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[Brianimaniac]

Can we at least agree that Edmondson's Punisher read like some Conservative's wet dream?

Never read it. I've only read the first six or so issues of his Black Widow run. I only buy the issues when they go on sale because I'm only buying them for the Noto art.

 

[PsychBat!]

Never read it. I've only read the first six or so issues of his Black Widow run. I only buy the issues when they go on sale because I'm only buying them for the Noto art.

I'd probably only advise to read the last two issues. That's enough to give you more than an idea of what that run was like.

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

And we get to the little problem where people ignore serious situations such as these whenever we have plenty of people who can speak out, but can't because of the industry their in and the shitty habits they harbor. Usually because they have the power to keep people silent and cast enough doubt in others to ignore it and let this shit continue. And this is not a new situation in the comics industry, either.

Come the hell on.



Why do I bother, sometimes.

I don't think it's too crazy to give pause before we just advocate go after people's careers. I don't know what is true because all I hear is vague notions of things that might be happening. Like for some they read this and immediately believe it and go to the boycott play. Is there any instance where you didn't believe a bad rumor of one of these creators you read? I see you go to the defense of the vague allocations everytime. Do you think they're batting 1000?

 

[Messi]

I'd probably only advise to read the last two issues. That's enough to give you more than an idea of what that run was like.

I enjoyed it except for the fact that nat is always miserable.

 

[Hagi]

I enjoyed it except for the fact that nat is always miserable.

yeah his Widow run was good if a bit morose

 

[PsychBat!]

I enjoyed it except for the fact that nat is always miserable.

Oh I meant the Punisher run. I want to read his Black Widow run.

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

Oh I meant the Punisher run. I want to read his Black Widow run.

I found it dull. Just like all his writing. He writes the least exciting action ever. It's impressive in a way. Even when what is happening should be really cool it just isn't. But great art so there's that.

 

[Hagi]

Noto makes that book so yeah there is that.

 

[Zombine]

I really like Edmonson's Punisher.

 

[ReAxion]

I enjoyed it except for the fact that nat is always miserable.

Yes. But also,

Spoiler

meow.

 

[Hagi]

I really like Edmonson's Punisher.

I always suspected you were Donald Trump, Americas future commander in chief

 

[Messi]

Yes. But also,

Spoiler

meow.

Yep. That bothered me.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

Did Lobdell do somethin?

*Checks past posts*

Still clean. Got me worried for a sec.

 

[Zombine]

I always suspected you were Donald Trump Americas future commander in chief

Who wants to be on the losing team with a bunch of losers? We should build a wall around them and make them pay for the bill.

I am very pro military though, my cousin (who is like my brother) is in special forces.

 

[MuddyDonut]

OUTRAGE I SAY

M

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D

 

[Hagi]

Who wants to be on the losing team with a bunch of losers? We should build a wall around them and make them pay for the bill.

I am very pro military though, my cousin (who is like my brother) is in special forces.

You type a lot but all I read is CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA

 

[my name is ed]

I don't think it's too crazy to give pause before we just advocate go after people's careers. I don't know what is true because all I hear is vague notions of things that might be happening. Like for some they read this and immediately believe it and go to the boycott play. Is there any instance where you didn't believe a bad rumor of one of these creators you read? I see you go to the defense of the vague allocations everytime. Do you think they're batting 1000?

Iirc accusations of rape turn out false in maybe 5% of cases.

Not sure about sexual harassment or sexual assault that's not rape but in accusation of rape it would be .950

So really not an issue in my estimation

 

[Poodlestrike]

I really like Edmonson's Punisher.

This jives with the Millar fixation.

I believe it.

 

[Brianimaniac]

Iirc accusations of rape turn out false in maybe 5% of cases.

Not sure about sexual harassment or sexual assault that's not rape but in accusation of rape it would be .950

So really not an issue in my estimation

How did rape get into the conversation? That's a pretty big leap from "non-specific harrassment" to "rape".

This is why it's bad to talk too much about these things without actually knowing what we're talking about.

 

[Poodlestrike]

This is your semi-regular reminder to read Atomic Robo.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

This is your semi-regular reminder to read Atomic Robo.

Poorly veiled shilling, 1/10

 

[Zombine]

This jives with the Millar fixation.

I believe it.

Can't a guy like a comic where

Spoiler

a tied up woman has her face exploded by a mental bullet but it turns out that she used her mental powers to make the assassin think it was her but he was really shooting the creepy butler?

This is what comics mean to me.

 

[Hagi]

Poorly veiled shilling, 1/10

brought to you by the master shiller himself

Ninjak is cool

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

brought to you by the master shiller himself

Ninjak is cool

Fuck yeah he is

 

[BKatastrophe]

DeMatteis ruined Justice League Dark.

Damn you DeMatteis! Damn you!

Lemire come back! COME BACK!

 

[Nudull]

How did rape get into the conversation? That's a pretty big leap from "non-specific harrassment" to "rape".

This is why it's bad to talk too much about these things without actually knowing what we're talking about.

You don't exactly hear people calling someone a predator, repeatedly, unless they did something.

 

[Poodlestrike]

Poorly veiled shilling, 1/10

Nothing veiled about it.

Read Atomic Robo, it's better than Valiant.

Spoiler

This is where you thought I'd say something like "not that that's saying much."

You don't exactly hear people calling someone a predator, repeatedly, unless they did something.

There's a lot wrong with this statement.

