This was everything to me. I hate Damien, smarmy little shit.
Jon should have knocked his ass out.
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COMICS! |OT| November 2016. Wilde for comics, 2 Hickman books this month.
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This was everything to me. I hate Damien, smarmy little shit.
Freezasaurus
Member
So you're saying Doctor Strange's cloak is a better character than Doctor Strange?
WadiumArcadium
Member
Haha, no. It was a joke.
FUCK JON!
Future Foundation
Member
Was this ever available as a poster?
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
shit you had one job deece
Do we have a defenders production thread? Cause they out here releasing videos and shit.
BrightLightLava
Unconfirmed Member
So okay, I will say straight up: I have not read Champions, Waid is probably out of touch, I can't really discuss the finer points here, so this response really just is my gut check/general thought on the bit I bolded in particular, but imo if the writer isn't nailing their voices, I wouldn't assume getting someone younger would solve that problem. The whole point of being a writer is inhabiting other people's shoes, I don't think you need to be a specific age to have that skill. I do think you either have some voices or you don't, and some people just write young people poorly. I'd have a hard time saying specifically that a younger writer would be an immediately better option though. I mean Joe Hill is 44 right? L&K started coming out in 2008 I believe. Dude was already in his mid 30s, and finished in his 40s. The book has a lot going on in it, but it's effectively a coming of age story for the Locke children, who rather from Teenagers, to younger, and it's fantastic.
So anyway, I totally get that a writer can become out of touch, but just a thought about the idea that the book would be inherently better from a younger writer. Age might inform the tools the writer has at his/her disposal both ways, and I think you could be just as likely to find an under 35 who also fails the task, as an over 35 who would succeed (and vice versa etc etc). Not really disagreeing with you at all then, but more just a jump off point for a further thought
This is totally fair. The way that I think of it is that it's like white people writing for minority characters. Can they do it? Sure. But when the whole story is about what it's like to be a minority, it would be better and more specific if an actual minority was writing it.
Can full grown people write for teenagers well? Of course, they can. But considering that this book is about what it's like to be a teen hero, I think (correctly or not) that it would be better to get someone who has more recent experience being young, especially when the book is trying so hard to be current.
It's obviously more important that POC get opportunities than generic "young people" but the analogy made sense.
(Waid's writing works for me on Archie, but I think that's because the Archie Universe is much more displaced in time.)
Also in my /r/comicbooks argument it's become clear that they actually just hate Thor being unworthy because they hate that Thor is a woman now.
I mean, that was always clear, but they've stopped hiding it.
That worked for the Spawn movie.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Are we sure that's not Iron Fist footage
Could be, but it's on the Defenders account with the Defenders promo iconography.
Avengers #1
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Wonder Woman is doing a lot of action poses. Jim Lee would be proud.
echoshifting
Banned
Too much slow mo, god, stop
Very pretty tho
I hate her theme so much
Will watch at home someday
Very pretty tho
I hate her theme so much
Will watch at home someday
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Haha, I definitely see where you're coming from man, and I do also agree that you have to give people most suited to the job the opportunity, oppose to just *the name* in all circumstances. That's how Marvel got themselves where they are with CWII. What makes a person right for a given job is super hard to quantify though, and honestly varies in every given circumstances imo. That's why I definitely wanted to say I wasn't disagreeing with you, because in that specific example I think there's a high chance you are correct (even though I can't say for sure).
I do think I err a little more towards writing is an art though; some people can do it, some can't. I agree with what you say but at the same time think it's a bit bigger than an age, a gender, a social upbringing, an ethnicity and maybe even beyond us a little as something that can truly be nailed down. Although those things can definitely contribute or detract form a writer's tools, depending on the job at hand. Writing is a contradiction in my mind haha there is every reason and no reason why a given writer can write something to me sometimes and not other things.
Future Foundation
Member
He'd love that twisty leap over the fence.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Obvious WW movie prediction:
Steve is totally gonna die.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Well obviously
but captain america style, as an old man, while she's young
this looks wack
this looks wack
We stopped doing these.
Its Iron Fist Footage by the way
Iron Fist Foot.
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I didn't know until someone pointed it out that the TMNT were made from the sludge that blinded Daredevil and that the series is a riff on it. Trained by Stick become trained by Splinter, the Hand become the Foot Clan, etc.
echoshifting
Banned
I'm sure you will be able to carry on feeling like that every time an issue of Motor Crush comes out.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Sometimes it was her mother who fought in WWI sometimes it was Diana and sometimes WW didn't exist until modern day. Another origin is Steve's mother crash landed on the island and she was pregnant with him at the time. The Amazons sent her back and as a present Steve's mother gave the queen the American flag which would be sewn onto WW outfit. The Queen was so inspired by her pregnancy that she wanted a child herself.
echoshifting
Banned
They could do just about anything with her origin and nobody would be the wiser. There aren't a lot of fundamentals to WW's origin other than she is an Amazon princess from Themiscyra who travels to the "world of man." That's it. Very few people would be bothered if that's as faithful as it gets. Her power set is far more important to the audience.
unworthy thor. thought it was better than avengers imo.
yea man. I was told this earlier this year and was in pure shock. The crazy thing is I doubt many would catch it on their own.
I'm sure it was more obvious when TMNT first started in the 80s.
echoshifting
Banned
That's a good cover. That's how you arrange characters at different distance points without the perspective going to shit. Man Diana looks awesome there.
Is Batman looming in the background his thing for team books now?
Is Batman looming in the background his thing for team books now?
Crotch, crotches everywhere.
echoshifting
Banned
Kooky Quartet #1. Hype.
Renew Your Vows #1. Semi-hype.
Invincible Iron RiRi #1: MEGA hype
World of Wakanda #1: let-me-put-on-my-thinking-cap hype
Looks pretty good to me! I like that there are a couple of books next week for people who aren't terribly enthusiastic about where the 616 is right now.
RepairmanJack
Member
LOL
The ones I am reading no matter what. I noticed a lot of the ANAD are doing jumping on points this month. I am very tempted on Renew your vows. very, but I haven't read a spidey series since Superior.
Black Panther World of Wakanda #1 -
Captain America Steve Rogers #7
Invincible Iron Man #1
Power Man and Iron Fist
WadiumArcadium
Member
I wish they were.
This is what brings on Kevin Costner gifs.
echoshifting
Banned
You guys know you're throwing rocks at a yellow jacket hive right
I say thee nay!
Between Narez bltant trolling with DC movies and monkey with Trump this thread has become a parody of itself
BrightLightLava
Unconfirmed Member
I'm glad you enjoyed them ElNarez.
But I'm on team they were bad-to-acceptable.
But I'm on team they were bad-to-acceptable.
They put the important character in the front.
Clay Mann's Wonder Woman is amazing. I hope he jumps on WW with Rucka.
Suicide Squad had a great movie buried in there somewhere but it was killed by people fighting over the edit. I'm willing to give Ayer another shot with the sequel though.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
I wanna watch The Fifth Element with you for some reason.