC we are talking about. 3 dollars is a long shot.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Hah I won't lie, I was pleased with that. It's probably more topical than either run will be too.
do you really need to learn that watchmen uses a 9-panel grid layout?
like, if you showed how Pandora's death uses the exact same blocking as Rorscharch's, yeah, that's a good detail, but, two pages on the 9-grid? really?
BKatastrophe
Member
And maybe Danger
Should have been Polaris
That's really dark
I'm glad to see how they really understand her character
not
Sure, but it's still a future the world would slowly be moving towards to. Plus the fact that the team roster would be a daily reminder of what lays in store, since aside from Kurt (who was dead), the Gold team are the surviving X-Men in Days of Future Past.
echoshifting
Banned
La la la nothing is going on here everything is fine
Guys I just read the first two issues of Seven to Eternity, Shade and Shipwreck and thought they were all really fucking great comics, that's all I logged in to say
Guys I just read the first two issues of Seven to Eternity, Shade and Shipwreck and thought they were all really fucking great comics, that's all I logged in to say
damn you just now getting to that. Shad #2 was so good, and a improvement over the first issue. Like a lot of the Young animal books the second issue is way easier to follow.
Seven to Eternity #2 gave us a solid backstory, but somehow the actually issue felt average, and like I been down this road before.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
"This deal's getting worse all the time!"
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Thats cool, I was wondering about shipwreck. What exactly is the premise?
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
I'm going to lament. Mutants have no future. All hope is lost.
echoshifting
Banned
I loved the second issue of 72E actually. The Mud King is such a great villain, I would read an entire arc of him throwing shade and making people look foolish. You do have a couple of standard Remender tropes, the daddy issues, a protagonist who seems
marked for death
flaxknuckles
Member
Still too much. They should save it for annuals.
echoshifting
Banned
Mud King reminds me of Thanos. I am just ready to get back to his kids and the interesting world Remender is trying to make. I don't care about this
rag team of randoms who are going to get rekted. take me back to the kids.
So all you're looking at is rosters then when saying they are more of same then. I can understand not liking the writers, but these books are clearly going to be a lot different from the current stuff.
I don't know how you can miss people complaining about there only being 5 X-titles or asking for some of the classic titles to return and using that as ammo in the "Marvel is trying to kill off the mutants" thing. That was the lowest number of titles that brand has been at since forever.
I said that because not all fans are hardcore to the point where they need to buy every book and can just follow their favorites like with every other comic book. In regards to double shipping, the market has clearly spoken on how they feel about that and I wouldn't be surprised if the rest of Marvel line followed in a later part of 2017.
echoshifting
Banned
Shade was my favorite of the three, that is a top shelf comic
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
It turned very quickly into the X-Men comic he would have written if he stayed at Marvel and I love it.
So based on the lineups for these teams I would imagine that the characters featured in the teasers for the others will make up those rosters.
The next one is actually the last of that storyline.
BKatastrophe
Member
As much as I love Claremont X-Men, I'm getting tired of almost half of every X-team consisting of them. I'd be more excited for Gold if they mixed it up.
I'm talking "throw names into a hat and pick seven" mixing it up. Like, throw the name of every living X-Man/New Mutant/X-Factor/X-Force member into a hat and every 5-7 names is a new team.
I'm talking "throw names into a hat and pick seven" mixing it up. Like, throw the name of every living X-Man/New Mutant/X-Factor/X-Force member into a hat and every 5-7 names is a new team.
echoshifting
Banned
I'm trying to read Silver Surfer #6/#200 and Peter Parker's eyes are too green and it's driving me fucking crazy. He better turn out to be a skrull or some shit
Sometimes knowledge is a burden
Sometimes knowledge is a burden
people have been saying marvel is trying to kill of the mutants because that is what's been happening in the main universe for years. Most stories have been about Mutants dying off and trying to rebuild.
If you look in the current OT or here or anywhere actually you can see that this is not what people wanted or expected when Marvel first revealed the relaunch.