 

[Zombine]

You don't exactly hear people calling someone a predator, repeatedly, unless they did something.

I call people predators when they turn on their cloak and kill multiple soldiers in the jungle.

 

[Brianimaniac]

You don't exactly hear people calling someone a predator, repeatedly, unless they did something.

I hear people on the internet saying all kinds of stuff.

I'm never going to agree that it's okay to assume that someone is a rapist when no one has even made that specific claim.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Nothing veiled about it.

Read Atomic Robo, it's better than Valiant.

Spoiler

This is where you thought I'd say something like "not that that's saying much."

Son, don't start things with forces you don't fully comprehend.

 

[Messi]

You don't exactly hear people calling someone a predator, repeatedly, unless they did something.

You don't think there is anything wrong with this statement?

 

[my name is ed]

How did rape get into the conversation? That's a pretty big leap from "non-specific harrassment" to "rape".

This is why it's bad to talk too much about these things without actually knowing what we're talking about.

Same category of action

accusations of sexual assault and harassment are very often met with the same amount of disbelief as accusations of rape. It was only meant to bring a comparison into the discussion.

unless you dont believe rape, sexual assault and sexual harassment have much to do with each other

 

[Poodlestrike]

Son, don't start things with forces you don't fully comprehend.

Lunchpod, I eat shills like you for breakfast.

I AM THE ALPHA SHILL.

Same category of action

accusations of sexual assault and harassment are very often met with the same amount of disbelief as accusations of rape. It was only meant to bring a comparison into the discussion.

unless you dont believe rape, sexual assault and sexual harassment have much to do with each other

I mean... sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. Rape is founded on a need for control, rather than a desire for sexual gratification. Sometimes, harassment really is just some loser getting his (or her) disgusting kicks. Even if we do assume the same root impulse, which isn't a stretch at all I'll grant, he lowered severity and potency makes treating them identically problematic. I agree that we should be careful about disbelief, but the uphill battle is a part of the justice system, period.

 

[Nudull]

You don't think there is anything wrong with this statement?

I mean in the context of people making accounts on a person accused of sexual harassment or assault and having those same people all come to the same conclusion (like what's happened before and what's happening now). That should go without saying.

 

[Boogiepop]

This is your semi-regular reminder to read Atomic Robo.

Have those new editions from the Kickstarter or whatever that was about started to come out yet?

 

[Brianimaniac]

Same category of action

accusations of sexual assault and harassment are very often met with the same amount of disbelief as accusations of rape. It was only meant to bring a comparison into the discussion.

unless you dont believe rape, sexual assault and sexual harassment have much to do with each other

I think there's a world of difference between some of the wide variety of things that could accurately be described as sexual harrassment and rape.

That's all I care to discuss it until there's something specific to discuss. There's no sense in spending an hour debating generalities that may not have anything to do with the specifics of this real-life situation that none of us know anything about.

 

[Tyrant Rave]

Did Lobdell do somethin?

*Checks past posts*

Still clean. Got me worried for a sec.

He wrote Red Hood and the Outlaws

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Lunchpod, I eat shills like you for breakfast.

I AM THE ALPHA SHILL.

 

[Poodlestrike]

Have those new editions from the Kickstarter or whatever that was about started to come out yet?

Not yet. But if you click the picture, you get taken to the website where you can read the whole series for exactly no money!

He wrote Red Hood and the Outlaws

Yes, but only the good bits.

 

[Boogiepop]

Not yet. But if you click the picture, you get taken to the website where you can read the whole series for exactly no money!

Yes, but you see, I'm a crazy person so at least for right now I'm thinking I want to wait and spend money on physical copies instead...

 

[Poodlestrike]

Yes, but you see, I'm a crazy person so at least for right now I'm thinking I want to wait and spend money on physical copies instead...

That is pretty crazy.

But so long as you read Robo, it's all good.

 

[Freezasaurus]

I got last week's IST order in today. Just the Last Days of American Crime HC and the Mad Max Fury Road Inspired Artists hardcover. LDoAC is an OHC, even taller than the standard Image Dlx HC. And it's full of glorious Greg Tocchini art. The Fury Road artbook is gorgeous too. Even despite my best Google Image Search efforts, there were a lot of pieces in the book I had yet to see.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

DeMatteis ruined Justice League Dark.

Damn you DeMatteis! Damn you!

Lemire come back! COME BACK!

"I got X-Men........adios."

He wrote Red Hood and the Outlaws

Like I said, still clean. >

 

[anaron]

I found it dull. Just like all his writing. He writes the least exciting action ever. It's impressive in a way. Even when what is happening should be really cool it just isn't. But great art so there's that.

pretty much. every issue was the same

 

[anaron]

Also: all around good person and comicsalliance editor on the subject

https://twitter.com/gimpnelly/status/641359802115846144

oh wow, good stuff. hope it goes smoothly

thanks for sharing!

 

[Owzers]

It's possible that the Lois Bombshell statue is in fact terrifying.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

It's possible that the Lois Bombshell statue is in fact terrifying.

$125 terrifying?

 

[Messi]

Wierdworld #2-#3: Del Mundo da god

 

[Freezasaurus]

It's possible that the Lois Bombshell statue is in fact terrifying.

Her mouth certainly isn't the gaping abyss that is the mouth of Bombshell Wonder Woman.

 

[Owzers]

$125 terrifying?

$94 at Amazon, that terrified discount. I wonder if anyone returned it because they were afraid to sleep at night with it in the house.