Double shipping worked for DC doesn't mean it work for Marvel. It is more of the same.Nothing new is being done or anything crazy hype. Literally the same characters minus a odd ball here or there. like I said in my previous post looks like they just put all the young mutants(OG 5) in one book instead of having them split and then put all the adults unto the gold book.
TL;DR fans have been asking for a return to classic teams/rosters but not this. Double shipping working for company doesn't apply to the other one. especially when sales are lower than expected for a lot of the 2.0 books.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Also, Deadpool 2099 rules
Also, it should be noted the whole point of the original Gold and Blue was to allow room for all the cool X-Men there were. This is leaving like 3/4ths of them off the table. So dumb.
TheBahaBlast
Member
I should have used, boring relaunched extensions of current ongoing titles.
The teams are barely different, All Blue X-Men basically swaps Idie, Evan and X-23 for Mags and Jean
X-Men Gold swaps out Marvel Girl...for Marvel Girl(lol Prestige), Magik for Kitty, and Iceman is...somewhere.
They don't bring anything new to the table and could not have been renamed.
Oh no, young Hitlerclops on a team with Magneto, I wonder if they'll bring up the non terrible things his older self did, only to have Jean lead the team and possibly take on more aspects of Magneto and make her out to be more of a jerk than she already is. Perhaps Beast will fuck up some more with encouragement from Magneto. The possibilities are endless.
sums up how I feel. There are way to many mutants and awesome characters for us to keep going back to the same two teams we had in the 70s. Scratch that. The two 70s teams were more interesting at point value.
Death of X was such a tease when they showed up some of the x-force members :/
this is what I was trying to say. feels more like an extension especially when a large majority of the characters are the same. Maybe they aren't trying to reveal everything till IvsX finishes.
Yeah, it seems super freaking boring that they're effectively like "here's the original X-men team, here's Claremont X-men team (with Rachel swapped in I guess), have fun with that." I guess the idea is "screw it, go back to the old standbys" effectively, but still... I've been rereading Claremont X-men, and one of the best things about it is how much it upended things and just went ahead and created a whole ton of stuff that was brand new. And this definitely doesn't look to be that in the slightest.
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BTW, random Days of Future Past question/comment I forgot to ask: how the hell is it that Franklin Richards goes out like such a chump in that issue? Like, you've got adult Franklin Richards with his power damper off and nope, just a casual Sentinel blast that kills him nonchalantly. Just doesn't feel right at all.
I don't see what Now 2.0's performance has to do with whether or not the X-books double shipping will work. We'll get an idea of how the books perform when they release though so there's no point in keeping this going.
But it's part of the main story
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Ah, yeah I won't bother. Hated that stuff, it was so boring.
Just read the good the bad and the ugly then.
I'm digging this book quite a bit through 2 issues, turns out he needed to make some half decent comics again was to get Opena to draw it!
echoshifting
Banned
This is only two books
"Bad stuff in the spotlight while brilliance and beauty flourishes in the margins" is basically the Marvel Way right now. It is not yet time to despair.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
I will, thanks
Trust me it's not the deadpool you are expecting.
"In regards to double shipping, the market has clearly spoken on how they feel about that and I wouldn't be surprised if the rest of Marvel line followed in a later part of 2017."-Sandfox
you gotta pick a narrative bruh. can't keep backpedaling.
lol u said wut m8. Remender was killing it before 7 eternity.
that happen to be the flagship titles of the rebrand.
LordOfLore
Banned
No like, I'm going to need the Deluxe for my shelf. Never bought a physical issue of it.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Hoping so, he's written the same all the time now, which isn't what I like.
echoshifting
Banned
So? If X-Force and Gen X turn out to be good I'm not gonna be too sad about the direction they went with these two
Well you already said you weren't going to stop reading the titles after what happened with Death of x so quality was never the issue.
Gen x is the last hope we fans got out here
Edit: the flagship titles are definitely going to have an affect on the other titles. X men books love to bleed into each other. So that will always be a looming problem